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  • lcscanada
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 03-17-11
    • 503

    #1
    GF wants me to quit "gambling" because her uncle lost everything at blackjack
    2 years I have survived under the cover of my own "business".

    I have been working the gambling thing slowly into her as she is super Christian/anti gambling.

    She thinks I still design web sites, which i used to, but stopped a long time ago.

    I tell her i play poker and bet on some sports games time to time. Money has never been an issue with us,
    as I pay most of the time, have my own house/car, etc... she rents.

    Anyways she told me today her uncle lost 20k of her aunt/uncles saving fund. He confessed he lost it
    all to blackjack. She told me I have to stop gambling if we were to ever progress into marriage.
    I tried explaining EV, and using examples of how stock brokers are gamblers, they just wear a suit, and why bj and table games are -EV. I showed her books, mathematics, etc... and that i made a lot of money gambling smart, but she just is to narrow minded and won't ever accept it.

    I have been just lucky for a long time, and i will lose it all "like her uncle in blackjack". So what the hell do I do?
    She's a great girl, just too narrow minded and won't ever accept it. I could hide it i guess, but eventually
    I think she would find out if i got audited or when we do our taxes. I told her I won't because I make $$$ doing it and she gave me an ultimatum in not so direct terms that she "can't marry a gambler" I have to get a "real job".

    I told her to google EV and to educate herself, and I left. She works in a typical 9-5 office job editing articles for peanuts. She spends 2 hours a day in traffic and gets up at 7am.

    I really believe she'd never accept it, and I don't really want to get rid of her. I've been with a lot of women and she'd be a great wife/mother, is in great shape, good looking, kind, etc... so i don't know if i'd want to let her go but quiting gambling is not an option. Any ideas on what to do her? Thanks.
  • mrmarket
    SBR MVP
    • 01-26-10
    • 4953

    #2
    But how much did you lose?
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    • mrmarket
      SBR MVP
      • 01-26-10
      • 4953

      #3
      Seriously though the only things that are going to work are:

      a) Quit Gambling.
      b) Set aside a specific budget for gambling that you can never add to.
      c) Find yourself a tolerant gambling girl.

      Education does not trump Religeon.
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      • Bluehorseshoe
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 07-13-06
        • 14998

        #4
        Explained to her that her Uncle never had a "system".
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        • zam77
          SBR MVP
          • 11-03-10
          • 3586

          #5
          lose her or quit gambling... that simple.

          plenty of fish in the sea if you ask me, although you might want to find one that accepts gambling but also expects you to have a "real" job.
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          • underthe total
            Restricted User
            • 05-29-10
            • 1487

            #6
            Originally posted by lcscanada
            2 years I have survived under the cover of my own "business". I have been working the gambling thing slowly into her as she is super Christian/anti gambling. She thinks I still design web sites, which i used to, but stopped a long time ago. I tell her i play poker and bet on some sports games time to time. Money has never been an issue with us, as I pay most of the time, have my own house/car, etc... she rents. Anyways she told me today her uncle lost 20k of her aunt/uncles saving fund. He confessed he lost it all to blackjack. She told me I have to stop gambling if we were to ever progress into marriage. I tried explaining EV, and using examples of how stock brokers are gamblers, they just wear a suit, and why bj and table games are -EV. I showed her books, mathematics, etc... and that i made a lot of money gambling smart, but she just is to narrow minded and won't ever accept it. I have been just lucky for a long time, and i will lose it all "like her uncle in blackjack". So what the hell do I do? She's a great girl, just too narrow minded and won't ever accept it. I could hide it i guess, but eventually I think she would find out if i got audited or when we do our taxes. I told her I won't because I make $$$ doing it and she gave me an ultimatum in not so direct terms that she "can't marry a gambler" I have to get a "real job". I told her to google EV and to educate herself, and I left. She works in a typical 9-5 office job editing articles for peanuts. She spends 2 hours a day in traffic and gets up at 7am. I really believe she'd never accept it, and I don't really want to get rid of her. I've been with a lot of women and she'd be a great wife/mother, is in great shape, good looking, kind, etc... so i don't know if i'd want to let her go but quiting gambling is not an option. Any ideas on what to do her? Thanks.
            Give up trying to explain it to her, tell her that she will just have to understand that it is what you do for a living and if you ever get into trouble with money you will get a job.

            if you have savings and she sees that it should be enough, or you might just have to move on.

            its also good to give them a schedule of when you will be on the computer so they know what to expect , and stick to it.
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            • Jordan23
              SBR MVP
              • 04-26-10
              • 1227

              #7
              And this is why I'm single....
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              • lcscanada
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 03-17-11
                • 503

                #8
                Originally posted by underthe total

                Give up trying to explain it to her, tell her that she will just have to understand that it is what you do for a living and if you ever get into trouble with money you will get a job.

                if you have savings and she sees that it should be enough, or you might just have to move on.

                its also good to give them a schedule of when you will be on the computer so they know what to expect , and stick to it.
                That's just it. I treat it like a business. Have a home office for it. File records. Put 25% down on my house cause of it, car is paid for,
                buy her s^$% but now her uncle screws up so it's a problem?

                Getting rid of her and dating again does not solve the problem. What girl is going to give you a second date when you tell her you gamble on sports for a living. She's gonna remember every degen story she ever heard and so i will have to bring it up later too. I don't think 95% of women would accept this as a job.

                Really tricky spot. I need a jap robot sex doll or something, but they don't make dinner (yet) so i don't know...
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                • Tackleberry
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 12-01-10
                  • 441

                  #9
                  If she is really the girl you want to marry what I would do is give her my full finiancial picture showing her every penny. Give her all the raw numbers. Forget about trying to explain EV, I've had to many conversations like that, many people have the idea that it is impossible to make money gambling and that all gamblers who think they are winners are just delusional. It's doesn't help that many losing gamblers are indeed delusional degenerates. Show her all of your transactions and let the numbers do the talking.

                  I would also ask myself why I don't want to quit. Is it solely because of the money? Or is it because it is something I truly enjoy and derive great satisfaction from and is a big part of the life I want to live? If it's just the money I would consider quiting (would also have to consider how much money and how great this broad is), someone who has the ability to make a living at sports betting also has the abilities to succeed professionally in many other domains. If it was because of the life satisfaction etc. I would never consider quitting something like that for a woman, ever.
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                  • Yi
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 03-19-09
                    • 646

                    #10
                    The best solution is to tell her, you want to compromise for her but it's hard to quit cold turkey. Ask her if she would accept a "Stop Loss" where if you lose xxx amount then you would quit for good. If you win then you can continue and some of the profit will go towards a future vacation.
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                    • underthe total
                      Restricted User
                      • 05-29-10
                      • 1487

                      #11
                      you are fighting a losing battle my friend, they are out there and they dont care how you make it.
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                      • Jimmy0607
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 04-09-09
                        • 7785

                        #12
                        So you are a professional gambler?
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                        • illfuuptn
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-17-10
                          • 1860

                          #13
                          Tell her you'll make 100k in the next 365 days or you'll quit forever. Then do it. Easy.
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                          • Congruency
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 04-12-10
                            • 561

                            #14
                            Originally posted by mrmarket
                            But how much did you lose?
                            so good as the 1st reply
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                            • DiggityDaggityDo
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 11-30-08
                              • 81450

                              #15
                              I really do not see what the porblem is here. You erither have to make her understand that you are going to lose money from paycheck to paycheck and she has to deal with it, or you dump her ass and live on your own or find a new girl that is OK with you loseing money here and there. Simple as that, bro.

                              Nobody wins when gambling, and the girl needs to understand that. Yes it is nice when the $5000 win comes in, but she needs to understand that multiple $3000 loses are inbetween those wins.

                              Fukk her! ??

                              Do your thing, bro.
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                              • Ace_of_Spades
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 10-14-09
                                • 13518

                                #16
                                Why people tell other they gamble is beyond me. Don't tell anyone.
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                                • DiggityDaggityDo
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 11-30-08
                                  • 81450

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Ace_of_Spades
                                  Why people tell other they gamble is beyond me. Don't tell anyone.
                                  Well, it's hard not to when people share household bills like this guy does. It's the only reason I can see that she would know about it.
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                                  • D3 Mighty Ducks
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 12-17-09
                                    • 11939

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Ace_of_Spades
                                    Why people tell other they gamble is beyond me. Don't tell anyone.
                                    Its his girlfriend you idiot obviously he would tell her.
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                                    • Ace_of_Spades
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 10-14-09
                                      • 13518

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by D3 Mighty Ducks
                                      Its his girlfriend you idiot obviously he would tell her.
                                      Ok, big deal, still wouldn't tell her for so many reasons.
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                                      • Ace_of_Spades
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 10-14-09
                                        • 13518

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                                        Well, it's hard not to when people share household bills like this guy does. It's the only reason I can see that she would know about it.
                                        Thats a problem then.
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                                        • nyed1010
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 12-05-10
                                          • 1569

                                          #21
                                          listen to her if she's hot, if she's anything below an 8.5, then tell her that her uncle is a ******* retard for risking money he couldn't afford to lose and then tell her to go **** off.
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                                          • D3 Mighty Ducks
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 12-17-09
                                            • 11939

                                            #22
                                            As for your problem I don't understand how anyone could be gambling for a "job", its just to much of a gamble. I know there are tons and tons of strategies out there and you could win a fair share from gambling but make it your first income and your everyday job doesn't make much sense to me, a gamble, never mind your girlfriend. I completely understand where she is coming from when she doesn't want you doing this as your first income. And by all means I am not telling you to quit if you've been successful at it. Your in a hole man and thats all there is to it. I'm married, with 1 year old boy and my wife knows I do this only and I mean only as a hobby. I follow sports and I enjoy throwing down some cash on it time and time. Everyone enjoys to do something and I enjoy this. I'm 31 and when my father moved here from Europe he had the smarts to open his own construction company that was very successful over his years. He passed away just over 10 years ago and when he passed the company became mine and my brother. We weren't the brightest of people and knew that the value of the company was at its highest when we first got our hands on it and decided to sell it for some nice coin in 2002. All that aside my family is pretty well off with our financials so that may be a huge reason why my wife is so accepting of it. Anyways, my point is if your not going to quit gambling anytime soon than she will most likely not accept you or take your relationship any farther with a income like yours which in her eyes is a "gamble". Make the right decision my friend or you'll be searching for a new girl in no time.
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                                            • DiggityDaggityDo
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 11-30-08
                                              • 81450

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Ace_of_Spades
                                              Thats a problem then.
                                              Yes. Sounds like a big problem. Unless the girl either swallows, gives up anal sex, or invites her girlfriends to join into three-somes.

                                              No problem then!
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                                              • EmpireMaker
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 06-18-09
                                                • 15580

                                                #24
                                                tell her that her uncle is just a loser
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                                                • Gemoka
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 11-27-08
                                                  • 1648

                                                  #25
                                                  ask her if you quit will she quit spending money on shoes and shit

                                                  go with your guy
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                                                  • EmpireMaker
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 06-18-09
                                                    • 15580

                                                    #26
                                                    show her your yearly income from your gambling and tell her this is how you make your living take it or leave it
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                                                    • compaqDikk
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 10-08-05
                                                      • 5699

                                                      #27
                                                      are you bald sir? thanks
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                                                      • CanuckG
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 12-23-10
                                                        • 21978

                                                        #28
                                                        kick her out
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                                                        • LLXC
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 12-10-06
                                                          • 8972

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by mrmarket
                                                          Seriously though the only things that are going to work are:

                                                          a) Quit Gambling.
                                                          b) Set aside a specific budget for gambling that you can never add to.
                                                          c) Find yourself a tolerant gambling girl.

                                                          Education does not trump Religeon.
                                                          Have to go with C here...
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                                                          • frizzelli
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 08-06-10
                                                            • 8916

                                                            #30
                                                            noone gives a fuk
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                                                            • bradthebloke
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 07-26-09
                                                              • 3175

                                                              #31
                                                              send her my way. after a week with a -EV lover, she'll be running back to ya
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                                                              • Rich Boy
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 02-01-09
                                                                • 9714

                                                                #32
                                                                Go beat the crap out of her uncle.
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                                                                • DeluxeLiner
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 01-29-08
                                                                  • 4132

                                                                  #33
                                                                  If you do end it with her tell her that you concluded that she is -EV.

                                                                  Give us a winner!
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                                                                  • CallMeChip
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 03-23-11
                                                                    • 681

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Give her a pearl necklace, then buy her one. Women love gifts.
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                                                                    • GOIRISH
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 09-25-10
                                                                      • 2072

                                                                      #35
                                                                      If you really want to be with her, tell her that gambling is a hobby of yours. Maybe drop the unit sizes on bets. If gambling is your only income , explain to her that without it you would have nothing. and then expect to get dumped right then and there.
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