Are Totals Going To Be Lower In NFL By Moving Kickoffs To 35?

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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    Are Totals Going To Be Lower In NFL By Moving Kickoffs To 35?
    Scoring should be lower therefore Vegas going to lower game totals a few points?
  • CanuckG
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-23-10
    • 21978

    #2
    Hold on a sec let me ask my vegas insiders I'll get back to you.
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    • StraitShooter
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 07-22-09
      • 10464

      #3
      you guys remember the XFL where the kick off was disputed by two guys running like 10-15 yards and fighting for the ball?..that was cool as shit

      I saw a team lose its star to a separated shoulder trying to get a ball..then teams would use more athletic guys who were not stars

      I remember Don Shula regretted putting in Don McNeal for a punt return he blew up his knee and was never the same

      fuk da nfl
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      • zgates
        Restricted User
        • 03-05-11
        • 176

        #4
        absolutely. teams are going to hold a guy just to boot it thru endzone. i would say the majority of drives now will def be starting on the 20
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        • yisman
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 09-01-08
          • 75682

          #5
          Yes, jj, but it'll be a small adjustment.

          Originally posted by StraitShooter
          you guys remember the XFL where the kick off was disputed by two guys running like 10-15 yards and fighting for the ball?..that was cool as shit

          I saw a team lose its star to a separated shoulder trying to get a ball..then teams would use more athletic guys who were not stars

          I remember Don Shula regretted putting in Don McNeal for a punt return he blew up his knee and was never the same

          fuk da nfl
          I remember watching the XFL on NBC. I liked the league.
          [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
          [/quote]

          [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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          • stealthyburrito
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 05-12-09
            • 21562

            #6
            Originally posted by zgates
            absolutely. teams are going to hold a guy just to boot it thru endzone. i would say the majority of drives now will def be starting on the 20
            stats say touchbacks will jump from 16% to roughly 1/3. large increase but hardly the majority.
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            • zgates
              Restricted User
              • 03-05-11
              • 176

              #7
              Originally posted by stealthyburrito
              stats say touchbacks will jump from 16% to roughly 1/3. large increase but hardly the majority.
              we'll see.

              i think it will be more
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              • pavyracer
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 04-12-07
                • 82806

                #8
                It's a double edged sword. Touchbacks will jump but on side kick recoveries will be closer to the end zone than before.
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                • james4512
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-27-08
                  • 3707

                  #9
                  sharp post JJ been a while
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                  • stealthyburrito
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 05-12-09
                    • 21562

                    #10
                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                    It's a double edged sword. Touchbacks will jump but on side kick recoveries will be closer to the end zone than before.
                    wouldn't it be further away?

                    ball has to reach the 45 rather then the 40 to be a legal kick (if not touched by the receiving team)
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                    • pavyracer
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 04-12-07
                      • 82806

                      #11
                      Originally posted by stealthyburrito
                      wouldn't it be further away?

                      ball has to reach the 45 rather then the 40 to be a legal kick (if not touched by the receiving team)
                      The team that kicks the onside kick is the one who needs to score points. So if the other team recovers it the game will be over regardless of the yard line they recover it.
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                      • stealthyburrito
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 05-12-09
                        • 21562

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                        The team that kicks the onside kick is the one who needs to score points. So if the other team recovers it the game will be over regardless of the yard line they recover it.
                        right my mistake
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                        • MJFtheGenius
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 05-31-07
                          • 7257

                          #13
                          No

                          They will rely on real numbers from the past

                          the linesmakers will adjust tho that is the sure bet
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                          • BigDaddy
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 02-01-06
                            • 8378

                            #14
                            scoring will go up not down if they make it a new rule
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                            • zgates
                              Restricted User
                              • 03-05-11
                              • 176

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BigDaddy
                              scoring will go up not down if they make it a new rule
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                              • Maverick11
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-21-10
                                • 1109

                                #16
                                How will scoring go up? They still get the ball at the 20 on touchbacks. Unless I'm missing something here.
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                                • bradnowell
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 07-31-10
                                  • 493

                                  #17
                                  hester is fvcking pissed!!!!!!!!!
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                                  • C-Gold
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 09-04-10
                                    • 6808

                                    #18
                                    Of course the totals will go down. The average fan has NO IDEA how important field position is and how important it is to how a game plays out. Field position is HUGE.

                                    The team that will benefit the most is the Giants. If this rule was implemented last year they might have won 2 more games. Their kickoffs would routinely be to the 10 yardline and with slow backup linebackers the other teams would start games at the 35 yard line regularly. There's a big difference to starting a drive at the 20 and starting at the 35 or better.
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                                    • Hoja Verdes
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 08-23-06
                                      • 1403

                                      #19
                                      Janikowski and kickers like him just got some nice job security.
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                                      • Rich Boy
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 02-01-09
                                        • 9714

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Maverick11
                                        How will scoring go up? They still get the ball at the 20 on touchbacks. Unless I'm missing something here.
                                        You are missing something...
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                                        • ttwarrior1
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 06-23-09
                                          • 28454

                                          #21
                                          theres not that many kick return td's anyway, actually there could be more punt return td's now because of the hedge rules.

                                          they get the ballon the 25 on touchbacks, not 20 now
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                                          • ttwarrior1
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 06-23-09
                                            • 28454

                                            #22
                                            Guess how many kick return td's hester had last year?/

                                            Thats right , 0000000000000000000
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                                            • ebbearsfb1
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 12-07-08
                                              • 18815

                                              #23
                                              no they still get the ball on the 20 that rule wasnt change..


                                              i could see teams doing more squid kicks that die around 5 to 15 yard line making them return it, and still keeping out of good returns hands...


                                              hester, brad smith, bunch of other dudes and special teams junkies will be out of the league sooner than later
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                                              • illfuuptn
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 03-17-10
                                                • 1860

                                                #24
                                                The Packer's CAN'T lose now. They always started drives from their own 10 last year anyway and big dik A-Rodg got them 7 anyway. And their defensive ST always managed to let their opponents start drives from their own 45...and the defense still rocked their opponents' cocks! Game over. B2B SB champs.
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                                                • Jimmy0607
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 04-09-09
                                                  • 7785

                                                  #25
                                                  I believe so
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                                                  • CaptainPrice
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 10-29-09
                                                    • 1064

                                                    #26
                                                    nope
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                                                    • GunShard
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 03-05-10
                                                      • 10031

                                                      #27
                                                      I'm not sure.
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                                                      • Mr. Jones
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 09-02-05
                                                        • 942

                                                        #28
                                                        Will not significantly change things.
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                                                        • McBa1n
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-02-06
                                                          • 2642

                                                          #29
                                                          totals will be impacted only just. I'd doubt a point of difference, on average, per game.
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                                                          • AlphaOmega
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 12-31-08
                                                            • 1146

                                                            #30
                                                            I doubt anything will change Vegas will adapt and lose just enough to keep us around only to take it all back and some
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                                                            • Dark Horse
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 12-14-05
                                                              • 13764

                                                              #31
                                                              It will change the early score props.

                                                              It makes no difference for the runner who successfully breaks through the defense. The five yards is basically added on to the end of his run, when he's already in the clear. Will there be fewer of those? Yes.
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                                                              • beerman2619
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 12-24-09
                                                                • 7752

                                                                #32
                                                                No actually i heard the same thing today. Heard the ball would be spotted at the 25 if this kickoff change goes into effect.
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                                                                • jjgold
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                                  • 388179

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Thanks men

                                                                  I say lower, the big plays will be gone now in NFL
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                                                                  • ebbearsfb1
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 12-07-08
                                                                    • 18815

                                                                    #34
                                                                    No the kick off being moved from the 30 to. 35 got voted yes. The touchback got voted no
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                                                                    • stevenash
                                                                      Moderator
                                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                                      • 65557

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by ttwarrior1

                                                                      they get the ballon the 25 on touchbacks, not 20 now
                                                                      I read this also.
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