could Villanova miss the ncaa tournament?

[milwaukee mike]

from top 10 to missing the ncaa tournament in a couple weeks, don't laugh it's possible.
nova is a dog tonight at notre dame, and will be a bigger dog in their last game at pitt.

so let's say they lose both, go 9-9 in the conference and lose the 1st game in the big east tournament.

if i were picking teams it might be tempting to leave the 11th team from the big east out with a .500 conference record and 5 straight losses.

i think their body of work will definitely be more than good enough even if they lose out, but who knows if these guys on the selection committee are going to make a stand and limit the big east to 10 teams in. and if west virginia, marquette, cincinnati each win a couple more games then who knows?

[hubie69]

tough call, and while you make a case for it, I just don't see 'Nova missing the tournament

[rm18]

I don't think so only chance maybe if they lose out as well as injuries

[BIGDAY]

I think they get pounded tonight.

[milwaukee mike]

i don't see them missing the tourney either, even if they lose out.
but the thought just crossed my mind that it would be crazy but could possibly happen

you really think so big day?
i have no opinion on this game, too close to call with notre dame right around where they belong -5 imho

[BIGDAY]

I teased the line early with KState.
So I have 2 Units on ND -.5 and KState +13.

We'll see. I just think it can get away from Nova in a hurry tonight as I've loved ND at home all year.

Best of luck.

[SamsNCharge99]

Nova will make the tourney

[VegasInsider]

Nova's in the tourny and I think hang tough tonight vs. ND.

[gafl]

Hard to leave out a Big East team with 21 wins. One of the things the committee looks at though is how you finish the season. After the win at Syracuse ,which was over a month ago, the only good win was at home against WV. Nova should make sure and win one of the next 3 games.

[james4512]

nova can lose the first day of the tourny to south florida and still be better than an 8 seed. MICHIGAN st is currently in the tourny no way nova misses out

[philswin]

Not impossible but they will probably make the tourney even if they lose out, they have enough quality wins, Doubtful they lose the first round in the Big East tourney,because it would probably be against Depaul or S Florida.

[biggamerife21]

We are a mess right now, Antonio Pena is deadweight who loves the 18 footer and hits it at about 10 percent. Cheeks comes off the bench shooting like he's Jamal Crawford and can't hit nothing. James Bell is a great player who scored 21 the only game he has got time. Fisher and Wayns have got to step up if were making any kind of run.

[milwaukee mike]

nova can lose the first day of the tourny to south florida and still be better than an 8 seed. MICHIGAN st is currently in the tourny no way nova misses out

i'm not so sure about this. last year (when only 8 big east teams made it) south florida and seton hall both finished 9-9 in the conference AND won a big east tourney game, had 11 regular season losses, and still didn't make the ncaa tournament. south florida had won the last 3 games going into the big east tourney and had a few quality wins. granted south florida/seton hall didn't have the name recogntion or rpi, both of which are important.

so while i agree they would still probably get in, how can you say they would still be a 7 or higher seed? that means they would either be ranked or just outside (top 28 would be top 7 seeds). no chance of that if they lose 3 more in a row.

[sicky123]

We are a mess right now, Antonio Pena is deadweight who loves the 18 footer and hits it at about 10 percent. Cheeks comes off the bench shooting like he's Jamal Crawford and can't hit nothing. James Bell is a great player who scored 21 the only game he has got time. Fisher and Wayns have got to step up if were making any kind of run.

Cheeks was actually one of the -few- bright spots against St Johns.

[BettingWizard]

literally zero chance they miss the tourney

[Brewers in 7]

They won't miss the tourney, but they went from being a team who looked like they could win it all to now being a one and done team

[milwaukee mike]

literally zero chance they miss the tourney

so then i'm sure you'll be happy to give me a million to one odds?


what if they get hit with recruiting violations? what if they lose by 30 points tonight, 30 points to pitt, and 30 points to south florida, getting 3 of their starters injured in the process?

[BettingWizard]

I will give you all of my points every day from here on after if they miss the tourney

[xxdjstriderxx]

looks like they might lose by 30 tonight


they look awful. a far cry from the team we saw at the beginning of the season.

[hankcream]

If they do make, they would be a 6 six seed at best and most likely be 1 and done.

[james4512]

i'm not so sure about this. last year (when only 8 big east teams made it) south florida and seton hall both finished 9-9 in the conference AND won a big east tourney game, had 11 regular season losses, and still didn't make the ncaa tournament. south florida had won the last 3 games going into the big east tourney and had a few quality wins. granted south florida/seton hall didn't have the name recogntion or rpi, both of which are important.

so while i agree they would still probably get in, how can you say they would still be a 7 or higher seed? that means they would either be ranked or just outside (top 28 would be top 7 seeds). no chance of that if they lose 3 more in a row.

nova already has 21 wins s fla and seton hall both had under 20, i give it about 1% chance they dont make it losing AT ND and AT PITT #7 and #5 teams are not bad losses and no one cares, once fishers hip gets better nova will be good again

[IAMWINNER]

they have no interior offense and you can't rely on one guy (fisher) to carry the team during the tournament.

[BiffTFinancial]

sure, they just have to lose 8 of their next 3 games.

[milwaukee mike]

nova already has 21 wins s fla and seton hall both had under 20, i give it about 1% chance they dont make it losing AT ND and AT PITT #7 and #5 teams are not bad losses and no one cares, once fishers hip gets better nova will be good again

i would give it more like 3% chance, but even a 1% chance is 1% more than a week ago

[milwaukee mike]

I will give you all of my points every day from here on after if they miss the tourney

i'm holding you to this (and i know you can only give 2/day so that's hardly "all" of your points), it's a valid deal since i am giving up consideration for it (1 point)

if you don't agree then please give my point back

[raggman]

they are in the big dance but sure aren't playing well

[beerman2619]

I agree there is no way teams like Nova and Michigan St should be in the big dance. But just by name they will get in. If you go by play and not the name both schools should be in the NIT. Villanova could easily be on a 7 game losing streak barely getting by Depaul in OT and beating Seton Hall by a couple points.

[crustyme]

another classic over reaction thread.

nova is 100% in.

[HR Paperstacks]

These fukin guys couldnt win the NIT.

[milwaukee mike]

overreaction to what?
i posted it before tonight's debacle

villanova is now 2-7 in their last 9 games, with the 2 wins coming against seton hall (by 3) and depaul (by 2)

i am pretty sure there are at least 68 teams playing better basketball than nova right now!

yes they are in but 97%, not 100%. if it is 100% then give me a million to 1 odds

[Jasonal_98]

Villanova will get into the dance, but they have a lot of work to do over the next two weeks if they want to do anything in the postseason.

[gshock1]

This team will get in but they might be a 1 and done team... They seem hopeless

[beach nut]

If they don't finish well in the big east tourny they should be out.

[biggamer3]

Wow that have been awful of late

[Herky]

They shouldn't be in. Playing downright awful. Many smaller schools playing better and would beat them. But the NCAA tourney is a joke anyway.