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  • Extra Innings
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-26-10
    • 15058

    #71
    Originally posted by sharpcat

    This thread has nothing to do with bonuses or rollovers

    What he was referring to was making a few plays in the casino in order to make yourself look like a square.
    Now read this post and get back to me you Nitwit :duh"


    Originally posted by Justin7
    Some bonus whores will use the casino to meet rollover. Many sportsbooks automatically profile a player as an idiot if you use a casino, so that is a plus. If you really want to stick around at a place, blow $50 in the casino.

    Another good idea... stay below half the limit bet. If they take $1k on a game, stay at $450 or less.

    Parlays... Also good. But don't do more than 3 teamers, unless there is a great promo.
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    • sharpcat
      Restricted User
      • 12-19-09
      • 4516

      #72
      Originally posted by Extra Innings
      Now read this post and get back to me you Nitwit :duh"

      Camoflauge and sportsbooks
      Camofluge and sportsbooks refers to attempting to hide the fact that you are a sharp player from a recreational book who is giving you good lines so that you will not get the boot. Unless "camouflage" has some secret meaning that means "Bonus" than this thread has nothing to do with bonuses and rollovers.
      Originally posted by Justin7
      Any card counter knows you can only beat the crap out of a place as long as you are welcome. Acting the act is half the game.
      what do you sharps do when you sign up at a square book for longevity?
      Again this is the first post in the thread and here you can see that Justin refers to card counters and how they only have an edge if they are allowed to play therefore they need to disguise the fact that they are a card counter from the casino to avoid getting the boot.

      Originally posted by Justin7
      Some bonus whores will use the casino to meet rollover. Many sportsbooks automatically profile a player as an idiot if you use a casino, so that is a plus. If you really want to stick around at a place, blow $50 in the casino.

      Another good idea... stay below half the limit bet. If they take $1k on a game, stay at $450 or less.

      Parlays... Also good. But don't do more than 3 teamers, unless there is a great promo.
      If you were sharp enough to catch this you would realize that Justin is suggesting that bonus whores are idiots along with any player dumb enough to play in the casino therefore he is suggesting in order for a sharp to pass himself off as a square maybe dumping a little bit of your winnings in the casino from time to time would help you appear square.

      Justin is a sharp sports gambler I am pretty sure he does not give a shit about bonus whoring and you guys are in the wrong thread if your worried about bonus whoring.

      I hope this is the response you were looking for you dipshit
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      • Extra Innings
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 02-26-10
        • 15058

        #73
        Originally posted by sharpcat


        Camoflauge and sportsbooks
        Camofluge and sportsbooks refers to attempting to hide the fact that you are a sharp player from a recreational book who is giving you good lines so that you will not get the boot. Unless "camouflage" has some secret meaning that means "Bonus" than this thread has nothing to do with bonuses and rollovers.
        Again this is the first post in the thread and here you can see that Justin refers to card counters and how they only have an edge if they are allowed to play therefore they need to disguise the fact that they are a card counter from the casino to avoid getting the boot.



        If you were sharp enough to catch this you would realize that Justin is suggesting that bonus whores are idiots along with any player dumb enough to play in the casino therefore he is suggesting in order for a sharp to pass himself off as a square maybe dumping a little bit of your winnings in the casino from time to time would help you appear square.

        Justin is a sharp sports gambler I am pretty sure he does not give a shit about bonus whoring and you guys are in the wrong thread if your worried about bonus whoring.

        I hope this is the response you were looking for you dipshit
        "Some bonus whores will use the casino to meet rollover." My response was "didn't know you could use the casino to meet a rollover". Clear as day and night and you call yourself Sharp...more like an arrogant Prick who is unwillingly to see the light of day
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        • Justin7
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 07-31-06
          • 8577

          #74
          I wouldn't call them idiots. Bonus whores are just reaching for the lowest-hanging fruit. You can make a lot more, once you figure out how to reach a bit higher.
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          • Extra Innings
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 02-26-10
            • 15058

            #75
            Originally posted by Extra Innings
            "Some bonus whores will use the casino to meet rollover." My response was "didn't know you could use the casino to meet a rollover". Clear as day and night and you call yourself Sharp...more like an arrogant Prick who is unwillingly to see the light of day
            Moreover, there is nothing in his statement suggesting that Justin7 thinks bonus whores are "idiots". If engaging in a +EV strategy to gambling makes me or anyone else an idiot than you probably don't have too many people in your Sharpie Club....at least anyone who makes money.
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            • Shonner
              SBR MVP
              • 09-05-10
              • 1361

              #76
              Forum practically unusable at gametime

              sorry i thought i was creating a thread here, forum crashed...
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              • mathdotcom
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 03-24-08
                • 11689

                #77
                Originally posted by Justin7
                I wouldn't call them idiots. Bonus whores are just reaching for the lowest-hanging fruit. You can make a lot more, once you figure out how to reach a bit higher.
                Some people have short arms and there is nothing they can do about that.
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                • sharpcat
                  Restricted User
                  • 12-19-09
                  • 4516

                  #78
                  Originally posted by Extra Innings
                  Moreover, there is nothing in his statement suggesting that Justin7 thinks bonus whores are "idiots". If engaging in a +EV strategy to gambling makes me or anyone else an idiot than you probably don't have too many people in your Sharpie Club....at least anyone who makes money.
                  I agree that even the sharpest of gamblers should be willing to score a bonus wherever they can hell I even use my SBR points as an extension of my bankroll even with a $100,000 bankroll $50 bucks is money on the table. I was referring to in the eyes of a sportsbook anybody who is playing roulette in the casino is likely not an educated gambler (I guess idiot was a little harsh but I was responding to an attack towards me and was a little on edge).

                  I simply pointed out that this thread was not about bonus whoring and it was uncalled for to come back with drunken 2:30 a.m. name calling.
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                  • Extra Innings
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-26-10
                    • 15058

                    #79
                    Originally posted by sharpcat

                    I agree that even the sharpest of gamblers should be willing to score a bonus wherever they can hell I even use my SBR points as an extension of my bankroll even with a $100,000 bankroll $50 bucks is money on the table. I was referring to in the eyes of a sportsbook anybody who is playing roulette in the casino is likely not an educated gambler (I guess idiot was a little harsh but I was responding to an attack towards me and was a little on edge).

                    I simply pointed out that this thread was not about bonus whoring and it was uncalled for to come back with drunken 2:30 a.m. name calling.
                    It's all in good fun....just watch your emoticon's when your drinking if you could....

                    Good Luck today with your plays
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                    • Mahowny82
                      SBR Hustler
                      • 10-04-10
                      • 80

                      #80
                      Originally posted by rake922
                      Justin7, do books only cut you off if you request the withdrawl?


                      What if you're up 35k in a month, but never attempt a withdrawl?
                      Hi all, new member here. My search for information about sports betting brought me a lot of times to this site, cool site and I think Justin is doing a great job.

                      Somehow the post I quoted never got answered and I am very curious how the books operate. And in addition to the original question I am curious when they start to review your betting patterns. Somebody knows the answer?
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                      • Justin7
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 07-31-06
                        • 8577

                        #81
                        Some review during a withdrawal. Others use a weekly player win/loss statement, and review any player that has a high total win/loss, or a high weekly win/loss. Others will look all big bets, and any player consistently making good bets will get cut. And some use a combination of these.
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                        • LegitBet
                          Restricted User
                          • 05-25-10
                          • 538

                          #82
                          Any else curious why the books don't seem to share data on players much in the way
                          Vegas casinos all subscribe to the same service trying to catch counters and cheats?
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                          • Sawyer
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 06-01-09
                            • 7761

                            #83
                            No need to camouflage if you're dealing with exchanges. (Matchbook, Betfair)
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                            • 2Bdown
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 12-30-09
                              • 484

                              #84
                              Originally posted by Justin7
                              I wouldn't call them idiots. Bonus whores are just reaching for the lowest-hanging fruit. You can make a lot more, once you figure out how to reach a bit higher.
                              Just ordered your book in the SBR store Justin. I want to reach for the sky.
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                              • ZetaPsi808
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 09-18-08
                                • 12119

                                #85
                                wow great thread!
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                                • LegitBet
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 05-25-10
                                  • 538

                                  #86
                                  Hey Justin
                                  Any chance your book will be available as an audio book?
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                                  • wrongturn
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 06-06-06
                                    • 2228

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by mathdotcom
                                    Some people have short arms and there is nothing they can do about that.
                                    J7 is selling an arm-extending product.
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                                    • Fishhead
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 08-11-05
                                      • 40179

                                      #88
                                      Thanks, going to add a couple of these ideas to my arsenal.


                                      MATTY is correct, bonus whoring is still very profitable, and although its the lowest fruit on the tree, it sure is tasty.


                                      Matchbook is hoping with great numbers these days, long live MATCHBOOK
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                                      • rm18
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 09-20-05
                                        • 22291

                                        #89
                                        some books making parlays to get over the limit or distract from heavy action on a side may help, even parlay a straight bet with a -5000 ML so it does not go in as a straight wager for a dime. Throwing in correlated parlays may have some books slower to limit you than picking straight winners but depends.
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                                        • Peregrine Stoop
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 10-23-09
                                          • 869

                                          #90
                                          I unintentionally add camoflauge to my play by being a square in general
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                                          • patswin
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-05-06
                                            • 1794

                                            #91
                                            lots of good stuff in this thread!
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                                            • chilidog
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 04-05-09
                                              • 10305

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by wrongturn

                                              J7 is selling an arm-extending product.
                                              Heh, he should try selling step-stools instead
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                                              • Fishhead
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 08-11-05
                                                • 40179

                                                #93
                                                1. PLAY IN CASINO

                                                2. Move from book to book, giving a shop time to catch their breath

                                                3. Have girlfriend make wagers

                                                4. Be kind and polite on chat, emails, and phone

                                                5. Speak good about them on forums

                                                6. Tip the clerks

                                                7. In some cases, try to lose by scalping/middling

                                                8. Don't get greedy

                                                9. Do not request payout for at least 30 days after making deposit

                                                10. Refer sqaure friends to the sportsbook


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                                                • -105
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 07-20-10
                                                  • 208

                                                  #94
                                                  Sbr will you please delete this thread I am afraid it will affect my income.
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                                                  • BeatTheJerk
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 08-19-07
                                                    • 31794

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by donjuan
                                                    5 Dimes.
                                                    What happen to this f u c k ?
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                                                    • RickySteve
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 01-31-06
                                                      • 3415

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                      1. PLAY IN CASINO

                                                      2. Move from book to book, giving a shop time to catch their breath

                                                      3. Have girlfriend make wagers

                                                      4. Be kind and polite on chat, emails, and phone

                                                      5. Speak good about them on forums

                                                      6. Tip the clerks

                                                      7. In some cases, try to lose by scalping/middling

                                                      8. Don't get greedy

                                                      9. Do not request payout for at least 30 days after making deposit

                                                      10. Refer sqaure friends to the sportsbook

                                                      A remarkably high-quality post. 1 out of 188,567 ain't bad.
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                                                      • RickySteve
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 01-31-06
                                                        • 3415

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                                        What happen to this f u c k ?
                                                        Retired to Vermont to raise llamas and dance like no one is watching.
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                                                        • Ethan
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 02-14-11
                                                          • 375

                                                          #98
                                                          I wish it could be the case
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                                                          • MoneyLineDawg
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 01-01-09
                                                            • 13253

                                                            #99
                                                            How can books catch Arbers and why are they booted? To me, it seems like that each independent book is taking your one fair bet......Can someone help me out here?
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                                                            • chrisharvard01
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 10-24-08
                                                              • 2943

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                                              What happen to this f u c k ?
                                                              was thinking the same thing when I saw his post...
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                                                              • affest
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 08-27-11
                                                                • 172

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by chrisharvard01
                                                                was thinking the same thing when I saw his post...
                                                                What were you thinking about this when you first saw?
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                                                                • chrisharvard01
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 10-24-08
                                                                  • 2943

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by affest
                                                                  What were you thinking about this when you first saw?
                                                                  Sorry pal, guess you didn't read the whole thread

                                                                  like beat the jerk said, what happened to this f_uck?


                                                                  That f_uck we are speaking of is Don Juan. He offended a lot of people with his remarks (not me) from everything from politics to race, to whatever the f_uck you can think of.

                                                                  He seemed to know his shit. Esp. s_hit plays that aren't so much translated in the US. I think he is abroad. The guy didn't have a whole lot of positive s_hit to say but if he tried maybe he could make a contribution.
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                                                                  • Peregrine Stoop
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 10-23-09
                                                                    • 869

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by LegitBet
                                                                    Any else curious why the books don't seem to share data on players much in the way Vegas casinos all subscribe to the same service trying to catch counters and cheats?
                                                                    why would a book that invests the time and money in good control systems front the costs for the many that do not?
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                                                                    • mr.inpak
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 12-13-09
                                                                      • 450

                                                                      #104
                                                                      bet a couple of parlays and you will be fine
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                                                                      • donjuan
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 08-29-07
                                                                        • 3993

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Lol wtf?
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