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  • Mr KLC
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 12-19-07
    • 31097

    #1
    Paying Taxes On Your Winnings
    I was just looking to see from some of the players how they organize themselves when they file a tax return on their winnings. I want to try, and be as organized as possible, so if I get an audit, I'm prepared. Also, when you file taxes on income, do you count the income you received over the year, or do you count the money you received, plus what's sitting in you offshore account. Any info would be great!

    Thanks,
    KLC
  • Mr KLC
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 12-19-07
    • 31097

    #2
    I guess either no one reports their winnings to the IRS, or nobody gets any winnings.
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #3
      Why would you report winnings from unregulated companies ?
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      • Fishhead
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-11-05
        • 40179

        #4
        Originally posted by jjgold
        Why would you report winnings from unregulated companies ?

        Because it's illegal if one doesn't........that's why.
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        • Mr KLC
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 12-19-07
          • 31097

          #5
          Originally posted by jjgold
          Why would you report winnings from unregulated companies ?
          All it takes is one audit, and a couple of mistakes for all hell to break loose. I've always believed to keep the horses in the barn, instead of letting them run out, and having to round them up later. Oh yeah, plus my wife told me to.
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          • do5000
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 06-06-08
            • 853

            #6
            are you living in the USA?
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            • Mr KLC
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 12-19-07
              • 31097

              #7
              Originally posted by do5000
              are you living in the USA?
              Yep.
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              • txmagnolia2
                SBR High Roller
                • 10-01-10
                • 179

                #8
                My winnings play for vacations so no reporting for me.
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                • BrentCrude
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-16-05
                  • 4665

                  #9
                  If you did have a brain fart and paid taxes on your winnings even though most years you lose money gambling and couldn't report that because offshore gambling losses weren't a legitimate deduction,where would your tax dollars go?Rat hole?Sh&t hole?I don't believe in that collectivist talk like us,we,and ours when it comes to much of any part of being a USA citizen but if I were to include myself in saying we,I would say WE as a country are in a sh^t load of deep do do.
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                  • Fishhead
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 08-11-05
                    • 40179

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BrentCrude
                    If you did have a brain fart and paid taxes on your winnings even though most years you lose money gambling and couldn't report that because offshore gambling losses weren't a legitimate deduction,where would your tax dollars go?Rat hole?Sh&t hole?I don't believe in that collectivist talk like us,we,and ours when it comes to much of any part of being a USA citizen but if I were to include myself in saying we,I would say we as a country WE are in a sh^t load of deep do do.
                    Yes, the USA will be toast within a few years in all liklihood.

                    Why I'm not moving out of this country is beyond me.
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                    • WeinketoWarrick
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-30-09
                      • 1698

                      #11
                      I have no intentions of claiming anything.

                      If I get audited I'll just say anything that's been put in my account is offset by lotto ticket and horse track losses. Hard enough to win with the juice, why pay half of what you might get lucky enough to win to the federal gubmint?
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                      • Cabo
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-07-06
                        • 5274

                        #12
                        I think the IRS would like for you to report your gross winnings as income, then take your gross losses as a deduction.
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                        • southpaw74
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 12-21-09
                          • 7104

                          #13
                          Anyone paying taxes on gambling is crazy. They steal enough in "traditional" taxes.
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                          • Mr KLC
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 12-19-07
                            • 31097

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Cabo
                            I think the IRS would like for you to report your gross winnings as income, then take your gross losses as a deduction.
                            I've read that in a couple of articles. From what I understand, its recommended to keep your daily records, and even if the money is still in your book, you have to count it as earned income.
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                            • jjgold
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388179

                              #15
                              They are not usa companies therefore you should never report anything
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                              • unusialsusp5
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-18-10
                                • 4198

                                #16
                                i can't believe anyone would worry about paying taxes on gambling winnings through an offshore book. no one cares and no one could possibly find out. why do it? everyone loses anyway so its moot. the govt. is as crooked as the day is long anyway. you will never be audited for this. it is unproveable and only a fool would actually declare winnings other than horse race winnings which a form was handed to you for a 600.00 win or more.
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                                • Fishhead
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 08-11-05
                                  • 40179

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by unusialsusp5
                                  i can't believe anyone would worry about paying taxes on gambling winnings through an offshore book. no one cares and no one could possibly find out. why do it? everyone loses anyway so its moot. the govt. is as crooked as the day is long anyway. you will never be audited for this. it is unproveable and only a fool would actually declare winnings other than horse race winnings which a form was handed to you for a 600.00 win or more.

                                  So JOHN DOUGH cashes over $100,000 in checks at his bank and he refuses to pay taxes.............good luck to Mr. Dough.


                                  Let me know how that works out for him.
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                                  • FuzzyDunlop
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-15-11
                                    • 2422

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by unusialsusp5
                                    i can't believe anyone would worry about paying taxes on gambling winnings through an offshore book. no one cares and no one could possibly find out. why do it? everyone loses anyway so its moot. the govt. is as crooked as the day is long anyway. you will never be audited for this. it is unproveable and only a fool would actually declare winnings other than horse race winnings which a form was handed to you for a 600.00 win or more.
                                    I've been playing online poker since 2002, betting sports online since 2009 and this opinion could not be more incorrect.
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                                    • Fishhead
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 08-11-05
                                      • 40179

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by FuzzyDunlop
                                      I've been playing online poker since 2002, betting sports online since 2009 and this opinion could not be more incorrect.
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                                      • pico
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 04-05-07
                                        • 27321

                                        #20
                                        you're already breaking the law. why bother to pay taxes
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                                        • falconticket
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-05-10
                                          • 3414

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by pico
                                          you're already breaking the law. why bother to pay taxes
                                          Which law?
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                                          • nyed1010
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 12-05-10
                                            • 1569

                                            #22
                                            , there's only like 2-3 people in player's talk that even have to worry about this. The rest of you degens need to be worrying less about taxes and caring more about how you're going to pay off your gambling debts.
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                                            • Fishhead
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 08-11-05
                                              • 40179

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by pico
                                              you're already breaking the law. why bother to pay taxes
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                                              • PingPong
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 11-10-08
                                                • 988

                                                #24
                                                lol no one here has "winnings"
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                                                • Thunder Gulch
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 08-30-10
                                                  • 996

                                                  #25
                                                  I've had some horse racing scores that I had to report, but if you pick up enough dead tickets to offset them, you can write it off.
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                                                  • Fishhead
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 08-11-05
                                                    • 40179

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Thunder Gulch
                                                    I've had some horse racing scores that I had to report, but if you pick up enough dead tickets to offset them, you can write it off.

                                                    Keep a diary, much easier than picking tickets off the floor.
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                                                    • Yi
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 03-19-09
                                                      • 646

                                                      #27
                                                      Is there a certain threshold where below a certain net amount it's okay to not pay?

                                                      Also anyone have a nice link to a thread on sbr that gives advice on paying tax for online sports gambling?
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                                                      • FuzzyDunlop
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-15-11
                                                        • 2422

                                                        #28
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                                                        • cant call it
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 08-29-10
                                                          • 8817

                                                          #29
                                                          Its illegal to gamble but you want to report it for tax purposes.
                                                          Bend over and lube up buddy.
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                                                          • Mr KLC
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 12-19-07
                                                            • 31097

                                                            #30
                                                            Have you been going by these rules since you started doing on line poker, Fuzzy? If so, have you done this through a tax professional? Have you encountered any audits? Just curious. I normally do my taxes through Turbotax, but I think I might need to do them in person with H&R Block or someone else if I'm fortunate to have the problem of filing gambling income next year.
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                                                            • unusialsusp5
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 04-18-10
                                                              • 4198

                                                              #31
                                                              fuzzy dunlop must feel like the countries biggest fool. voluntarily paying taxes on gambling winnings which are untraceable. there is no way it can be found out unless you tell them by actually reporting it on your income. total idiot.
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                                                              • Fishhead
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 08-11-05
                                                                • 40179

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by unusialsusp5
                                                                fuzzy dunlop must feel like the countries biggest fool. voluntarily paying taxes on gambling winnings which are untraceable. there is no way it can be found out unless you tell them by actually reporting it on your income. total idiot.
                                                                You are 110% wrong........maybe 149%
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                                                                • sharpcat
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 12-19-09
                                                                  • 4516

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by unusialsusp5
                                                                  fuzzy dunlop must feel like the countries biggest fool. voluntarily paying taxes on gambling winnings which are untraceable. there is no way it can be found out unless you tell them by actually reporting it on your income. total idiot.
                                                                  This is a very uneducated argument.

                                                                  The IRS can audit anyone at anytime for any reason dating back 3 years, if they were to audit ones bank account and see $50,000 plus of unanswered for income you will not only owe what you should have paid but also interest , late fees, and penalties with possible criminal prosecution.

                                                                  What the OP is referring to is players who make the equivalent of a salary in winnings, if you are the type of player who considers a big winning year $10,000 I would not be very concerned with this issue.
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                                                                  • Cantstopmenow
                                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                                    • 02-24-11
                                                                    • 21

                                                                    #34
                                                                    If you are betting offshore... keep your money offshore
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                                                                    • Fishhead
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 08-11-05
                                                                      • 40179

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by sharpcat
                                                                      This is a very uneducated argument.

                                                                      The IRS can audit anyone at anytime for any reason dating back 3 years, if they were to audit ones bank account and see $50,000 plus of unanswered for income you will not only owe what you should have paid but also interest , late fees, and penalties with possible criminal prosecution.

                                                                      What the OP is referring to is players who make the equivalent of a salary in winnings, if you are the type of player who considers a big winning year $10,000 I would not be very concerned with this issue.
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