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  • lyon804
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 11-02-09
    • 6526

    #106
    Originally posted by Dark Horse
    The two are related. Mormons are known for their racist view that blacks are inferior. That's why Utah is consistently among the whitest teams in the NBA. Williams is 'light', and so is Devon Harris that is coming in now. My guess is that Williams was becoming a little too 'black' to their liking. It is known he had a run-in with Sloan on the night before the coach resigned.

    Your right. The Jazz don't seem to like "black" players much. Even Carlos Boozer was very light skinned. I told a buddie of mine if Gordon Hayward was still on the board that the Jazz was going to draft him because he was white and they sure did. The Jazz black players are really very "white" as far as appearance and how non-confrontational they seem to be.
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    • LearningTree
      SBR High Roller
      • 08-02-10
      • 216

      #107
      Uh....he actually wanted to go to the Nets?
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      • onetrickpony
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 08-23-10
        • 9434

        #108
        holy shit fuk yeah!!!!!!!!!

        my dick is soo hard and i havent even taken viagra before

        i need to bust a few nuts in the next hour

        utah have fun with fuking no bball iq devin harris, who will never improve
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        • TrapperDapper
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 08-20-10
          • 502

          #109
          Originally posted by lyon804
          Your right. The Jazz don't seem to like "black" players much. Even Carlos Boozer was very light skinned. I told a buddie of mine if Gordon Hayward was still on the board that the Jazz was going to draft him because he was white and they sure did. The Jazz black players are really very "white" as far as appearance and how non-confrontational they seem to be.
          Millsap and Jefferson are black as night.
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          • ROFLcopter
            SBR MVP
            • 06-16-10
            • 4446

            #110
            Good luck trying to get him to stay in Jersey. The Knicks weren't getting D-Will. The package the Nets sent is better than the package the Knicks sent to Denver, and why bother when D-Will and Paul will be free agents soon?
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            • onetrickpony
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 08-23-10
              • 9434

              #111
              Originally posted by TrapperDapper
              Millsap and Jefferson are black as night.
              there fuking darkness, pitch black, dark magic evil looking moutherfukers
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              • jetsjets1028
                SBR MVP
                • 02-10-10
                • 1234

                #112
                jazz are complete mess.. go knicks!!! melo amare and billups poss championship!
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                • lyon804
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 11-02-09
                  • 6526

                  #113
                  Originally posted by TrapperDapper
                  Millsap and Jefferson are black as night.


                  They are dark but look at there character. They are not disruptive players. They are yes men that don't require and entourage. The both of them are simply basketball players. How many black players have you seen that played for Utah getting technical fouls? Not very often because they don't want that kind of player.
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                  • demens
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-22-10
                    • 2785

                    #114
                    even without murphy...they have 55 million in salary....with the new CBA agreement, it becomes almost impossible to aquire the 3rd superstar...same goes for the knicks.
                    Like i said. Continuing to post blatantly wrong information time after time will not change the fact that its wrong and you're clueless. Not only does it appear that you failed your math class (no surprise really since you think you make $1k bets) but you also fail at logic.

                    Nets have 39M on the cap for 2011, I guess you remembered to add Derons salary and forgot to take off the players he was traded for.....ehh nope, not even that makes sense cause it would add up to 52.6. I guess you're just a clueless tool that likes to make shit up.

                    Not that 2011 cap situation even matters since Howard will be a free agent in 2012.
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                    • HoulihansTX
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 02-12-09
                      • 30566

                      #115
                      Originally posted by lyon804
                      Your right. The Jazz don't seem to like "black" players much. Even Carlos Boozer was very light skinned. I told a buddie of mine if Gordon Hayward was still on the board that the Jazz was going to draft him because he was white and they sure did. The Jazz black players are really very "white" as far as appearance and how non-confrontational they seem to be.
                      Neither do the Pacers. They unloaded Troy Murphy, ruining my dream of having an all "White guy" lineup.
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                      • Deep_Rest
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 11-29-10
                        • 841

                        #116
                        Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                        Neither do the Pacers. They unloaded Troy Murphy, ruining my dream of having an all "White guy" lineup.


                        Isn't this guy your franchise player when Granger leaves? I realize most people look dark when Larry Bird is standing next to you, but damn.
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                        • jsmithj88
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-27-08
                          • 3591

                          #117
                          Originally posted by BadBeatBodog
                          Not really extensive analysis. According to 82games.com, Nash is limiting opponents to an eFG% of .462. Pretty good, especially when you compare it to his own number of .565 and Williams' opponent eFG% of .480. For a player who can't shoot, Rondo has an impressive eFG%: .541. In fact, it's higher than Williams at .524. And anyway, what about the other guys I mentioned? No argument that DWill is better than them I guess.
                          stats don't always tell u the whole truth. nash is my favorite PG but hes not a good defensive player and i still would rather have williams over nash. u gonna tell me rondo can shoot cuz he has a high FG%? the dudes FG% is mostly from layups. i bet dwight howard is the best shooter in the NBA, his FG% is over 60%.

                          rose is an mvp candidate, if u wanna call him the best PG, cant really argue
                          same with chris paul, hes been the best the last couple years
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                          • vyomguy
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 12-08-09
                            • 5794

                            #118
                            Originally posted by demens
                            Like i said. Continuing to post blatantly wrong information time after time will not change the fact that its wrong and you're clueless. Not only does it appear that you failed your math class (no surprise really since you think you make $1k bets) but you also fail at logic. Nets have 39M on the cap for 2011, I guess you remembered to add Derons salary and forgot to take off the players he was traded for.....ehh nope, not even that makes sense cause it would add up to 52.6. I guess you're just a clueless tool that likes to make shit up. Not that 2011 cap situation even matters since Howard will be a free agent in 2012.


                            1> i dont make 1k bets...those are for chumps like you...I make 5k bets...sometimes 10k...just ask bookmaker...they have me as VIP.

                            2> I have studied more math than all of your family combined. I have more science and math degrees than you can imagine....and I work for fortune 100 companies. Lets leave at that.

                            3> I dont have time all day to baby-sit you in SBR forum.

                            4> The salaries add upto more than 55 million..in fact its 58 million...check this dumb ass:-

                            Visit ESPN for live scores, highlights and sports news. Stream exclusive games on ESPN and play fantasy sports.


                            5> Dwight Howard will never come to New Jersy. No player in their right mind would want to come to new jersy.

                            6> Deron will run once his contract expires. Jay z magic wont work on deron just like it didnt work for carmelo. Deron will get sick of being a sub .500 team. He was a good PG for team which was great with boozer, korver, kirlenko, millsap and jefferson. But deron got all the credit. When he comes to nets, he will realise how much jazz meant to him. Going from an elite team to the scrub of the NBA. He will never be an all-star again.
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                            • N.O.S.
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 03-18-10
                              • 843

                              #119
                              Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                              Jazz getting worse by the day.

                              Looks like they should see if Stockton, and Malone will come out of retirement.
                              This league is a joke now, 0 integrity

                              NBA=MLB
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                              • demens
                                SBR MVP
                                • 10-22-10
                                • 2785

                                #120
                                Chris Paul hasn't played like the best PG for 2 years. Hands down no argument DWill was the best point guard in the NBA last year. Tons of experts agree with this. He is not having a GREAT season (despite putting up a career high in points and shooting 46%, his assits are down by a fraction and more importantly his team is not winning (if you wanna call 31-26 not winning)) so i can concede that maybe DRose has taken over that spot.

                                But anyone acting like its not even debatable is just too wrong to talk with.
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                                • TrapperDapper
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 08-20-10
                                  • 502

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                  Neither do the Pacers. They unloaded Troy Murphy, ruining my dream of having an all "White guy" lineup.
                                  A lil reverse "Glory Road" action eh?
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                                  • demens
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 10-22-10
                                    • 2785

                                    #122
                                    4> The salaries add upto more than 55 million..in fact its 58 million...check this dumb ass:-

                                    Visit ESPN for live scores, highlights and sports news. Stream exclusive games on ESPN and play fantasy sports.

                                    DId you even listen to the video in the link you posted, you inbred you?

                                    A) They have THIS YEARS CAP up on the screen.
                                    B) It freaking says 58M not 55, you can't even get that right.
                                    C) If you actually listened to what Tom Penn said, its clear as ******* day, he says they will have 15-20M to sing more players next year or the one after that.

                                    VIP hillbilly, go read a coloring book or something you retard.
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                                    • TrapperDapper
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 08-20-10
                                      • 502

                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by demens
                                      Chris Paul hasn't played like the best PG for 2 years. Hands down no argument DWill was the best point guard in the NBA last year. Tons of experts agree with this. He is not having a GREAT season (despite putting up a career high in points and shooting 46%, his assits are down by a fraction and more importantly his team is not winning (if you wanna call 31-26 not winning)) so i can concede that maybe DRose has taken over that spot.

                                      But anyone acting like its not even debatable is just too wrong to talk with.
                                      It's definitely debatable. But Paul was hurt last year, but he started the all star game this year for a reason. D Will will play much better in Jersey where he won't be contained to running offensive sets.
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                                      • vyomguy
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 12-08-09
                                        • 5794

                                        #124
                                        With the new CBA agreement, that 15-20M will be something like 8-10M you dumb ass.
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                                        • bleek88
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-12-11
                                          • 6385

                                          #125
                                          3-4 more wins this yr.
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                                          • demens
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-22-10
                                            • 2785

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by TrapperDapper
                                            It's definitely debatable. But Paul was hurt last year, but he started the all star game this year for a reason. D Will will play much better in Jersey where he won't be contained to running offensive sets.
                                            Starting at the all-star game is meaningless, it proves that Yao Ming was injured thats all. All-NBA teams are more of a factor when judging players imo.
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                                            • demens
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 10-22-10
                                              • 2785

                                              #127
                                              Way to pull a completely random new argument Inbred.

                                              Got tired of being made out to look like the uneducated, uninformed hillbilly that you are so decided to post some new blatantly wrong info. You did not even know wtf you were watching you too yet now you're making predictions on what the new CBA will be, loll. Do you even know what CBA stands for?
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                                              • BreakdaBank161
                                                SBR Rookie
                                                • 01-14-11
                                                • 40

                                                #128
                                                it would be great for da nba
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                                                • TrapperDapper
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 08-20-10
                                                  • 502

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by demens
                                                  Starting at the all-star game is meaningless, it proves that Yao Ming was injured thats all. All-NBA teams are more of a factor when judging players imo.
                                                  They do, but do you really think any of those starters didn't deserve to be starting besides Duncan?
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                                                  • zogdog
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 01-29-10
                                                    • 755

                                                    #130
                                                    This is a better deal for the Nets than the one they had for Melo. They gave up less and got a player of equal caliber. Plus, PG is becoming a more important position all the time it seems.
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                                                    • Mexes
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 11-27-09
                                                      • 691

                                                      #131
                                                      deron williams single handedly destroyed this franchise

                                                      why did this suckern not move a few weeks ago? so utah might kept sloan...

                                                      what a bitch
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                                                      • vegasfred
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 11-17-09
                                                        • 126

                                                        #132
                                                        It doesn't matter how much cap space New York Jr. has, even when they move to Brooklyn, the stars don't want to play there. Unfortunately, the fan don't want to accept it, but the Nets are playing on the same level as Cleveland, Indiana, Sacramento etc. They're just not one of the glamour teams that the big names want to go to.

                                                        The only thing that will keep DWill there is if the money's too great to leave or the new CBA has a franchise tag.
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                                                        • raiders32
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 03-17-10
                                                          • 566

                                                          #133
                                                          I think its a good trade. Deron Williams is one the best pg in the nba.
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                                                          • buckeyes1661
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 02-18-11
                                                            • 5

                                                            #134
                                                            Who did they trade Deron Williams to? Does this have any significant implacations?
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                                                            • vegasfred
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 11-17-09
                                                              • 126

                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by TrapperDapper
                                                              They do, but do you really think any of those starters didn't deserve to be starting besides Duncan?
                                                              In fairness to both sides of the argument, I guess the starters that actually started all deserved to be there, though I believe Yao Ming was voted in as the starting Center in the West ....
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                                                              • antifoil
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 11-11-09
                                                                • 3993

                                                                #136
                                                                good never like the jazz. always glad when they are going down hill
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                                                                • bradthebloke
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 07-26-09
                                                                  • 3175

                                                                  #137
                                                                  west getting watered down. stoudemire, meng out, mcgrady when he was something, carmelo, williams, boozer. missing any?
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                                                                  • demens
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 10-22-10
                                                                    • 2785

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by TrapperDapper
                                                                    They do, but do you really think any of those starters didn't deserve to be starting besides Duncan?
                                                                    DWill 21/10 46% record 31-26
                                                                    Paul 16/10 48% record 33-25

                                                                    Not saying either one deserved it more then the other, i think maybe the expectation for Jazz were a bit higher and NO lower. But either way, All-star doesn't matter much.

                                                                    Chris Paul is simply not the same player he was 2 years ago after his knee injuries. Williams is better imo. Its arguable, not saying and it isn't but i'd rather have Williams. That would be my choice before this deal was made, even though i hate that he was responsible for Sloan, for healthy reason DWill is just better going forward.
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                                                                    • reppin_the_847
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 03-10-10
                                                                      • 1576

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Damn dude, I may need to start tailing your plays from now on. You have a thread where you post your plays?

                                                                      Originally posted by vyomguy


                                                                      1> i dont make 1k bets...those are for chumps like you...I make 5k bets...sometimes 10k...just ask bookmaker...they have me as VIP.

                                                                      2> I have studied more math than all of your family combined. I have more science and math degrees than you can imagine....and I work for fortune 100 companies. Lets leave at that.

                                                                      3> I dont have time all day to baby-sit you in SBR forum.

                                                                      4> The salaries add upto more than 55 million..in fact its 58 million...check this dumb ass:-

                                                                      Visit ESPN for live scores, highlights and sports news. Stream exclusive games on ESPN and play fantasy sports.


                                                                      5> Dwight Howard will never come to New Jersy. No player in their right mind would want to come to new jersy.

                                                                      6> Deron will run once his contract expires. Jay z magic wont work on deron just like it didnt work for carmelo. Deron will get sick of being a sub .500 team. He was a good PG for team which was great with boozer, korver, kirlenko, millsap and jefferson. But deron got all the credit. When he comes to nets, he will realise how much jazz meant to him. Going from an elite team to the scrub of the NBA. He will never be an all-star again.
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                                                                      • demens
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 10-22-10
                                                                        • 2785

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by vegasfred
                                                                        It doesn't matter how much cap space New York Jr. has, even when they move to Brooklyn, the stars don't want to play there. Unfortunately, the fan don't want to accept it, but the Nets are playing on the same level as Cleveland, Indiana, Sacramento etc. They're just not one of the glamour teams that the big names want to go to.

                                                                        The only thing that will keep DWill there is if the money's too great to leave or the new CBA has a franchise tag.
                                                                        Nets aren't a glamor team, i accept that. But their owner is as glamor as they come and he is doing his best to change that. Maybe he'll be able to accomplish that maybe he wont, but good things are happening to favor his quest and this is one of them.

                                                                        Unless you have a crystal ball that tells you the future, you really can't say whether stars will want to come play in Brooklyn if the team is good.
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