Jazz trading Deron Williams to Nets

[baldur]

is isiah thomas gm of utah jazz?

[pokerpro44]

nets will be getting the better deal.

[face]

now all they have to do is trade that spaz brooke lopez for someone who can rebound

[BadBeatBodog]

PER Difference
Nash: 13.2
Paul: 10.4
Rose: 9.1
Williams: 8.6
Rondo: 6.4

Simple +/- Rating
Nash: +15.8
Paul: +12.5
Rondo: +9
Rose: +7.1
Williams: +4.1

How is Deron Williams the second best PG in the league? He's top five, which is great. But he's not #1, or a top 10 player in the league.

[jashtonrich]

each day that goes by i get very excited because the Lakers will have the easiest road to the finals who is left in the west to make them play hard

[jjgold]

All these top point guards are so close if you rate them, it depends on who they play with.

[BadBeatBodog]

Nash is having a monster season and I don't think many people are noticing. The rest of his team stinks, so no surprise.

I also love the poster coming out of the woodwork to regurgitate cliche's about Nash not playing D (his opponent eFG% is lower than William's) and Rondo not being able to shoot (his eFG% is higher than Williams).

[BadBeatBodog]

All these top point guards are so close if you rate them, it depends on who they play with.

I think Nash and Paul come out comfortably on top. Who does Nash have this year? He's playing out of his mind with a weak supporting cast.

[Mattn3236]

These trades will only make the nets and golden state worse.

[DIRTYDIRTY]

knicks get melo haha boston wins it all with shaq daddy fools

[HoulihansTX]

Hope nobody has Jazz season win totals(over) whatever it is.

[demens]

Good argument. I bow before your immense knowledge and submit defeat.

You should. If you take issue with my initial comment then you're not worth debating with. What i said is common knowledge for anyone following the NBA.

Go on any basketball forum and run a poll on who the best pg is, and who the top 10 players are and educate yourself.

[oiler]

PER Difference
Nash: 13.2
Paul: 10.4
Rose: 9.1
Williams: 8.6
Rondo: 6.4

Simple +/- Rating
Nash: +15.8
Paul: +12.5
Rondo: +9
Rose: +7.1
Williams: +4.1

How is Deron Williams the second best PG in the league? He's top five, which is great. But he's not #1, or a top 10 player in the league.

totally agree,hes one of the best but wouldnt build a team around him

[demens]

Wow, did not know that. I guess NJN calculated the risk and made the gamble because you know they was aware of that. Sometimes you got to just take your shot and make the move.

I 100% agree with you that if Deron leaves its a disaster. But i think the odds of that happening are very unlikely. Even if things dont go well here and he wants out there is alwasy an option to trade him just like Den with Melo. Might not get the same package they gave up just now but they'll get something.

I have no delusions about it, i'm sure Deron is on the phone right now cursing out his agent, who in their right mind would want to play here? But hey, i'm also sure Jason Kidd wasn't too thrilled when he was traded here and that worked out pretty good. I'm confident that Prokhy can influence him to chance his mind, plus once the Nets start putting a few wins together the outlook will change for sure.

[legendmatt34]

The west gets even weaker..

[Deuce]

Williams is now going to be twice as miserable.

[demens]

Hope nobody has Jazz season win totals(over) whatever it is.

I have the Nets 24.5, 8 more wins.

[TrapperDapper]

How can you make that argument. Every time a game gets close the other teams takes Nash to the block. And Rondo will obviously shoot a higher percentage because he never takes tough shots. All he does are take wide open layups.

[ipirate007]

Utah is going to suck hard now.

[vyomguy]

why did utah settle for less from nets.

nets were offering 4 1st round draft picks for carmelo...additionally they were offering 2 extra guys as well besides harris and favors.

utah should have atleast asked 2 more 1st rounders.

This is a bad deal for utah. They could have gotten so much more from other teams. harris and favors suck balls and are no good. All utah got was 2 1st rounders.....god knows how they will turn out.

Utah could have gotten a star player in return.....real bad deal for utah.

[TrapperDapper]

why did utah settle for less from nets.

nets were offering 4 1st round draft picks for carmelo...additionally they were offering 2 extra guys as well besides harris and favors.

utah should have atleast asked 2 more 1st rounders.

This is a bad deal for utah. They could have gotten so much more from other teams. harris and favors suck balls and are no good. All utah got was 2 1st rounders.....god knows how they will turn out.

Utah could have gotten a star player in return.....real bad deal for utah.

Billups was also involved.

[THE HITMAN]

Jazz losing two coaches in a matter of days. First Sloan and now Williams.

[vyomguy]

Billups was also involved.

But Billups wanted a buy-out....and he is very old. Are you saying billups is worth two 1st round draft picks?

[Scahom1]

Go nets!!!

[demens]

Its because Deron is signed for 1 year and Melo was extended for another 4 dumbass.

[TrapperDapper]

But Billups wanted a buy-out....and he is very old. Are you saying billups is worth two 1st round draft picks?

Of course not. I'm just saying it was multiple player deal and their were other factors involved. It wasn't just swap D Will for Melo.

[demens]

And also Billups didn't want a buy out you misinformed tool. He wanted a guarantee his contact WONT be bought out NEXT year so he can make his 14M.

[vyomguy]

Nets will suck even with d.williams. LOL he hates this trade. He would want to goto knicks come 2012.

[hawley]

unreal Utah



This was the last thing i expected to wake up and see

[vyomguy]

Nets dont have much cap space to acquire another star. Nobody wants morrow, murphy etc..

And no...dwight howard would prefer lakers over nets anyday...keep dreaming about d.howard nets fans.

lakers have more assets to give than nets..let me rephrase it...nets have no assets to trade for d.howard...brook lopez is weak. magic would prefer bynum over lopez anyday.

Why do you think lakers didnt go for carmelo this year..coz they are targeting howard next year for bynum.

[demens]

Stop talking and go learn something. The more times you post wrong information wont make it right silly.

[Dark Horse]

Jazz losing two coaches in a matter of days. First Sloan and now Williams.

The two are related. Mormons are known for their racist view that blacks are inferior. That's why Utah is consistently among the whitest teams in the NBA. Williams is 'light', and so is Devon Harris that is coming in now. My guess is that Williams was becoming a little too 'black' to their liking. It is known he had a run-in with Sloan on the night before the coach resigned.

[TrapperDapper]

Yeah wtf. Murphy is supposed to get bought out by GS and they were just saying the Nets should have a lot of cap space.

[vyomguy]

Yeah wtf. Murphy is supposed to get bought out by GS and they were just saying the Nets should have a lot of cap space.

even without murphy...they have 55 million in salary....with the new CBA agreement, it becomes almost impossible to aquire the 3rd superstar...same goes for the knicks.

[romecloneout]

nice job utah...i guess the only good thing is troy murphy finally gets out of nj....rumor is that gs will buy him out and he will likely end uo in miami or boston