The Next Attack Upon Barak Will Be - - - -

[ritehook]

. . . by attacking his military affairs advisor, Tony McPeak.

McPeak is one of those out-of-favor guys who actually put the interests of the USA above the interests of other countres, even one our famous "friends."

The attack on Obama via his former pastor more or less fizzled, after the new "great communicator" made his speech on that matter.

But there are VERY POWERFUL entities in the country (tho not necessarily of it) who are enormously fearful of Obama getting the nom, and thus an election away from sitting down for dinner in the White House.

What entities? No, not the KKK. Those guys are pitiful, not powerful. Not the old conservatives. They're too - uh - polite.

Neoconservates? Hey, now you're talkin'!

Yeah, with their eyes on the prize of perpetual war and a never-ending US military presence in the ME, they have Obama in their sights.

And their next Target of Opportunity is likely McPeak, former AF Chief of Staff. He may well be in for a big neocon smear.

[ritehook]

A statement by McPeak that may come back to haunt him (free speech exists only in theory among the power entities):

“Let’s say that one of your abiding concerns is the security of Israel as opposed to a purely American self-interest, then it would make sense to build a dozen or so bases in Iraq. Let’s say you are a born-again Christian and you think that Armageddon and the rapture are about to happen any minute and what you want to do is retrace steps you think are laid out in Revelations, then it makes sense. So there are a number of scenarios here that could lead you in this direction. This is radical....The secret of the neoconservative movement is that it’s not conservative, it’s radical. Guys like me, who are conservatives, are upset about these neocons calling themselves conservative when they’re so radical.”

[DrunkenLullaby]

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/black_guy_asks_nation_for_change

Black Guy Asks Nation For Change

March 19, 2008 | Issue 44•12

CHICAGO—According to witnesses, a loud black man approached a crowd of some 4,000 strangers in downtown Chicago Tuesday and made repeated demands for change.

"The time for change is now," said the black guy, yelling at everyone within earshot for 20 straight minutes, practically begging America for change. "The need for change is stronger and more urgent than ever before. And only you—the people standing here today, and indeed all the people of this great nation—only you can deliver this change."
Enlarge Image Black Guy

The black guy is oddly comfortable demanding change from people he's never even met.

It is estimated that, to date, the black man has asked every single person in the United States for change.

"I've already seen this guy four times today," Chicago-area ad salesman Blake Gordon said. "Every time, it's the same exact spiel. 'I need change.' 'I want change.' Why's he so eager for all this change? What's he going to do with it, anyway?"

After his initial requests for change, the black man rambled nonstop on a variety of unrelated topics, calling for affordable health care, demanding that the government immediately begin withdrawing troops from Iraq, and proposing a $75 billion economic stimulus plan to create new jobs.

"What a wacko," Schaumburg, IL resident Patrick Morledge said. "And, of course, after telling us all about how he had the ability to magically fix everything, he went right back to asking for change. Typical."

"If he's really looking for change, he's got the wrong guy," Morledge added.

Reports indicate that the black man has been riding from city to city across the country, asking for change wherever he goes. Citizens in Austin, TX said they spotted the same guy standing on the street Friday, shouting far-fetched ideas about global warming. Cleveland residents also reported seeing him in a local park, wildly gesticulating and quoting from the Bible. And last week, patrons at the Starlight Diner in Cheyenne, WY claimed that the black man accosted them while they were eating, repeatedly requesting change.

"I saw him walk in and I knew he was headed straight for our table," said mother of three Gladys Davies. "He just stood there smiling at us for a while, and asked how our food tasted. Then he went and did the same thing at the next table over. The nerve of some people."

Those who encountered the black man Tuesday said he engaged in erratic behavior, including pointing at random people in the crowd and desperately saying he needs their help, going up to complete strangers and hugging them, and angrily claiming that he is not looking for just a little bit of change, but rather a great deal of change, and that he wants it "right now."

"I'll be honest, when that black guy said he would 'stop at nothing' to get change, it kind of scared me," local mechanic Phil Nighbert said. "Just leave me alone."

Though many were taken aback by the black man's brazen demands, some, such as Jackson, MS's Holly Moser, sympathized with him. She gave the black man credit for boldly standing up and asking every last person around him for change.

"I told him I'd give him some if I saw him later, even though I probably won't," Moser said. "Very nice man, though."

Most, however, ignored his requests.

"I'm a hardworking American who pays his taxes, and the last thing I need is some guy on the street demanding change from me," said William Overkamp, a Springfield, IL gun-shop owner.

He added, "What he really needs is a job."

[ShamsWoof10]

I told you before and I'll tell ya' again..

Obama IS A F*CKIN' LLLLLOCK to win...

[ritehook]

The Onion is often pretty amusing. Tho,like with this piece, they went on too long.

Satire is hard to write, and the tragedy of it, so to speak, is that when it's good it also has to be short.'

OK, Sham, win or lose I'll fish your statement back up an post it here, in November (or sooner, if the Clinton machine rolls Hil into the nom)

[BrentCrude]

If his bill sponsoring record in Illinois hasn't destroyed him,what could?

The guy sponsors a bill that allows doctors to kill living babies that made it through late term abortions that were botched,he voted for passing every anti gun ownership bill and he votes for armed robbers being able to sue homeowners when the home owner protecting his family injures the burglar in his house as a result of self defense.

Why hasn't anyone in the socialist media asked Obama these questions at an open forum????????????????Is this the bizzarro world that Seinfeld always brings up where everything is opposite of what it should be or is this George Castanza'a theory where you got ahead doing the opposite of what makes sense and you come out ahead?

[ShamsWoof10]

OK, Sham, win or lose I'll fish your statement back up an post it here, in November (or sooner, if the Clinton machine rolls Hil into the nom)

Fair enough.. I'll throw my betting ticket(s) up since this is an all in play but I wonder if they will let me parlay his winning with his assasination...? I would have to wait four years for that to pay out though...

[ritehook]

OK.
If he gets the nomination, and then someone tries to pop him, it will 100% guarantee be blamed on the kKK, or someone with that mindset.

Should someone put him in their sights I will agree it will be "racists," but of a someone different kind than the ones we've seen in the US

[ritehook]

The guy sponsors a bill that allows doctors to kill living babies that made it through late term abortions that were botched,he voted for passing every anti gun ownership bill and he votes for armed robbers being able to sue homeowners when the home owner protecting his family injures the burglar in his house as a result of self defense.

Why hasn't anyone in the socialist media asked Obama these questions at an open forum????????????????Is this the bizzarro world that Seinfeld always brings up where everything is opposite of what it should be or is this George Castanza'a theory where you got ahead doing the opposite of what makes sense and you come out ahead?

To me, it's a matter of overriding issues. Few will be in agreement with any one candidate on all the issues.

The war, and the US's one-sided involvement in the ME, is the overriding issue. When a war is going to cost 3 trillion bucks, that's also a big neg for the economy.

I doubt that all, or evem a majority, of the people who are going to vote for McCain agree with his desire to give a de facto amnesty to millions of illegals.

[Scorpion]

every time Hillary attacks Borak she looks so childish and stupid thats why nothing she has done has worked, I cant believe her stupid lie about Bosnia and sniper fire and all that shit, stupid woman! Of course she is STUPID otherwise she would left for cheating on her with Monica, Jennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Julie,...

[purecarnagge]

Actually as much as I hate to admit it. Hilary Clinton is a very smart women. She would prob do a very good job of running this country except on a few minor issues.

I don't want to pay for poor people to be forced into buying health care. Its not my job to pay for it. I pay enough for my own even with benefits... Just my 2 cents there.

But Hilary is just a terrible communicator. Being able to communicate seems to be half of the battle with politics. Thats why slick willy was slick willy... (bill stay away from monica plz). I plan on voting for Obama btw.

But our Oil crisis is just that an OIL CRISIS and GW BUSH ain't stopping that now... Maybe a Democrat can, help but its too late if you ask me. This Bush is the worst president I've ever lived through. He went to war in Iraq because Sadaam put a hit out on his dad.

[curious]

Actually as much as I hate to admit it. Hilary Clinton is a very smart women. She would prob do a very good job of running this country except on a few minor issues.

I don't want to pay for poor people to be forced into buying health care. Its not my job to pay for it. I pay enough for my own even with benefits... Just my 2 cents there.

But Hilary is just a terrible communicator. Being able to communicate seems to be half of the battle with politics. Thats why slick willy was slick willy... (bill stay away from monica plz). I plan on voting for Obama btw.

But our Oil crisis is just that an OIL CRISIS and GW BUSH ain't stopping that now... Maybe a Democrat can, help but its too late if you ask me. This Bush is the worst president I've ever lived through. He went to war in Iraq because Sadaam put a hit out on his dad.

Actually, we dont' have an OIL CRISIS, what we have is a YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DRILL FOR OIL ON US FEDERAL LAND OR OFFSHORE WATERS CONTROLLED BY THE US FEDERAL GOVT issue. There is a moratorium on exploration and drilling for oil on 90% of federally owned land and 98% of offshore waters. The DemoCong pass this moratorium every year (it has to be voted on annually). The DemoCong also have put large proven reserves with working wells off limits by declaring the area where the reserves are as a "wilderness area", "wildlife refuge", or something else. Gull island has more proven reserves than north slope. And there will never be a single drop of oil drilled on gull island because the DemoCong declared gull island a wildlife refuge for seagulls. This was after the company that developed north slope struck oil on gull island after investing hundreds of millions of dollars.

You can't make up stuff this stupid.

[Panic]

Barack who?


I figured the thread starter didn't know how to spell his name. None the less: No way does Hussein get elected to the POTUS. You'd have to be a complete moron to think that happens.

[Shark79]

http://www.newsweek.com/id/129976

[purecarnagge]

we have a processed oil crisis...

[flyingillini]

All I know is Obama wins this Country will go to shit. My prediction is if he wins I bet someone will try to take him out.

[ShamsWoof10]

It's amazing to read what you guys think... I honestly think sub-conscientiously some of you think of the President as God... Let's take jobs as an example... (ALTHOUGH THERE ARE MANY MORE) What the hell do you guys think ANY President is going to do ....get on the phone and call China, Mexico, and India and say "...Ok guys you can come back now"...

[curious]

we have a processed oil crisis...

Exactly. The DemoCong have made it pretty much a crime to explore for, drill for, or refine oil in this country.

[Sportsgirl]

To me, it's a matter of overriding issues. Few will be in agreement with any one candidate on all the issues.

The war, and the US's one-sided involvement in the ME, is the overriding issue. When a war is going to cost 3 trillion bucks, that's also a big neg for the economy.

I doubt that all, or evem a majority, of the people who are going to vote for McCain agree with his desire to give a de facto amnesty to millions of illegals.

What few people realize is that, if you check the numbers, the illegals cost, per year, about as much as the war has cost.

[ShamsWoof10]

What few people realize is that.

NOOOOOOOOOOO... what few people realize because they spend too much time on brain numbing things is this so called "crisis" is manufactored just like the last one...

In.... I think it was 1981... there was an article in the "Wall Street Journal" stating that Pruto Bay in Alaska has ONE WELL that has more oil then all of S.Arabia... To this day those wells are untapped...

This was discovered in 1972 by "Atlantic Richfield" and the CEO's name at the time was Ken Fraum... The plan was to cap that well and the others around the world so as to artifically drive up the price in the comming decades...

Most people will tell you either the dollar or gold is the universal currency.. It's oil not those two... When oil goes up it effects nearly everyone on earth...not gold! My helmets are 90% oil based and you can't go 5 ft. without touching something made of oil...

[old threads]

NOOOOOOOOOOO... what few people realize because they spend too much time on brain numbing things is this so called "crisis" is manufactored just like the last one...

In.... I think it was 1981... there was an article in the "Wall Street Journal" stating that Pruto Bay in Alaska has ONE WELL that has more oil then all of S.Arabia... To this day those wells are untapped...

This was discovered in 1972 by "Atlantic Richfield" and the CEO's name at the time was Ken Fraum... The plan was to cap that well and the others around the world so as to artifically drive up the price in the comming decades...

Most people will tell you either the dollar or gold is the universal currency.. It's oil not those two... When oil goes up it effects nearly everyone on earth...not gold! My helmets are 90% oil based and you can't go 5 ft. without touching something made of oil...

Prudhoe Bay is what I think you mean and there is not a single well that is producing or not producing that has more oil than the Middle East unless by Middle East you just mean Israel. There is also a very large gap between discovered oil and recoverable oil. And it is a delicate and hostile environment to work in. Last numbers I read from the 3rd quater last year listed 18% of domestic oil production from Alaska and most of that is Prudhoe Bay.

[ShamsWoof10]

Prudhoe Bay is what I think you mean and there is not a single well that is producing or not producing that has more oil than the Middle East unless by Middle East you just mean Israel. There is also a very large gap between discovered oil and recoverable oil. And it is a delicate and hostile environment to work in. Last numbers I read from the 3rd quater last year listed 18% of domestic oil production from Alaska and most of that is Prudhoe Bay.

Yeah Prudhoe Bay...and you are waaaay off on this one...

If you believe that figure then you must believe the unemployment figure, inflationary numbers, and that terrorism is done by some pissed off Arab Muslims...

The numbers don't add up and Peak Oil of allll the scams is the most obvious one... Oil is up 1,000+f*ckin' percent but Unleaded is only up almost 300% not to mention the dollar has dropped quite a bit AND... Inflation or the cost to refine it (paying workers) has gone up... My helmets as I had mentioned are mostly oil based from the interior padding to the paint to the decals and they have only gone up 60%...

Discovered and recoverable.. I heard all the same sh*t in my enviromental science class...

WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWHAT--EVERRRRRR!!!

[old threads]

Meet me in Tarrant County Texas any time you want an education on oil & gas. We will see who is way off when it comes to the industry and you might even learn something about the Barnett Shale. Either that or remain ignorant the rest of your sad life.

[ShamsWoof10]

Meet me in Tarrant County Texas any time you want an education on oil & gas. We will see who is way off when it comes to the industry and you might even learn something about the Barnett Shale. Either that or remain ignorant the rest of your sad life.

Give me my first lesson then and explain why Oil has gone up 1100% and gas ALMOST 300%!!!!

Let me guess... you buy the peak oil scam too...

[old threads]

I don't need to since you're obviously so smart and know everything. It is hard to argue with a guy who knows so much about Pruto Bay and has the debating skills to end a post with WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWHAT--EVERRRRRR!!! Some town some where is missing a world class idiot.

[ShamsWoof10]

I don't need to since you're obviously so smart and know everything. It is hard to argue with a guy who knows so much about Pruto Bay and has the debating skills to end a post with WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWHAT--EVERRRRRR!!! Some town some where is missing a world class idiot.

I asked a question... now how about an answer..?

Is this the type of response I will get if I come down for my education..?

You get on my "WWWHAT-EVERRRR!!" and come back with "I don't need to"... oh ok smart guy...

[old threads]

You are right. I don't know shit about oil and gas. I have showed my fellow geologists and drillers your posts and everyone is so impressed with what we are guessing was a graduate level environmental science class. We would all like to chip in and buy you a plane ticket to Ft Worth so that we can learn from the master.

Is the helmet business a family deal like did you and your brothers and sisters all wear helmets as kids? There are a lot of Cowboys fans here so you can have a free plane ride and sell alot of your helmets.

[ShamsWoof10]

You are right. I don't know shit about oil and gas. I have showed my fellow geologists and drillers your posts and everyone is so impressed with what we are guessing was a graduate level environmental science class. We would all like to chip in and buy you a plane ticket to Ft Worth so that we can learn from the master.

Is the helmet business a family deal like did you and your brothers and sisters all wear helmets as kids? There are a lot of Cowboys fans here so you can have a free plane ride and sell alot of your helmets.

Since each helmet is $300 I think A LOT would be more then your salary...

Now instead of all this garbage about your "geological" bullsh*t how about answering my question ? That is ...IF you actually know and just not guessing...

Is the helmet business a family deal like did you and your brothers and sisters all wear helmets as kids?

There are not very many TRULY educated people that put sentences together like this...

[ShamsWoof10]

I put this question to you again not that you would know the answer anyway but what the hell...

We had a "so called" crisis back in 1972 and it was sectionlized... All of a sudden there was no crisis and for THIRTY F*CKIN' YEARS we dramtically increased our consumption and Oil dropped to an amazing $10 a barrel..

WHAT THE F*CK WAS DISCOVERED that made us go from CRISIS to using guzzling SUV's and making even more sh*t out of Oil FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS!!!? Keep in mind that not only did the same people use more but MORE people were added to the mix as in a rise in population...

Now it's about 30 years later and in 6-8 years Oil goes up 1,100% with Gas going up only 300%... Oil didn't go up during the 90's with the economic boom... noooo that would make too much sense...instead it went up during the slowdown... Can you explain why that is..?

Kenny Fraum's answer makes sense to me and while it is possible the Wall Street Journal was f*ckin' with Shams in 1981 it's not likely...

[ritehook]

Sham, I know nothing about oil but what I've read,but I did read somewhere that the oil industry now knows how to get more gas out of the same amount of oil.

I know that in the early 80s they did it by reducing the amount of octane in the gasoline. What they may be doing now I don't know.

The lock that Big Oil has on production and retailing should be broken by antitrust laws. Disallow the Big Five to control the commodity from the wellhead to the corner service station.

Bring competiton and price wars (remember those?) back to this highly protected and politically invested business.

Do the book publisher own B&N? Does the beef industry own McDonalds, BK, Wendys etc? Do food processors and farmers own the local grocery stores?

Why allow Big Oil to own the local retail outlets, as well as the major distribution networks? If you've ever seen, say, a Texaco tanker unloading at a local Mobil, or at a local Joe's Gas Station, you know there is not real competition in this industry, not on the distribution and retail level.

[ShamsWoof10]

The lock that Big Oil has on production and retailing should be broken by antitrust laws. Disallow the Big Five to control the commodity from the wellhead to the corner service station.

Bring competiton and price wars (remember those?) back to this highly protected and politically invested business.

Do the book publisher own B&N? Does the beef industry own McDonalds, BK, Wendys etc? Do food processors and farmers own the local grocery stores?.

I understand what you are saying but we are talking about Oil which is the base of all the products you mentioned above and many more... Kroger can cut cost by making their own milk but you can't make your own Oil... The base root of most things is oil and if it soars in price the things MADE OF IT should as well...

Like I said ...Kenny Fraum is is pretty good source for me not to mention what he stated would happen has happened... It was stated 20 years ago that Oil would drop and then hyperinflate... I like following people who have been right...

By the way 3 members of my family worked at the BP refinary here in Oregon for 20 years and being nosey I inquire a lot and have taken tours... My dad also does not buy the peak oil bullsh*t... I guess it's like he says though "You're not going to change anyone's mind no matter what you tell them"...

[Willie Bee]

I guess it's like he says though "You're not going to change anyone's mind no matter what you tell them"...

Might have been realized while raising you

You can produce your own oil just like Kroger can produce its own milk, Shams. You will first need to own your mineral rights, which very few people do, or in the case of milk you would need to own your own cows/goats. You could then build yourself a refinery or a pasteurization facility.

[ShamsWoof10]

Might have been realized while raising you

You can produce your own oil just like Kroger can produce its own milk, Shams. You will first need to own your mineral rights, which very few people do, or in the case of milk you would need to own your own cows/goats. You could then build yourself a refinery or a pasteurization facility.

Would you like to take a shot at the rest of my question or do you only pick the part out where you can make some goofy reply...

How about giving me a company that sells "products" ...like a helmet for instance and makes their own oil...

[Willie Bee]

Shams, trust me, we're all real impressed that you've toured a BP facility, asked some questions and took some course in college. All I did was spend 20+ years in the wireline business, which I won't explain since as OT said, you already know every-bloody-thing. I learned a little bit about what it takes to go out and find oil or natural gas and I learned a little bit about what it takes to build some of the exploration equipment on the upstream side of the service industry. I know what it means when someone tells me which way the Kelly is turning. I know a little bit about what it takes a good crew to pull 8600' feet of pipe out of the hole. I have slapped chain and worked on sloppy workover rigs doing completion jobs. I know how to tear apart a cablehead and rebuild it with my eyes closed. And I know you already know that I'm fully qualified to operate the key to the vee door, calibrate a sheave wheel and collect a mud sample.

But the business of oil? You two are on your own there. I'm sure you were a wonderful child who always accepted what his father told him, so I apologize if my 'goofy comment' somehow offended you or your family.

[ShamsWoof10]

All I did was spend 20+ years in the wireline business, which I won't explain since as OT said, you already know every-bloody-thing. I learned a little bit about what it takes to go out and find oil or natural gas and I learned a little bit about what it takes to build some of the exploration equipment on the upstream side of the service industry. I know what it means when someone tells me which way the Kelly is turning. I know a little bit about what it takes a good crew to pull 8600' feet of pipe out of the hole. I have slapped chain and worked on sloppy workover rigs doing completion jobs. I know how to tear apart a cablehead and rebuild it with my eyes closed. And I know you already know that I'm fully qualified to operate the key to the vee door, calibrate a sheave wheel and collect a mud sample.

I had asked some questions and as I was reading your impressive resume I thought that you would have some imput but I guess you are more interested in polishing your ego... I am not "MONSTER.COM"... Why the hell did you post all that sh*t ..to let me know that you have knowledge and experience but it stops right there... You came in to post to let Shams know what..????

Willie ..it doesn't seem like your style to just pop in and polish your ego but this is SBR and with all the ghosts around here... WHO CAN I CALL..???

I'm sure you were a wonderful child who always accepted what his father told him, so I apologize if my 'goofy comment' somehow offended you or your family.

I didn't accept much of what my dad told me and when he told me about peak oil being a scam (amoung other things) I thought he was a nut case... He was right about most things but I like to find out for myself... I don't claim to know everything I only claim to want to learn everything so some actual imput or an I don't know instead of an ego polishing would be nice...

I can dig through my other drive and post that article (Wall Street Journal) and some other info. about Ken Fraum and Atlantic Richfield... If you have a logical response then I would sure love to hear it....