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  • mofome
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-19-07
    • 13003

    #1
    List the factors you consider when capping a baseball game
    humidity?
    wind?
    park?
    availability of Rps?
    specific matchups SP v Batter?
  • Kellen
    SBR MVP
    • 01-19-08
    • 3484

    #2
    SP, Park, RP (usage lately), individual performance vs certain pitcher/hitter, weather not so much,
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    • mofome
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 12-19-07
      • 13003

      #3
      i like to check the wind when a finesse pitcher is on the hill. a bit harder to locate and that gives the opposition an advantage
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      • thegreatdiatchi
        SBR MVP
        • 03-07-08
        • 1154

        #4
        batting avg vs starting pitcher, whether the stadium is a pitcher's or hitter's park (for determining how well the guys who either hr or strike out do), usage of bullpen in last 3 games, injury reports, overall team momentum going into matchup.

        I would never think to check the wind but Mo has a point. I'm looking forward to seeing what other people say here since i'm shit at capping bases.
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        • diogee
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-11-08
          • 19477

          #5
          Fading the -200 Bank it lock of the day has to lead to profit in the long run
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          • buztah
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 03-23-07
            • 7470

            #6
            Starting pitchers and the bull pens. 90% of my analysis lies there. 10% focuses on hitting.
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            • TexansFan
              SBR MVP
              • 09-06-06
              • 3367

              #7
              I just go through the various forums and anyone who says their game is a "lock" then I bet it.
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              • Sportsgirl
                SBR MVP
                • 09-10-06
                • 4493

                #8
                I look at the uniforms and who has the nicest "doop."
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                • frankiecheese
                  SBR Hustler
                  • 03-31-08
                  • 92

                  #9
                  Past History

                  I do some research on current winning streaks/losing streaks; how each team has done against each other the last 10 games; history of SP versus opposing team.

                  Now -- I am going to add the doop factor; also like the bullpen factor as well.
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                  • Willie Bee
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-14-06
                    • 15726

                    #10
                    Opposing starting pitchers (history against teams assuming lineups are roughly the same)
                    Current injuries
                    Current streaks by either or both teams
                    Whether or not the closer has pitched the last 2-3 nights in a row
                    Weather
                    Umpires
                    Price of hot dogs
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                    • mofome
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 12-19-07
                      • 13003

                      #11
                      Originally posted by frankiecheese
                      I do some research on current winning streaks/losing streaks; how each team has done against each other the last 10 games; history of SP versus opposing team.

                      Now -- I am going to add the doop factor; also like the bullpen factor as well.


                      the doop factor seems important. good thing we have nance.


                      i like streaks.

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                      • austintx05
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-24-06
                        • 3156

                        #12
                        Originally posted by mofome
                        i like to check the wind when a finesse pitcher is on the hill. a bit harder to locate and that gives the opposition an advantage
                        believe it or not a lot of bettors look at weather and it is one of the most overrated topics to look at...

                        how pitchers perform in certain parks is much more insightful, just go take a look at Kenny Rogers in Oakland.
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                        • Willie Bee
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 02-14-06
                          • 15726

                          #13
                          Weather might be overrated for moneyline or run line bets, austin, but if you just totally ignore the weather and you're a totals player, then you're going to be in trouble.
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                          • Sportsgirl
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-10-06
                            • 4493

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Willie Bee
                            Opposing starting pitchers (history against teams assuming lineups are roughly the same)
                            Current injuries
                            Current streaks by either or both teams
                            Whether or not the closer has pitched the last 2-3 nights in a row
                            Weather
                            Umpires
                            Price of hot dogs
                            You should also factor in the price of and the quality of beer they have.
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                            • austintx05
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-24-06
                              • 3156

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Willie Bee
                              Weather might be overrated for moneyline or run line bets, austin, but if you just totally ignore the weather and you're a totals player, then you're going to be in trouble.
                              ahh yes, but I am not talking totals.
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                              • SBR Lou
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 08-02-07
                                • 37863

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Willie Bee
                                Weather might be overrated for moneyline or run line bets, austin, but if you just totally ignore the weather and you're a totals player, then you're going to be in trouble.
                                Can't believe you predicted the Yankees under the win total.

                                Wouldn't be surprised if they won over 100.
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                                • Kellen
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-19-08
                                  • 3484

                                  #17
                                  Only thing I look at is who the favorites in Vegas are.
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                                  • diogee
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-11-08
                                    • 19477

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Kellen
                                    Only thing I look at is who the favorites in Vegas are.
                                    I will be able to read our signatures for the next month and still laugh.
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                                    • mofome
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 12-19-07
                                      • 13003

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by crazyl
                                      Can't believe you predicted the Yankees under the win total.

                                      Wouldn't be surprised if they won over 100.

                                      are you in on the over?
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                                      • Sportsgirl
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-10-06
                                        • 4493

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by mofome
                                        the doop factor seems important. good thing we have nance.


                                        i like streaks.

                                        I will be happy to review the doop factor prior to games and report my findings to the forum. Shall we settle on a 1-10 rating scale? It'll be a tough job, but I feel I should step up to the plate (pun intended).
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                                        • SBR Lou
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 08-02-07
                                          • 37863

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by mofome
                                          are you in on the over?
                                          Yes. They'll win 75 games now I'm sure.
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                                          • DrunkenLullaby
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-30-07
                                            • 1631

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Kellen
                                            Only thing I look at is who the favorites in Vegas are.
                                            Ditto that!
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                                            • EaglesPhan36
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 12-06-06
                                              • 71662

                                              #23
                                              Mostly pitchers vs. the team they are playing.
                                              Road/Home splits for pitchers.
                                              Wind only when betting totals at Wrigley.

                                              Otherwise I think weather can sometimes be an over-rated factor unless we're talking snow flurries and temps in the 30s or below. Otherwise, 40s or 50s isn't really going to impact a game that much as who is pitching.
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                                              • Willie Bee
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 02-14-06
                                                • 15726

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by austintx05
                                                ahh yes, but I am not talking totals.
                                                Which brings up a topic for this thread to possibly split off to: What factors are most important for making a moneyline wager? Run line? Totals?
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                                                • Willie Bee
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 02-14-06
                                                  • 15726

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by crazyl
                                                  Can't believe you predicted the Yankees under the win total.

                                                  Wouldn't be surprised if they won over 100.
                                                  You might be right. There are several teams that wouldn't necessarily surprise me if they reached the 100-W plateau. Most of what go into my win totals are predicated on a very simple sim program, and there are a lot of intangibles that the software doesn't consider. It's also designed to bring teams more towards the mean instead of to the extreme.

                                                  Did you jump on the Over, crazy?
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                                                  • austintx05
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 08-24-06
                                                    • 3156

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Willie Bee
                                                    Which brings up a topic for this thread to possibly split off to: What factors are most important for making a moneyline wager? Run line? Totals?
                                                    totals: tired pens & ballpark
                                                    run line: I evaluate teams before the season starts as run line teams and non run line teams, which helps me stay disciplined.
                                                    moneyline: strong bullpens, overvalued SP, streaks apply to both RL/ML.
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                                                    • MonkeyF0cker
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 06-12-07
                                                      • 12144

                                                      #27
                                                      1. Starting pitchers wives' bra size
                                                      2. How many licks it takes for each batter to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop.
                                                      3. Which closer orders cheese on their Whopper.
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                                                      • Sportsgirl
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-10-06
                                                        • 4493

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                                        1. Starting pitchers wives' bra size
                                                        2. How many licks it takes for each batter to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop.
                                                        3. Which closer orders cheese on their Whopper.
                                                        Solid post.
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                                                        • Iwinyourmoney
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 04-18-07
                                                          • 18368

                                                          #29
                                                          flip a coin
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                                                          • pico
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 04-05-07
                                                            • 27321

                                                            #30
                                                            1. how many locks are one team.
                                                            2. how did my coin flip turned out.
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                                                            • Shark79
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 11-19-07
                                                              • 11211

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                                              1. Starting pitchers wives' bra size
                                                              2. How many licks it takes for each batter to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop.
                                                              3. Which closer orders cheese on their Whopper.
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                                                              • Sportsgirl
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 09-10-06
                                                                • 4493

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by picoman
                                                                1. how many locks are one team.
                                                                2. how did my coin flip turned out.
                                                                I think with this system in place, even as a woman, I could help pick games.
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                                                                • Shark79
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 11-19-07
                                                                  • 11211

                                                                  #33
                                                                  1. Which Pitcher is sober
                                                                  2. How hard did the line up partied night before
                                                                  3. How many of them got laid and how many girls were involved
                                                                  4. If the refs were invited
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                                                                  • indy62
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 07-21-07
                                                                    • 321

                                                                    #34
                                                                    im mostly a totals player so wind,weather,layout pitching are all important
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                                                                    • jjgold
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                                      • 388179

                                                                      #35
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