Eminem vs. Jay Z

**Vaughany** · 01-12-11, 04:32 AM

Slimidy Shady is better IMO To quote Nas in reference to Jay Z... "Eminem murdered you on your own shit".

**Cuse0323** · 01-12-11, 04:36 AM

Originally posted by Jordan23

It only means a lot of people are so brain washed by mainstream media.

love bizzy bone, definitely better than jay but i'd still put eminem ahead of him but he's definitely underrated.

**ttrace35** · 01-12-11, 07:44 AM

If em was black, he would be just another rapper. He was only good first album. Then he changes his flow. Now he just screams and rambles. Sounds like I'm at a carnival. Good lyrics. But unlistenable.

**Vaughany** · 01-12-11, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by ttrace35

If em was black, he would be just another rapper. He was only good first album. Then he changes his flow. Now he just screams and rambles. Sounds like I'm at a carnival. Good lyrics. But unlistenable.

**ttrace35** · 01-12-11, 08:01 AM

Originally posted by Tree Rollins

Man i'm a bone thugs fan too but you have to be kidding

Doesn't surprize me. Some do battle rap. Some concentrate on good music. Most of the best battle rappers are broke. Remember those dudes from SMACK dvd? Murder mook and Serious Jones? Great battle rappers but can't make good music. Broke.

**ttrace35** · 01-12-11, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

i listen to the guys radio station(shade_45) everyday, he himself admitted that he changed his flow after the first album, and now he sounds like a clown. He said it himself. Doc dre told him to scream on "growup to be just like me". ever since then, he been screaming crazily in all his records. A lot of people like it. Thats cool. Not me. People have different opinions.

**BRAVES1985** · 01-12-11, 08:45 AM

eminem

**big0mar** · 01-12-11, 10:37 AM

Jay-Z

The Blueprint is probably the best album of its time. Jay-Z basically changed the direction of rap music with that record.

**Vaughany** · 01-12-11, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by big0mar

Jay-Z

The Blueprint is probably the best album of its time. Jay-Z basically changed the direction of rap music with that record.

Takeover was a tune.

**drew17** · 01-12-11, 10:48 AM

both are very talented but if I had to choose, it would be Eminem

**Ninersnut** · 01-12-11, 10:53 AM

Jay-z by far. Maybe he just has some better people on his tracks tho.

Only knock on Jay is that he recycles other people's lyrics.

**Smoke** · 01-12-11, 11:50 AM

Jay-Z is way better, his lyrics are harder and he keeps it real.

Em talks too much gay shit, but if ur into the gay stuff i guess eminem is better. Listen to the lyrics closely on his last 2 albums and you will see he's into packing fudge. But again if that's ur thing you'll love eminem

**Junkyard Dog** · 01-12-11, 12:03 PM

went to their concert at yankee stadium....ems' set killed it

**Wiggums5** · 01-12-11, 12:18 PM

Eminem hands down

**ttrace35** · 01-12-11, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by Smoke

Jay-Z is way better, his lyrics are harder and he keeps it real.

Em talks too much gay shit, but if ur into the gay stuff i guess eminem is better. Listen to the lyrics closely on his last 2 albums and you will see he's into packing. fudge. But again if that's ur thing you'll love eminem

Absolutely. I don't think he's gay though. Em is obviously trying to appeal to the white audience. And white guys make gay jokes with each other all day, every day. Just something they find amusing. I don't joke around with the homies like that. Pause.

**Ninersnut** · 01-12-11, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by ttrace35

Absolutely. I don't think he's gay though. Em is obviously trying to appeal to the white audience. And white guys make gay jokes with each other all day, every day. Just something they find amusing. I don't joke around with the homies like that. Pause.

Really cause for the last 2 years or so all I've been hearing is "no homo". Sounds like some of these non-white guys might be a bit insecure.

**ttrace35** · 01-12-11, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by Ninersnut

Really cause for the last 2 years or so all I've been hearing is "no homo". Sounds like some of these non-white guys might be a bit insecure.

I agree with that also. I don't say it. Not tryin to start anything either. My white friends are the only one that joke like that constantly. Mooning each other and sh-t. I would split one of my homies head open if he ever showed me his ass. I don't think they are gay. Maybe white guys just have a better sense of humor.

**Ninersnut** · 01-12-11, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by ttrace35

I agree with that also. I don't say it. Not tryin to start anything either. My white friends are the only one that joke like that constantly. Mooning each other and sh-t. I would split one of my homies head open if he ever showed me his ass. I don't think they are gay. Maybe white guys just have a better sense of humor.

Seems like you might need new white friends. But that is pretty hilarious.

**ttrace35** · 01-12-11, 12:57 PM

Ever listen to em's channel shade 45 on satelite radio? Em has about 4 commercials where he is acting like he is gay. Supposed to be a joke but none of us in the car laugh. They play these commercials every day. Has one where he say. "Me and my friend are going on a gay man picinic". What is that shit about. Way too much gay jokes from em. If you disagree with that, then you just aren't paying attention.

**Dutch** · 01-12-11, 01:14 PM

Em annoys me with his pissed off, mad at the world look on his face. I agree, if he were black he'd have been a one album wonder.

**ttrace35** · 01-12-11, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by Dutch

Em annoys me with his pissed off, mad at the world look on his face. I agree, if he were black he'd have been a one album wonder.

Thank you Dutch. And I actually used to like the dude.

**StillSmokin** · 01-12-11, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by l7ustin

ems verse here was very legit.

whatever happened to twista that guy had some sick flow and he just dissappeared faster than mike jones

twista is still around. Heres his latest video:

As far as Jay-Z vs. Eminem... I say Em. He pretty much single handedly changed the rap game and took it to a new level. Both are all-time top 5 though..

**jkilla990** · 01-12-11, 02:00 PM

Eminem is better in my book but jay z is a close second although they are both waaay behind Biggie, Big L, MF Doom, and Rugged Man in his prime.

**Ninersnut** · 01-12-11, 02:01 PM

Good to hear a Big L shout out.

**ttrace35** · 01-12-11, 02:04 PM

Kool G Rap is greatest of all time.

**beckluna** · 01-12-11, 02:05 PM

50 cent is bunk

**legendmatt34** · 01-12-11, 02:06 PM

Saw em both this summer in NYC at Yankee stadium.. Em is the shit!

**will2survive** · 01-12-11, 02:06 PM

This is easy.

Better artist: Eminem

Better Business Man: JayZ -------

**jkilla990** · 01-12-11, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by ttrace35

Kool G Rap is greatest of all time.

Kool G Rap is definetely up there but so is Gangstarr

**ttrace35** · 01-12-11, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by jkilla990

Eminem is better in my book but jay z is a close second although they are both waaay behind Biggie, Big L, MF Doom, and Rugged Man in his prime.

Not familiar with rugged man. I see your ** avatar. I hope you aren't talkin about that snitch shyheim!!!!

**Dad** · 01-12-11, 02:29 PM

Eminem is a better rapper. But Jay Z gets to fack Beyonce, so it's a tie.

**MortalLock** · 01-12-11, 02:31 PM

Cant vote to close. But Lupe Fiasco is #1

**ttrace35** · 01-12-11, 02:33 PM

Dad listens to hip-hop??? Wtf?

**jashtonrich** · 01-12-11, 02:45 PM

sorry jay z is by far better but em does have lots of talent and lyrically just is amazing but when styles all trickle down from jay z and people take it and run with it it just puts him in the top discussions but when its all said and don e noone compares to the legacys of pac and big tru pioneers and if they were still alive there would be no jayz or em&m

**Manaconda** · 01-12-11, 02:45 PM

cant really compare the jay-z of now to any rapper since he is a business man first now...