Eminem vs. Jay Z

**ttrace35** · 01-12-11, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by jashtonrich

sorry jay z is by far better but em does have lots of talent and lyrically just is amazing but when styles all trickle down from jay z and people take it and run with it it just puts him in the top discussions but when its all said and don e noone compares to the legacys of pac and big tru pioneers and if they were still alive there would be no jayz or em&m

Jay-z would still be here. Biggie predicted Jay-z would be a star and actually told puff that he was scared of Jay-z potential to be the best.

**Giuvara** · 01-12-11, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by DeeWizzle

Good show. Eminem still has it and I like him way better than Jay Z. That twisted sense of humor is hard to duplicate.

**Mikail** · 01-12-11, 02:59 PM

Instead of arguing over Eminem and Jayz check out this heat!

**Grits n' Gravy** · 01-12-11, 02:59 PM

Eminem is a better rapper and songwriter than Jay. Jay is a smarter businessman.

Rakim shits on them all. Greatest of all time.

**Grits n' Gravy** · 01-12-11, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by ttrace35

Not familiar with rugged man. I see your ** avatar. I hope you aren't talkin about that snitch shyheim!!!!

I think he may be talking about R.A. the Rugged Man. White boy who helped Biggie start.

** is full of greats.....odb, ghost and raekwon are my 3 from the crew.

**Mikail** · 01-12-11, 03:07 PM

Hip hop intellect!

**Smoke** · 01-12-11, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by ttrace35

Ever listen to em's channel shade 45 on satelite radio? Em has about 4 commercials where he is acting like he is gay. Supposed to be a joke but none of us in the car laugh. They play these commercials every day. Has one where he say. "Me and my friend are going on a gay man picinic". What is that shit about. Way too much gay jokes from em. If you disagree with that, then you just aren't paying attention.

Thats exactly what i'm talkin about.

I listen to shade 45 all the time it's the greatest radio channel ever non-stop uncensored hip hop and i give props to em for starting the station but he does all those gay skits and shit and it's like what the fukkkk eminem!?!

Also a recent eminem freestyle on shade45 he said something like "Kiss the manequin man again" WTF???????

**onetrickpony** · 01-12-11, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by Smoke

Thats exactly what i'm talkin about. I listen to shade 45 all the time it's the greatest radio channel ever non-stop uncensored hip hop and i give props to em for starting the station but he does all those gay skits and shit and it's like what the fukkkk eminem!?! Also a recent eminem freestyle on shade45 he said something like "Kiss the manequin man again" WTF???????

hes controversial thats y hes on siruis and not on regular am/fm.

**CanuckG** · 01-12-11, 03:17 PM

and my fav.

**Dad** · 01-12-11, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by ttrace35

Dad listens to hip-hop??? Wtf?

**paco** · 01-12-11, 03:39 PM

8 mile rep.

Eminem.

**CanuckG** · 01-12-11, 03:40 PM

Big l > jay z/eminem

**ttrace35** · 01-12-11, 03:41 PM

Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy

I think he may be talking about R.A. the Rugged Man. White boy who helped Biggie start.

** is full of greats.....odb, ghost and raekwon are my 3 from the crew.

Ok good. The ** used to run wit some cat called himself "the rugged child. Has a bad name in the street right now. But anyway, ** is hot

**surfcity963** · 01-12-11, 03:45 PM

Can someone give me a good example of a decent Jay Z song?? Ive listened to many and i dont see what the hype is about. His rhymes are nothing short of 5th grade poetry, and not even intelligent. I mean its easy to create your own words when you cant think of anything to rhyme.
Not saying he isnt worthy of all of his praise, just that I dont see it anywhere. I hope he at least does his own beats, cuz the rhymes arent cutting it for me.

**CanuckG** · 01-12-11, 04:31 PM

i posted one just a couple posts above

**Smoke** · 01-12-11, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by surfcity963

Can someone give me a good example of a decent Jay Z song?? Ive listened to many and i dont see what the hype is about. His rhymes are nothing short of 5th grade poetry, and not even intelligent. I mean its easy to create your own words when you cant think of anything to rhyme.
Not saying he isnt worthy of all of his praise, just that I dont see it anywhere. I hope he at least does his own beats, cuz the rhymes arent cutting it for me.

Renegades w/ eminem is a perfect example. Jay-Z's verse completely shatterd eminems verse to pieces

**StillSmokin** · 01-12-11, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by Smoke

Renegades w/ eminem is a perfect example. Jay-Z's verse completely shatterd eminems verse to pieces

Renegades is sick. So are these:

The Originators

Dead Presidents

**daneault23** · 01-12-11, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by Smoke

Renegades w/ eminem is a perfect example. Jay-Z's verse completely shatterd eminems verse to pieces

Renegade is sick.

**DeeWizzle** · 01-12-11, 06:40 PM

**GettingScrilla** · 01-13-11, 09:33 AM

If yalll knew what was good for you this thread would be about BIG L harem's finest...better than biggie better than pac, killed too young execution style

**ttrace35** · 01-13-11, 09:42 AM

You mean harlem? Uptown? Hot rapper but never know how would have turned out. 1st album went double wood. If you are really a fan, you know that Jay-Z is on that album when he was a nobody.

**Vaughany** · 01-13-11, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by ttrace35

You mean harlem? Uptown? Hot rapper but never know how would have turned out. 1st album went double wood. If you are really a fan, you know that Jay-Z is on that album when he was a nobody.

Da Graveyard was the Jay Z track and also introduced Cam'ron on tht album, was pretty good.

**Cuse0323** · 01-13-11, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by GettingScrilla

If yalll knew what was good for you this thread would be about BIG L harem's finest...better than biggie better than pac, killed too young execution style

Big L definitely in my top 3 of all-time

**ttrace35** · 01-13-11, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Da Graveyard was the Jay Z track and also introduced Cam'ron on tht album, was pretty good.

Good job vaughany! Yes did introduce cam to the world I guess. Us in NY already knew of him. Had a group "children of the corn" featuring mase, big l, and cam.

**Vaughany** · 01-13-11, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by ttrace35

Good job vaughany! Yes did introduce cam to the world I guess. Us in NY already knew of him. Had a group "children of the corn" featuring mase, big and cam.

ha Ma$e has gone off the radar big time as have most of Diddy's affiliates! Were/Are u fan of Shyne..the true "Brooklyn King"!?

**ttrace35** · 01-13-11, 10:45 AM

Yea. Mase is dun. Shyne was ok, but was done after he shot that lady in the face at club NY. Now he's pretty much a nobody. Only a few dudes from NY still on top.

**azgrabi1** · 01-13-11, 10:52 AM

vanilla ice yo. fresh as can be.

**Dutch** · 01-13-11, 10:58 AM

I remember buying a Shyne album about 10 yrs ago or so, the one with Barrington Levy doing his Murderer thing. It didn't suck.

According to Rolling Stone magazine Shyne converted to Judaism and is living in Israel.

Found this http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/11/ar...hyne.html?_r=1

**jashtonrich** · 01-13-11, 11:00 AM

the goat aka ll cool j might be the best since he has outlasted everyone and has made hits in damn near all eras in hip hop maybe not the best but def the G.O.A.T

**Lockitup1x** · 01-13-11, 11:54 AM

I'm no hip hop or rap expert, but I relate more to Eminem. Alternatively you should check out Atmosphere...There is a lot to weed through, but some of their lyrics and arrangements are balls out. Check out "pour me another" and "trying to find a balance".

**Vaughany** · 01-13-11, 01:46 PM

Im likin French Hip Hop a lot these days thanks to GSP! Shurikn, Boulbi, Rohff, Sinik are all sick.

**jkilla990** · 01-13-11, 05:16 PM

Cappadonna rapes this track

**DeeWizzle** · 01-13-11, 05:34 PM

**The Sensei** · 01-13-11, 06:37 PM

eminem is miles ahead of Jay Z

**MarkDee** · 01-13-11, 08:00 PM

1 Pac
2 Em
3 Big L
142536 Biggie biggest wankster rapper of all time