You spell my name right, unlike most of the other guys here. So, yep.
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Think what you want dude. No one in my family ever owned slaves. Though I cannot speak for my Viking ancestors...we didn't get back that far.
Now, if we owe African Americans anything for slavery, then you asshole owe women some sort of payback for not being able to vote all those years and we'd like to be reimbursed for all those bras we had to burn to get your attention. Thanks.Comment -
Here's the kicker: You know it won't be wealthy, established, successful African Americans trying to get something for it. It will be the ones that have been sitting their asses on welfare (probably second or third generation) that haven't worked a day in their life and think the world owes them something.
Exactly.p.s. what do whites have to apologize for? For being white? To the best of my knowledge, my german and french canadian relatives didn't own slaves. But even if they did, why should I have to apologize for something they did?
p.p.s. why don't african americans demand an apology from their fellow african brothers for selling them to the evil white man in the first place?
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Fine. Let's send them all a check for what the wages would have been back then. That should be what? $20 for each. Oh and as for "a place to live without white people"? It's called Africa. America is a melting pot. This country has come a long way as far as mixing cultures. Segregating based on color would undo the entire civil rights movement. I really don't think most black people feel that way. The ones that do are racist. Period.Comment -
Deuce, Rage....well said. I had forgotten that point. I shall go pay my Irish boyfriend back tonight....of course....he's half Irish and half Italian...so I think he kind of cancels himself out.Comment -
I've been to South Africa. It's still pretty divided. Whites still maintain much of the money and power - in Africa (don't let the reigning figurehead in the presidency slot fool you). There's something fundamentally wrong with that. Your Euro-logic might not understand it, because that's considered "normal."
Tell me, if I went to Sweden would I see Black people riding around in luxury cars, dining at fine restaurants, and walking around like they own the place?
I think not but, in Africa it's "a-okay."Comment -
I didn't say that the Irish were slaves, but they were treated lower than slaves with repect to how they were treated and where they worked.
As it stands now no one race is going to be treated as well as another by people in a different race. Thats the way the world works and will always work. I'm not saying that it is right but that's how it goes.Comment -
I really don't know what you'd find in Sweden. Sadly, I haven't made the trip there yet. But I know that where I'm at, there are plenty of hard working, successful people driving around in nice cars and dining where ever they like....both black and white.
I really don't see how any of this is the caucasians' problem. It's not like the areas of Africa that no white people have ventured into are flourishing. Along with those evil, weathly whities comes better medical care.Comment -
Good money says Willyback's post count skyrockets today. Anyone?Comment -
Africans sold other Africans to European slave owners...???
There's a hint of truth within your Euro-logic. Africans practiced indentured servitude: you work (for a set period of time) under reasonable conditions. You could still own land. You went to your own home at night. You could even marry "up." It was more of a social standing: you were a "worker." There were limits placed on you because of status.
You weren't whipped, your women weren't raped, you weren't stripped of your culture, your language, your name, etc. Europeans brought forth an entirely new form of indentured servitude.
There's a fundamental breakdown in how Africans think versus how Europeans think. Africa was (and still is) saturated in natural resources. There's little need for war and conquest when the climate is warm all year and the food supply is never ending. Africans became calm and laid back people focused on philosophy, education, etc (Egyptians, Kush, Mali). Meanwhile, Europe has very little to offer it's people (other than domesticated animals). Europeans had to regularly engage in battle for shelter and food. Over time they took on a conqueror's mentality. Factor in some gunpowder (the great un-equalizer) and you get "White Power" - not only in Africa, but around the world (white people should be proud).Comment -
So, you're saying that without any help from any African tribal leaders, the Europeans sent people over, went into uncharted terrain and just rounded people up for slavery? They had no help from the African people? A few ships worth of white men were able to gather up ALL those people on their own? Wow. Just wow.Comment -
Right. That's why African countries have never had a civil war, right? They all just get along and live long, happy lives? I suppose that's the white man's fault too.There's a fundamental breakdown in how Africans think versus how Europeans think. Africa was (and still is) saturated in natural resources. There's little need for war and conquest when the climate is warm all year and the food supply is never ending. Africans became calm and laid back people focused on philosophy, educated, etc. Meanwhile, Europe has very little to offer it's people (other than domesticated animals). Europeans had to regularly engage in battle for shelter and food. Over time they took on a conqueror's mentality. Factor in some gunpowder (the great un-equalizer) and you get "White Power" - not only in Africa, but around the world (white people should be proud).Comment -
Another fine example of Euro-logic. I didn't say that. Africans and Europeans had been trading for several years prior to the slave trade. When slavery began Europeans respected the rules of indentured servitude. There were cases of free Africans in what is now Germany owning land.
But, there was a shift in policy.Comment -
That made me snort. I would love to hear Willy's solution for all this. Please, wise Willy, tell us how to fix it. How big of a check should each african american get? What kind of proof will they have to show that they did, indeed have ancestors who were slaves?
And as I said, though you ignored it before, how big will my check be for women's slavery? And don't even try saying that women weren't slaves. They may have looked better taken care of, but the were still slaves.Comment -
Euro-logic at it's finest. And I'll end it here. Forget about the checks. Forget about black history, civil rights, etc.
That made me snort. I would love to hear Willy's solution for all this. Please, wise Willy, tell us how to fix it. How big of a check should each african american get? What kind of proof will they have to show that they did, indeed have ancestors who were slaves?
And as I said, though you ignored it before, how big will my check be for women's slavery? And don't even try saying that women weren't slaves. They may have looked better taken care of, but the were still slaves.
It's as simple as this. Send all blacks back to Africa. Send all whites out of Africa. No communication with the outside world (no trade, no tourism, no dollar, no euro - Africans actually have the eco now). The land still very rich. I guarantee you that they will find a way to work it out. If they don't (and everybody's dead from AIDS and/or war) the Europeans can come back to Africa and never see another black person for the remainder of history.Comment
. What a joke. You should do stand-up.
