Sharpton Wants NFL Game Canceled

[curious]

Shazer - I respectfully disagree. I've studied the origins of the African/American experience (extensively). Here are some little known facts about slavery.

European prisoners from the debtors’ prisons in Europe where actually the first slaves in the United States. What happened - they had worker’s rights (they were very limited rights, but they still had rights)? European slaves were able to file grievances with their perspective home country's citing poor working conditions in the U.S. They were eventually sent back home to Europe and/or employed as "buck-breakers" for the new staff of African slaves.

Europeans tried to enslave the native Americans as well, but they fell victim to European diseases (illnesses that white people had developed natural immunities to from their living conditions within close proximity to domesticated animals in Europe). Native Americans would also fight back (very hostile and uncontrollable for the purposes of slavery).Native Americans ran away, back off into the forests that the European explorers where not familiar with. They were too uncooperative and sickly to work the land.

Enter the African slaves (or Khemet – land of the blacks). Africa is a European word. Africans were immune to European diseases from years of trade, they were non hostile (traditional African culture was very peaceful – there was no need for war because the land was rich in resources for everyone to live well), and they new how to cultivate land. Slave owners didn’t know what to do with South Carolina at first. It was the African slaves who taught them how to grow rice and make the settlement’s land profitable.

White people enjoy all their riches in the US and Europe, because Africans made the sacrifice then and they’re still making the sacrifice now. Do they owe Africa, because of this unfortunate fact – yes. Are they going to pay – no. Does Africa have the power to make them pay – no. So it’s a dead issue.

You left out one small detail. Importation of slaves to the Americas would have been IMPOSSIBLE if it had not been for black nations and Muslim nations warring on other black nations to create the slaves in the first damm place. Yemen was one of the worst culprits. There were many kingdoms in Africa both black and Muslim which produced the slaves in the first place. The western Europeans and Americans did not send armies to Africa to conquer these tribes and nations to get the millions of slaves that were sent to the Americas. Other black nations and tribes and Muslim nations did this.

So, in your scheme to pay reparations to the descendents of black slaves are you going to have Yemen pitch in? Muscat? Saudi Arabia? The Muslims all over East and West Africa?

More importantly, are you going to call for an end to the MODERN day enslavement of blacks by Muslims? Which still goes on.

Why do the Muslims always get a pass on this? The Muslim slave trade in Africa is alive and well. Where is Al Sharpton when you need him?

Oh, and it was the British who put a stop to the Muslim slave traders in East Africa at the end of the 1700s beginning of the 1800s.

[willyback]

Give credit to the workers... Black people are f*cked up because of slavery. Everything you see today is the product of slavery. White people know it, but they don't want to admit it. Africans are the only immigrants that came here against their will, in the hulls of slave ships, shackled together, pissing on each other, sh*tting on each other...

They get here to the new world (the ones who survived the trip across the Atlantic) and then guess what happens? They're sold off like cattle. Then they get to the farm - the slave master has sexual privileges over the African women and men - if he's gay (rape, sodomy, you name it). Slaves are whipped, beaten, worked to death, mentality broken, their culture is belittled and beaten out of them, their language is belittled and beaten out of them. Come on... for 400 years this sh*t goes down. Generation after generation of inhumane treatment at the hands of White slave handlers. That's not going to mess them up mentally? Dogs, pigs, and sheep have more rights in this white controlled, slavery driven social environment than slaves?

Come on Curious... Let's be real. You can't fix that sh*t overnight. Even when whites "freed the slave" they still had the KKK, jim crow, white knights, job discrimination, laws preventing blacks from owning guns, etc. all that sh*t working against them... No apology, to repayment, just pure unadulterated white hate in their face (minus the chains - because they're supposed to be free, RIGHT - AMEN!!!).

Please... You have no argument that even comes close to the truth about African slavery in American - so lets do everybody a favor and end this sh*t right now.

I got a Rangers game to watch - f*cking up my money.

Peace.

[The Seer]

racism is a natural animal instinct. its in the animal kingdom its in humans. the media adds fuel to the fire. always a toothless hick after a tornado in Kansas. always a thug illiterate witness in a bad drug deal in a afro American neighborhood. always the Frito bandito in an immigration protest. we all have racism in us. its the greater human who seeks out those who deserve respect regardless of color or creed and give them the same. treat people as individuals. a shit head is a shit head no matter what color.

excellent post hap.

[willyback]

You left out one small detail. Importation of slaves to the Americas would have been IMPOSSIBLE if it had not been for black nations and Muslim nations warring on other black nations to create the slaves in the first damm place. Yemen was one of the worst culprits. There were many kingdoms in Africa both black and Muslim which produced the slaves in the first place. The western Europeans and Americans did not send armies to Africa to conquer these tribes and nations to get the millions of slaves that were sent to the Americas. Other black nations and tribes and Muslim nations did this.

So, in your scheme to pay reparations to the descendents of black slaves are you going to have Yemen pitch in? Muscat? Saudi Arabia? The Muslims all over East and West Africa?

More importantly, are you going to call for an end to the MODERN day enslavement of blacks by Muslims? Which still goes on.

Why do the Muslims always get a pass on this? The Muslim slave trade in Africa is alive and well. Where is Al Sharpton when you need him?

Oh, and it was the British who put a stop to the Muslim slave traders in East Africa at the end of the 1700s beginning of the 1800s.

Believe what you want to believe. If you think that's the truth and it helps you justify White mistreatment of Blacks - Good for you. The beautiful thing about all this crap is that White people write the history books. Blacks have never been able to tell their own stories. Sh*t, whites didn't want them to read or write.

A black man can't write the history on Europe so how can a white man write the history on Africa?

Riddle me that?

[Shazer]

European prisoners from the debtors’ prisons in Europe where actually the first slaves in the United States.

That's England's whitewashed version.
The Irish see it quite differently and I have to agree with them. "Debtor's prison is a euphemism for helpless poor people who couldn't defend themselves and had no legal recourse. By the way...this is the REAL reason for the IRA. The English enslaved their own Irish brothers and the Irish are STILL angry to this day...and I don't blame them.

Check out the movie:"The Wind That Shakes The Barley". It doesn't show the enslavement era but covers the aftermath and it's eye-opening. Plus it's a great movie.

...they had worker’s rights (they were very limited rights...

English PR, my friend.
What do you expect them to say..."Uh...We're brutal, evil bastards and we'll kill for a nickel"...

Trust me...there were no "rights"....

Your sister answers an ad to be a "cocktail hostess" in Taiwan. If she actually goes there...you can kiss your sister goodbye.

You're a slave in an unknown country with no money, no friends and no lawyer = no rights.

...or Khemet – land of the blacks.

nOW...THAT'S impressive. Very few people know that word. I'm gonna assume you know what specific civilization that word comes from.

Africans were immune to European diseases from years of trade, they were non hostile (traditional African culture was very peaceful – there was no need for war because the land was rich in resources for everyone to live well), and they new how to cultivate land.

Ok, I don't mean this as a slight. But you've been given the cleaned up versions. There were regular slave uprising and the main reason was not immunity to disease but rather the immense numbers of "whites" that died.

Humans who were acclimated to the harsh equatorial conditions survived better...which meant greater profits. It was purely a venal...mercantile decision.

White people enjoy all their riches in the US and Europe, because Africans made the sacrifice then and they’re still making the sacrifice now.

Americans AND Europeans enjoy an phenomenal lifestyle because BILLIONS (with a capital B) of dollars of natural resources are taken (stolen, really) from Africa every year.

Do they owe Africa, because of this unfortunate fact – yes. Are they going to pay – no. Does Africa have the power to make them pay – no.

We ALL owe Africa a debt of gratitude.
Does Africa have the power to make them pay?
YES...they do.

Which is precisely, why the CIA is in Africa.
Because...if there would ever be a United States of Africa...it would be all over. Both Europe and America would IMMEDIATELY become third world countries.

FACT:

The world is controlled by money.

Money is controlled by gold.

The world's gold supply comes from Africa!

He who controls Africa controls the world.

[jackpot269]

Sharpton should cancel his race baiting tactics. This one game and surrounding events probably make up 50% of the cities tourist revenue for the year.
Sharpton is a broken fubar tool that couldn't work even with trash bags on it. Sorry for the industry jargon but it is true.

Classic Sharpton!!!!

[curious]

Believe what you want to believe. If you think that's the truth and it helps you justify White mistreatment of Blacks - Good for you. The beautiful thing about all this crap is that White people write the history books. Blacks have never been able to tell their own stories. Sh*t, whites didn't want them to read or write.

A black man can't write the history on Europe so how can a white man write the history on Africa?

Riddle me that?

So, you are saying that the Muslim nations of East Africa and the Arabian peninsula did not enslave and sell millions of black slaves?

You are saying that an active slave trade does not go on in the Muslim nations of East Africa and the Arabian peninsula today?

You are saying that the British did not put a stop to the Muslim slave trade in East Africa?

You are saying that the millions of African slaves taken from West Africa were not enslaved by other African tribes and kingdoms?

You are saying that Western Europe and the United States sent large armies to Western Africa in order to enslave the millions of Africans who were sent to North and South America, Central America, and the Islands of the Caribbean?

Is that what you are saying?

Funny that you say I don't want black people to read and write since I was the senior tutor at the University of South Carolina for over a year and my main job was to help black students to improve their reading and writing skills so that they could pass the entrance exams. Most of these students were from the ghetto in Augusta Georgia.

[exstatman]

Let's just send this guy to Sharpton's office.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khuu-RhOBDU

[twtb19]

I don't really want to get into this racial debate because it never leads anywhere...I just want to say that as a person I think Sharpton is a complete jackass.

[swede96]

You're kidding aren't you?
This has got to be a joke...

Nope. Dead serious. There are scholarshipd out there that you must be a minotrity to apply for. You simply will not find one that you must be caucasian to apply for, because that would be racist.

[quote]Don't you mean "less" qualified?
"Fill their quota" of what? Your sentence was incomplete.[/qoute]

Yeah, that is what I meant. Goodie for you...you found a typo. Univesities fall under scrutiny if they don't have enough "minority" students attending.

Actually...
That was a BRILLIANT idea....

Posing as a stupid person to emphasize your point.

ingenious

You just don't make any sense. Learn your facts before you go around bitching at people. Many self proclaimed black leaders go around preaching about equal rights when what they really want is special treatment...payback for what they went through hundreds of years ago. HOW are things ever going to be equal when these "leaders" are stuffing the division between races down everyone's throats. Sharpton and the people like him don't want equality or peace between all races. They would be out of a job if everyone got along. THEY are the ones fostering racism.

[swede96]

White people know that they owe Black people for slavery and they’re not interested in paying out any reparations. Four hundred years of free labor built North America into a global powerhouse that Blacks have never really had a chance to enjoy (between the KKK, racial profiling, Jim Crow, red-lining, job discrimination, etc... it's a never-ending cycle of White hate).

Umm, I'm white as white can be and I can honestly say I don't owe anyone anything for slavery. My ancestors never owned slaves of any kind (unless you count my Swedish grandparents pumping out kids to work on the family farm for free). There is a ton of black hate out there too, willieback. Whte people aren't the only one's that form groups to hate other races. I'm not saying it's right. I find the KKK disgusting...but whites aren't the only ones with groups of that nature.

[Robyn]

Keeping racism alive and well is the way Sharpton and Jackson have ensured their job security.

I am still waiting for them to apologize to the Duke lacrosse players.

[Robyn]

Good lord, this has turned into a cock fighting contest. I can't read through this BS.

The only thing I have to say, and this is by far not a racist remark...what about the American Indians who lived on the land before the "evil" white man murdered and pretty much destroyed their civilizations? Why don't we see Reverend Whitecloud Featherdancer standing up for THAT atrocity and injustice?

Casino reparations are an insult in comparison to what happened to the inhabitants of the United States before the Europeans "discovered" the land.

So if anyone has the right to bitch and moan, I would say American Indians have a pretty strong case.

[thegreatdiatchi]

I think the first verse or Iron Maiden's "Run Through The Hills" sums it all up as far as what DID happen here.

As far as what should happen the only way to end racism is to drop the topic completely.

[willyback]

Umm, I'm white as white can be and I can honestly say I don't owe anyone anything for slavery. My ancestors never owned slaves of any kind (unless you count my Swedish grandparents pumping out kids to work on the family farm for free). There is a ton of black hate out there too, willieback. Whte people aren't the only one's that form groups to hate other races. I'm not saying it's right. I find the KKK disgusting...but whites aren't the only ones with groups of that nature.

Here's Sweden's contribution to the African Slave trade...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_slave_trade

[willyback]

Umm, I'm white as white can be and I can honestly say I don't owe anyone anything for slavery. My ancestors never owned slaves of any kind (unless you count my Swedish grandparents pumping out kids to work on the family farm for free). There is a ton of black hate out there too, willieback. Whte people aren't the only one's that form groups to hate other races. I'm not saying it's right. I find the KKK disgusting...but whites aren't the only ones with groups of that nature.

All people with European ancestry have benefited from the exploitation of Africa and the enslavement of Africans. That's a fact - accept it. You can twist the finer details with Euro-logic forever, but the fact still remains.

Africa has more natural resources than any other continent on earth (certainly more than Europe). How is it that there are only two black billionaires in Forbes Magazine and they're both media moguls? Africa should be the world's superpower. What could you sell to Africa that it's not capable of producing on it's own?

How did Europe magically become so rich? Does Europe have oil? Does Europe have gold mines? Does Europe grow coffee?

NO.

[willyback]

Keeping racism alive and well is the way Sharpton and Jackson have ensured their job security.

I am still waiting for them to apologize to the Duke lacrosse players.

Blacks are still waiting for an apology for slavery (not that they'll ever get one). Forget reparations - whites haven't even apologized yet (not that it matters at this point). Duke's lacrosse players are white and rich - they'll be just fine.

[willyback]

Jewish people get all types of special treatment in America and nobody complains about them. Bill Clinton forced the German companies that benefited from free Jewsih labor during the Holocaust to pay them (reporations) for their work. The US subsidizes the Isreali military.

Little known fact...

Number one and two welfare recipients in New York City are Chinese and Jewish people.

Give me a break!

Black people built this country from the ground-up and they get no credit, no respect, no apology, no reporations... the list goes on and on.

[willyback]

Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are not black leaders. You want to know why? They're still alive... (lol).

Dr. King (real threat) DEAD
Malcolm X (real threat) DEAD
Sam Cooke (real threat) DEAD
Lumumba (real threat) DEAD

the list goes on and on...

[willyback]

no responses... (figures)

Come-on... Curious, Swede96 - "where u at?"

[SchlepRock]

Time to get over that CRYBABY SHIT. We all had our problems at onetime or another.

[Robyn]

Blacks are still waiting for an apology for slavery. Forget reporations - whites haven't even apologized yet. Duke's lacrosse players are white and rich - they'll be just fine.

Living in the biggest suefest country of the world, it is obvious that nothing comes without a cost. I am sure the government knows that by apologizing for anything, they open themselves up to all kinds of trouble (and that includes reparations).

p.s. what do whites have to apologize for? For being white? To the best of my knowledge, my german and french canadian relatives didn't own slaves. But even if they did, why should I have to apologize for something they did?

p.p.s. why don't african americans demand an apology from their fellow african brothers for selling them to the evil white man in the first place?

[Robyn]

Little known fact...

Number one and two welfare recipients in New York City are Chinese and Jewish people.

Not to challenge your knowledge of the subject at hand, but please direct me to a government link that provides these demographics you speak of.

[willyback]

Time to get over that CRYBABY SHIT. We all had our problems at onetime or another.

When?

[willyback]

Living in the biggest suefest country of the world, it is obvious that nothing comes without a cost. I am sure the government knows that by apologizing for anything, they open themselves up to all kinds of trouble (and that includes reparations).

p.s. what do whites have to apologize for? For being white? To the best of my knowledge, my german and french canadian relatives didn't own slaves. But even if they did, why should I have to apologize for something they did?

p.p.s. why don't african americans demand an apology from their fellow african brothers for selling them to the evil white man in the first place?

I said nothing about an apology. I don't care one way or the other. Doesn't mean sh*t to me.

Most of the black people that I talk to just want a reasonable check for their ancestors' pain and place to live without white people. Sorry to be so blunt, but it's the truth.

[Deuce]

I don't owe anyone shit. You fucks owe me. My people were treated worse then the Africans. My people were over here in America being treated as slaves while the Africans were still running around with face paint chasing zebras. The Irish built America on its back and get no credit for it.

In no way shape or form am I saying the African slave use or trade was called for or am I condoning it. I don't feel anyone is owed anything though. It was centuries ago and no one from the era is still around today. The unfortunate circumstances of our past generations are fueling racism today with the radical bullshit Jackson, Sharpton, etc... foam at the mouth with. I don't really feel like starting a race battle here but with the NAACP, Black History Month, BET, etc... if the Caucasian Americans were to have any of those is any such way shape or form, we would be automatically deemed racists. For the record I have many African American friends and they agree with me so don't jump at me calling me a racist either. I'm stating facts.

[willyback]

I don't owe anyone shit. You fucks owe me. My people were treated worse then the Africans. My people were over here in America being treated as slaves while the Africans were still running around with face paint chasing zebras. The Irish built America on its back and get no credit for it.

In no way shape or form am I saying the African slave use or trade was called for or am I condoning it. I don't feel anyone is owed anything though. It was centuries ago and no one from the era is still around today. The unfortunate circumstances of our past generations are fueling racism today with the radical bullshit Jackson, Sharpton, etc... foam at the mouth with. I don't really feel like starting a race battle here but with the NAACP, Black History Month, BET, etc... if the Caucasian Americans were to have any of those is any such way shape or form, we would be automatically deemed racists. For the record I have many African American friends and they agree with me so don't jump at me calling me a racist either. I'm stating facts.

The Irish built America... LOL . What a joke. You should do stand-up.

[willyback]

Black people would try and go back to Africa to be to themselves, but your darn white people just seem to be everywhere.

[willyback]

Why is that??? Europe's a pretty big continent.

[willyback]

Why did you feel the need to come to Africa? Since they're just running around with Zebras and Sh*t? What could Africa possibly have to offer the great civilizations of Europe?

[Deuce]

The Irish built America... LOL . What a joke. You should do stand-up.

You need to read some American history books then.

Start with this one first...

[Robyn]

I said nothing about an apology. I don't care one way or the other. Does mean sh*t to me.

Uh, yes you did (see below). You are silly.

Blacks are still waiting for an apology for slavery. Forget reporations - whites haven't even apologized yet. Duke's lacrosse players are white and rich - they'll be just fine.

Most of the black people that I talk to just want a reasonable check for their ancestors' pain and place to live without white people. Sorry to be so blunt, but it's the truth.

Black people are funny! I wish I were black.

[Robyn]

Black people would try and go back to Africa to be to themselves, but your darn white people just seem to be everywhere.

Are you sure that your name isn't willyblack?

You're funny. Would you like to pet my vulture?

[Robyn]

Willy Black, will you go with me?

[willyback]

Willy Black, will you go with me?

"Mrs. Robynson, are you trying to seduce me?"