Tressel stepping down from Ohio State?

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  • BiffTFinancial
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-29-09
    • 22670

    #36
    Originally posted by utmoody10
    I dont feel sorry for these kids because they are being "exploited" by not being able to make money. The fact is that many of these kids have been given an opportunity to receive an education that a lot would never be able to A) afford or B) even qualify for under regular admission standards. They live in the nicest dorms, have access to the best facilities, eat the best food and have been placed on a pedestal by ESPN and other media outlets. Once these kids get out of college, go nuts and sell everything that you want. If they start paying for play in turn the basketball team will then be clamoring for cash, UCONN womens team would like some compensation for their 89 game winning streak, the South Carolina baseball team brought USC their first national championship in a major sport, do they deserve a little payback as well? Does Pryor need to make more money than the left guard? These kids would be placed in a bidding war and then it is basically professional football. While many of these schools do make money off of football it is in turn used to pay for all of the other non revenue producing sports and then you have many Universities that are struggling to fill half of their stadium who would never be able to pay their players. There are more questions than there are answers for compensating these players and Im sure Mr. Pryor wasnt in the poor house before OSU and he wont be because OSU held him back.
    as an OSU fan, i'm disappointed in the players, as i believe that they knew that what they were doing violated the rules (regardless of my feelings re: the rules), and breaking rules knowingly is just, well, stupid and incredibly selfish. that said, i'm a huge NCAA and BCS apologist, but the NCAA is heading down a very bad road in intellectual property/right to likeness/personal property rights litigation with this ruling. the O'Bannon lawsuit will prevail, and this will be a milepost towards the NCAA's big loss there. while i understand that, fundamentally, Title IX will not allow schools to play athletes in revenue-producing sports (i.e., OSU can't compensate Pryor without doing the same for, say, women's swimmers), you simply cannot give someone something (and, btw, in some cases, postseason gifts and awards even have a taxable component), and then tell them after the fact that they cannot sell it. that is so fundamental to our legal system as to be axiomatic.

    i wish that i knew where all of this was heading, and i wish that the players had better taste that to sell some of this stuff (which, btw, is was bothers Tressel the most - the notion that anyone would sell a Big Ten championship ring, he's such a purist). to the person who questions why the players aren't suspended immediately for the bowl, it's because there would've been an injunction filed regarding this very real legal issue as to how you can give someone something then tell them years later, "oh, by the way, it's not really yours, you can't sell it." and, of course, the NCAA wants them to play in the Sugar Bowl because their absence would hurt a vital NCAA product. this is hardly the last chapter on this issue, at least from a property rights perspective.
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    • str
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 01-12-09
      • 11801

      #37
      What a waste of red sweaters that would be.
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      • Punter4Life
        SBR High Roller
        • 11-20-10
        • 175

        #38
        Let's start a RUMOR now he's going to take over for Rich Rod while we're at it. I find it humorious the suspensions are for NEXT SEASON - what kind of garbage is that? If/since they are guilty, shouldn't the penalty occur NOW?
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        • BiffTFinancial
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-29-09
          • 22670

          #39
          Originally posted by Punter4Life
          Let's start a RUMOR now he's going to take over for Rich Rod while we're at it. I find it humorious the suspensions are for NEXT SEASON - what kind of garbage is that? If/since they are guilty, shouldn't the penalty occur NOW?
          i guess that i have to repeat myself:

          "to the person who questions why the players aren't suspended immediately for the bowl, it's because there would've been an injunction filed regarding this very real legal issue as to how you can give someone something then tell them years later, "oh, by the way, it's not really yours, you can't sell it." and, of course, the NCAA wants them to play in the Sugar Bowl because their absence would hurt a vital NCAA product. this is hardly the last chapter on this issue, at least from a property rights perspective."

          to put it another way, they realize that it's a completely BS rule and that they'd lose if ever taken to court over it. the NCAA would've spent the jewel of their athletic calendar (bowl season) getting embarrassed in court. how much do you want to bet that the rule is tweaked, a new athlete education initiative undertaken, and the suspensions halved by September?
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          • Punter4Life
            SBR High Roller
            • 11-20-10
            • 175

            #40
            Originally posted by BiffTFinancial
            i guess that i have to repeat myself:

            "to the person who questions why the players aren't suspended immediately for the bowl, it's because there would've been an injunction filed regarding this very real legal issue as to how you can give someone something then tell them years later, "oh, by the way, it's not really yours, you can't sell it." and, of course, the NCAA wants them to play in the Sugar Bowl because their absence would hurt a vital NCAA product. this is hardly the last chapter on this issue, at least from a property rights perspective."

            to put it another way, they realize that it's a completely BS rule and that they'd lose if ever taken to court over it. the NCAA would've spent the jewel of their athletic calendar (bowl season) getting embarrassed in court. how much to you want to bet that the rule is tweaked, a new athlete education initiative undertaken, and the suspensions halved by September?
            Just thinking aloud Biff and already know it's all about the almighty dollar.

            It wouldn't surprise me - they love the Buckeye's and what their fans spend in whatever bowl game they attend.
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            • BiffTFinancial
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-29-09
              • 22670

              #41
              Originally posted by Punter4Life
              Just thinking aloud Biff and already know it's all about the almighty dollar. It wouldn't surprise me - they love the Buckeye's and what their fans spend in whatever bowl game they attend.
              well, the almighty dollar and the almighty lawyers. the NCAA losing the O'Bannon suit (at least prospectively) is a 5* Pick. all they would do by suspending these players now is hasten the process and put the spotlight on that issue when they want it on the bowls. frankly, if there hadn't been a leak, i don't think that the NCAA would've done anything until later in January.

              have a good day, boys. off to Browns-Ravens (why, i have no idea - day of drinking, i suppose).
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              • yisman
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 09-01-08
                • 75682

                #42
                made up rumor, let it die
                [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                [/quote]

                [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                • wookieehumper
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 11-09-09
                  • 355

                  #43
                  Tressel is not going to the browns. I love the guy, but a pro coach he is not
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                  • ShamsWoof10
                    SBR MVP
                    • 11-15-06
                    • 4827

                    #44
                    I am an Ohio State hater but he's one of the best coaches in college football...

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                    • bradthebloke
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-26-09
                      • 3175

                      #45
                      no way he leaves. good at coverring spreads too
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                      • jackmyhoggoff
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 07-20-10
                        • 840

                        #46
                        Originally posted by BiffTFinancial
                        this is precisely the kind of howl-at-the-moon, caps lock idiocy that i described (complete with media conspiracy theory, the hallmark of the mongoloid). yeah, too bad we'll never get to see Ohio State play Oregon, genius (unless you count 11 months ago). posts like this make me want to go online and buy as much OSU merchandise as possible.
                        GET it BOUGHT it's ON SALE NOW !!
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                        • BiffTFinancial
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-29-09
                          • 22670

                          #47
                          Originally posted by jackmyhoggoff
                          GET it BOUGHT it's ON SALE NOW !!
                          thanks for underscoring my point. "get it bought"? is English your first language? if not, please say so, i don't want to pick on some poor immigrant just trying to make his way in the world.
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                          • podunk
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-12-09
                            • 3455

                            #48
                            he's a god in columbus. he's not going anywhere for awhile.
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                            • revnecro1273
                              SBR MVP
                              • 10-25-09
                              • 1698

                              #49
                              would be awesome
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                              • RPP
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 09-07-09
                                • 650

                                #50
                                Hogs are going to win the Sugar Bowl. Tressel will want to leave after a third ass kicking from the SEC lol.
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                                • ShamsWoof10
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-15-06
                                  • 4827

                                  #51
                                  All of the negative publicity has me thinking about putting a huge chunk on the buckeyes...

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