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  • TPowell
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    • 02-21-08
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    #71
    Ryan you are seriously ignorant about UConn.
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    • ryanXL977
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      • 02-24-08
      • 20615

      #72
      memphis lost to tennesee dude
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      • ryanXL977
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        • 02-24-08
        • 20615

        #73
        memphis beat tenn eh¿ i missed that
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        • MJFtheGenius
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          • 05-31-07
          • 7257

          #74
          Originally posted by rjt721
          First, RPI is completely useless. If you can't see that, I don't know what to tell you, but you need to strongly reconsider the methods with which you evaluate teams.

          You can blindly look at UNC's record and assume they're the best team in the country (as many do), or you can look at their many deficiencies - they don't consistently defend, they lack depth, and Hansbrough's considerably less effective when matched up against an athletic big who can neutralize his own average athleticism. They also played in the most overrated conference in the country, and are extremely fortunate to have only have 2 losses - Clemson handed them both meetings, and Davidson and BYU both outplayed them much of the game in non-conference play.

          Considering they're the No. 1 team in the country, only 1 team needs to be better for UNC to be accurately labeled overrated. I'll give you 2 - UCLA and Kansas are both better than UNC.

          That's the dumbest shit I have read on this forum. UCLA Kansas memphis all had their games they could have lost too. Every team you could say that have a weakness. Everyone is now dumber after reading your post RJ, thanks alot. Clemson did not hand it too them, UNC simply turned it on when they needed to. I know buddy I watched the games.
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          • MJFtheGenius
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            • 05-31-07
            • 7257

            #75
            Originally posted by TPowell
            I didnt even sample Memphis

            Memphis has beat:
            Georgetown (Top 10)
            Tennessee (Top 10)
            UConn (Top 15)
            My bad, Memphis beat 3. They beat Gonzaga too.
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            • TPowell
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 02-21-08
              • 18842

              #76
              whoops had Gonzaga and Tenn. messed up my bad... anyway its 3
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              • ryanXL977
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                • 02-24-08
                • 20615

                #77
                you said gonzaga is overrated dude
                or someone did
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                • MJFtheGenius
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                  • 05-31-07
                  • 7257

                  #78
                  same as UNC
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                  • MJFtheGenius
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                    • 05-31-07
                    • 7257

                    #79
                    UConn is overrated, they only play 4 men on defense, any team that has shooters can cosistently beat Uconn.
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                    • ryanXL977
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                      • 02-24-08
                      • 20615

                      #80
                      look, my top 4 are unc, ucla, utexas, and ithought gtown, but i guess i will keep em in there.
                      those are mine, tpowell likes other teams. we shall agree to disagree. nobody is right or wrong, i know that.

                      i am cheering for texas i guess. and unc bc i like roy williams
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                      • TPowell
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                        • 02-21-08
                        • 18842

                        #81
                        yeah but its near IMPOSSIBLE to score inside on UConn because of Thabeet and Co.
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                        • ryanXL977
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                          • 02-24-08
                          • 20615

                          #82
                          roy hibbert is so much better than thabeet. he has a long ass head
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                          • TPowell
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 02-21-08
                            • 18842

                            #83
                            you sir are terribly wrong. What did Padgett do against Hibbert? What did he do against UConn?
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                            • MJFtheGenius
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 05-31-07
                              • 7257

                              #84
                              So at least we ended the "UNC has beaten no ranked teams" bullshiit today
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                              • TPowell
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                                • 02-21-08
                                • 18842

                                #85
                                I dont think I ever said that. They'e just beaten trash ACC ranked teams. Pitt beat Duke on a neutral court as well
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                                • MJFtheGenius
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 05-31-07
                                  • 7257

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by TPowell
                                  yeah but its near IMPOSSIBLE to score inside on UConn because of Thabeet and Co.
                                  only because one of them stand underneath the basket the entire game. Uconns perimeter defenders are not good enough to cope with that.
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                                  • MJFtheGenius
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 05-31-07
                                    • 7257

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by TPowell
                                    Memphis
                                    Kansas
                                    UCLA
                                    Georgetown
                                    Louisville
                                    Stanford

                                    How many ranked teams has UNC beat?
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                                    • TPowell
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                                      • 02-21-08
                                      • 18842

                                      #88
                                      live by the 3, die by the 3 MJF....... most die
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                                      • MJFtheGenius
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 05-31-07
                                        • 7257

                                        #89
                                        I don't care about Duke.
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                                        • TPowell
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                                          • 02-21-08
                                          • 18842

                                          #90
                                          I was talking about how many ranked wins they had compared to the others, I watched them beat DUke
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                                          • MJFtheGenius
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                                            • 05-31-07
                                            • 7257

                                            #91
                                            Yea i know but we clarified that most of the other elite teams beat the same or less ranked teams.
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                                            • rjt721
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 02-06-07
                                              • 7929

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by MJFtheGenius
                                              That's the dumbest shit I have read on this forum. UCLA Kansas memphis all had their games they could have lost too. Every team you could say that have a weakness. Everyone is now dumber after reading your post RJ, thanks alot. Clemson did not hand it too them, UNC simply turned it on when they needed to. I know buddy I watched the games.
                                              This is so ridiculous. The whole overrated/underrated debate is entirely subjective.

                                              When UNC fails to reach the Final Four, will you do this entire forum a favor and stop posting here (something you have promised to do before, only to renege on your word and return to repeatedly make an ass of yourself)?

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                                              • babaoriley
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 12-11-06
                                                • 2316

                                                #93
                                                Again, big "If" but consider:
                                                IF UT beats Kansas tomorrow, they will have the following resume against quality teams:
                                                W by 15 @ a NM St. team going into triple OT in the WAC championship as we speak
                                                W by 19 vs. Tennessee
                                                W by 2 @ UCLA (Pac-10 Champ)
                                                W by 10 vs. Oral Roberts (Summit Champ)
                                                L by 1 to Wisconsin (on a last second 3 by Flowers)
                                                L by 6 @ Mich St. in which they were outshot 49% to 39%
                                                3 W's over Ok. St.
                                                3 W's over Oklahoma by 10, 17 and 28
                                                2 W's over Baylor by 8 and 5
                                                a 17 point L at A&M which was avenged by a 27 point W at UT
                                                a 9 point W @ K. St
                                                And...
                                                Assuming they can handle Kansas tomorrow:
                                                2 W's against Kansas

                                                Now, how is that NOT a #1 seed?
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                                                • MJFtheGenius
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 05-31-07
                                                  • 7257

                                                  #94
                                                  I have sparked lots of interest in this forum, good and bad and I am sole the reason why the AIC women are here which has brought more interest and drama here at SBR.

                                                  No I don'tknow if UNC is going to reach the final. I have to wait until the braket comes out. Just like your gambling RJ it sounds like you do no research. You just ramble on "RPI means nothing". Hey genius guess what the RPI has a huge impact what teams will play in this tourney and the seeding.
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                                                  • MJFtheGenius
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                                                    • 05-31-07
                                                    • 7257

                                                    #95
                                                    Baba I am pretty sure no one here has a problem with texas getting a #1 if they beat kansas tommorow.
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                                                    • TPowell
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                                                      • 02-21-08
                                                      • 18842

                                                      #96
                                                      They play the games on the court, not the computer
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                                                      • MJFtheGenius
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 05-31-07
                                                        • 7257

                                                        #97
                                                        Tell that to the committee
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                                                        • TPowell
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 02-21-08
                                                          • 18842

                                                          #98
                                                          at the end of the day, the game isnt won on the computers though, am I right?
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                                                          • MJFtheGenius
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 05-31-07
                                                            • 7257

                                                            #99
                                                            Yes but every team can't play every team. Matchups is the key.
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                                                            • TPowell
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 02-21-08
                                                              • 18842

                                                              #100
                                                              true but rpi isn't a huge deal to non bubble teams
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                                                              • babaoriley
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 12-11-06
                                                                • 2316

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by MJFtheGenius
                                                                Baba I am pretty sure no one here has a problem with texas getting a #1 if they beat kansas tommorow.
                                                                According to ESPN, the outcome of tomorrow's game will not have any bearing on the committee. The article was presumably written before Tennessee lost to Arkansas, but that's the last update I read.
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                                                                • MJFtheGenius
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 05-31-07
                                                                  • 7257

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by babaoriley
                                                                  According to ESPN, the outcome of tomorrow's game will not have any bearing on the committee. The article was presumably written before Tennessee lost to Arkansas, but that's the last update I read.
                                                                  Oh I was not aware, in that case they are unlikely to get that 1 seed.
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                                                                  • YoungMoney23
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 01-02-08
                                                                    • 627

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Kent State!!!
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                                                                    • purecarnagge
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 10-05-07
                                                                      • 4843

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Drake is over rated and under rated all at the same time...

                                                                      Drake lacks a good post player. On the other hand they shoot the ball very well from ALL OVER the court. They have 4 guys on the floor that you have to guard out to the 3 point line. That makes things dicey... but they are soft in the post.

                                                                      Depending on who they play if there isn't a strong post player, I would take drake. They are ran by Tom Davis son, Tom davis use to consistantly take Iowa to the tournament, and he did that by running a up tempo athletic pressure style game. He would full court press, and get the transition game going very well. This was also Iowa's downfall was getting back on D.

                                                                      Drake is molded the same way...Just at a lower tier school. Look for them to win there first game.
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                                                                      • awhitejackson
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 11-15-07
                                                                        • 2265

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by MJFtheGenius
                                                                        UCLA has also beaten only 3.
                                                                        No padding stats here.....Ucla has only beaten 3 ranked teams..but two of them they have beaten multiple times...Stanford (top ten all year) they beat 3 times...Wash St. (top 25 all year) they beat twice...Ucla comes out of easily the toughest conference in college basketball..UNC is good but thier record has been helped by a joke ACC conference with only three worthy competitors this year...Who do you even represent?? Do you even have a team??? Not saying that you need to but you like taking cheap shots when you see someone in here who actually shows their support for a team good or bad.....
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