Changes to the SBR point system: Effective Feb 15

[OmgUrMom]

well said dozer

[Richkas]

It doesnt stop the fraud. People can just bet both sides of a game.

[Optional]

I was suggesting an exception to the point transfer restriction could be made for posters who are dedicated members and thus are most likely not scammers/ghosts.

And that's good. But there are much better ways to do that without restricting it to only people who make lots of posts. ;-)

[OmgUrMom]

It doesnt stop the fraud. People can just bet both sides of a game.

[chachi]

No wonder SBR didn't give a flying f... about stiffs screwing over lenders, SBR was planning on slitting the lenders throats themselves.
I for one probably won't go pro, and I've got 5 figures in various accounts including a few SBR sponsors.

Why does that seem surprising, I cannot be the only one with large sums in play who has not 'gone pro' ...

My neighbour and I bet/trade together as a team. The european/asian accounts are in my name (as they were all long-standing accts) and the new us-facing accounts we have opened are in his name.

I cannot claim 'pro credit' for having a grand in Pinny or Greek in his name [ or at least I do not think so ] and I didn't want my friend to sign up here just to have him shovel me points [ he does not 'do' forums]

I can't be bothered to open a new account in my name solely to 'go pro' as I won't use it as for most of my activity ( 80% ish soccer ) the odds at the sponsor books (save Pinny) are crap and we already have the accounts we need with the sponsors for now.

If this whole regime change included some sort of comeback for the douchebag point stiffs / thieves it might make more sense, but SBR have already shown that they don't give a rat's ass about how members treat each other as long as you don't abuse another member in a post with 4 letter words.

Rip someone off for a few thousand points, no problem. Call someone a cunt, well now that's a different situation altogether

[shari91]

Chachi, I'm not trying to be a bitch and I hope you don't take it that way, but why care this much about points if you have 5 figures in several books? Even if SBR scrapped the whole point system tomorrow, I'd still be here just as much as I am now and nothing about my forum experience would change. I don't remember signing a contract with SBR where they promised me X amount of free stuff in exchange for my participation. I wonder how many others feel the same way? And maybe that's a little bit of the point here.

[MBENZ]

Chachi, I'm not trying to be a bitch and I hope you don't take it that way, but why care this much about points if you have 5 figures in several books? Even if SBR scrapped the whole point system tomorrow, I'd still be here just as much as I am now and nothing about my forum experience would change. I don't remember signing a contract with SBR where they promised me X amount of free stuff in exchange for my participation. I wonder how many others feel the same way? And maybe that's a little bit of the point here.

Good points.Many of us were here long before this point thing was around.If it was gone tommorow I don't think a whole lot would leave.As it is now,if it does the site good and rewards the posters great,if it ends,great too.SBR would just have to work a little harder for signups.Most here had money in the books long before the point system and never had to deposit anything to become Pro,I think alot don't understand that.

[jjgold]

Good move Walker

I know now why you sent me to Ocala

Too many fukkin free loaders here

[chachi]

Hahahah .... not at all Shari

I didnt say I was not going to participate/be a member anymore, I mean I didnt even really pay attention to the points thing until maybe the last 4-5 months. To me the points are simply an extra bit of added fun here, Ive got a nice cap and mug (which arrived with a broken handle unfortunately) out of them and had some fun betting on this and that with them.

To me its moreso just the principle of the whole thing ... here you can be a completely amiable person with good posts and valued input and yet rip people off for points left, right and center and the admins could care less, or even be a historic multiple acct point thief and somehow get pts usage reinstated, just don't dare call someone a bad name even if the phrase 'if the shoe fits ... ' applies in spades.

It seems the rule is 'go ahead and be dishonest, be a thief, be whatever, just be sure to be polite'

Gambling is and always has been based upon honor as each side's obligation is paramount to a betting contract. Once honor and integrity are out the window or deemed irrelevant, to me something is lost.

With regards to loans/stiffs, I think they cannot sit on the fence as they have tried to ... either ban the practice outright, or show they do take members interests to heart and have there be a 'points forum mod' with investigative powers and such. The whole 'we will not get involved except to prevent you in any way from attempting to collect on an outstanding balance' to me is a wuss out.

[aceking]

trixtrix should return all his points , sbr is going chapter 11

[chachi]

[BigOrangeBrother]

Oh well.....so much for playing by the rules!!

[shari91]

That was actually an awesome response chachi and there's many aspects of it that I totally agree with. I wish this whole points loan thing would be rectified somehow and I actually remember there being talk of a neutral committee made up of posters being set up to arbitrate when situations arise but I'm not sure what came of that idea.

As far as integrity and those being rewarded with points when they have displayed behavior that no one would describe as honorable, I can only hope that the scum eventually rises to the surface and gets ladled out for good so the rest of us can go on doing the right thing. We're nothing if our word means nothing and unfortunately some people think hiding behind a computer absolved them of that. They'll learn - the world is a cruel place to people like that.

All the best chachi, may all of your bets be winners and happy holidays!

[chachi]

That was actually an awesome response chachi and there's many aspects of it that I totally agree with. I wish this whole points loan thing would be rectified somehow and I actually remember there being talk of a neutral committee made up of posters being set up to arbitrate when situations arise but I'm not sure what came of that idea.

I'd happily assist and act as a points 'cop' in that subforum to eradicate such behavior but pretty sure that concept was mooted the moment it was raised a few months back when I think it was Mex who was suggested.

As far as integrity and those being rewarded with points when they have displayed behavior that no one would describe as honorable, I can only hope that the scum eventually rises to the surface and gets ladled out for good so the rest of us can go on doing the right thing. We're nothing if our word means nothing and unfortunately some people think hiding behind a computer absolved them of that. They'll learn - the world is a cruel place to people like that.

The boldfaced bit is unfortunately part and parcel with any online forum really

All the best chachi, may all of your bets be winners and happy holidays!

And to you and yours as well ...

[jjgold]

This thread.........OH MY

Worrying about 6 cents per point

Great move WALKER, show them your the man here

[MBENZ]

This thread.........OH MY

Worrying about 6 cents per point

Great move WALKER, show them your the man here

Put a sock in it Grandmaster J.

[chico2663]

why would someone want to eat that nasty ass pizza. There isn't enough tea in china for that. I plan on going pro after feb anyway. I do want to say I love this sight. I am a degenerate gambler who has lost a couple jobs because of this. I lost over 30 thousand last year because of this problem. This site has pissed my bookie off and my family happy. I have won a football contest with 500 people in it picking 3 games aweek in the nfl. I just have a problem with to many games and no money management. God bless sbr.

[Boner_18]

Decent changes, good notice. Thanks for all the fabulous and generous free stuff (including contests).

[chico2663]

also I my brother who isn't degenerate join. think this is a great site. I have been a member of rx for 15 years but have found no reason to go back since I have found this site.

[bdevil]

I can't understand a thing with becoming a pro thing. Why is it a problem to most of the guys ? You deposit 200 $ with no bonus, register as a Pro in SBR and the in case you need the money back, why you don't withdraw ?

[geebert74]

Thanks Bill, Going to have to go pro now... Thank though! We appreciate all SBR gives us!

[saintjames]

what are poster to poster points bets and how do they work?

[trixtrix]

trixtrix should return all his points , sbr is going chapter 11

let's see:

throughout the history of sbr pts store, poster "aceking" has traded/cashed in an aggregate sum of 4061 sbr pts for personal gain.

meanwhile, in the same timeframe, poster "trixtrix" has traded/cashed in a total of 1405 sbr pts, some of which were a donation to haiti relief fund.

obviously, if anyone is "breaking" the sbr pts store, it is the poster "aceking" who has traded almost 4x as many sbr pts than "trixtrix"

but don't let facts get in the way of a good story..

[big0mar]

eliminate points

this is a gambling forum not Dave and Busters

[Grits n' Gravy]

let's see:

throughout the history of sbr pts store, poster "aceking" has traded/cashed in an aggregate sum of 4061 sbr pts for personal gain.

meanwhile, in the same timeframe, poster "trixtrix" has traded/cashed in a total of 1405 sbr pts, some of which were a donation to haiti relief fund.

obviously, if anyone is "breaking" the sbr pts store, it is the poster "aceking" who has traded almost 4x as many sbr pts than "trixtrix"

but don't let facts get in the way of a good story..

you shouldn't have to explain to anyone what you do with the points you've won/earned. nice work on 80k. guessing your book has been hating life as of late....lol

[jjgold]

Get rid of points program period

We need real gamblers here not fake ones

[Dirty Sanchez]

Get rid of points program period

We need real gamblers here not fake ones

NO WAY...where else can you get legendary jj Gold goggles and the Lostache?

[WvGambler]

What JJ said

[jjgold]

Well how about this

Anyone that complains about points gets one deducted each time

[Grits n' Gravy]

Well how about this

Anyone that complains about points gets one deducted each time

[pavyracer]

Get rid of points program period

We need real gamblers here not fake ones

Well how about this

Anyone that complains about points gets one deducted each time

[macoeric]

boo-urns

[aceking]

trixtrix isn't on a tear. He is just extremely competent at exploiting sportsbook mispricings and weaknesses. If you do nothing, he will continue his current trend.

Hardly a stalemate.

Status quo: everytime you wack the SBRbook, I look at what you did and fix it. Eventually, the only value you'll have is picking off slow-moving lines. It will be a very slow bleed until SBR decides to fix it.

SBR does appreciate all your help in fixing money leaks.

The problem with this is that SBR Book is offered as a service to the SBR members. SBR Book is not for profit. SBR Book doesn't make any money (like the real cash sportbooks you can shop at and exploit weaknesses). So if the SBR Book is indefinitely being exploited for mispricings and weaknesses two things will happen. They will either close the SBR Book or dramatically increase the prices at the SBR Store. And then you will end up with 1000 pissed off members and one happy winner who exploited the mispricings and the weaknesses of the SBR book.

we are all paying for one greedy person ?

[pavyracer]

we are all paying for one greedy person ?

I predicted this last week and people were all making fun of me. Guess who is laughing now!

[trixtrix]

Lol. Says aceking who has exchanged 4x as many pts as I ever did.

We are all paying for acekings greed obviously!