Do you smoke cigarettes?

[charlie64]

I played football all through college,and I still started smoking about 12 years ago.
Marlboro Menthols(now the store I buy them at has buy one get them free all the time.) I wish I had never started.I use to only smoke when I would go out drinking,then I got married I basically quit drinking (except on work conventions) but I still smoke.

[Arnold]

Would you say the same thing about alcohol?

I could. I don't drink either, unless you count a glass of wine/champagne on a special occasion.

[BrentCrude]

If you aren't a fussy smoker

Stick it to the man and buy your cigs online.If you go to www.indiansmokesonline.com you will find a good selection of sub generic filter 100's like Seneca's and a few more that are just as good as Basic's or Doral's.I used to order them for family members and they all liked them.It used to be where they were $9 a carton a few years back but they might be $12 or so now.I think they add $2 per shipping and you have to buy 5 cartons.UPS delivers them to your door.It used to be up until a year or two where you could pay over the phone with a credit card but now I think you have to send them a check or money order.They are an Indian tribe located in upstate New York.They have been around for years and have always been the best and most reliable of all the online Indian tobacco sellers.

[swede96]

The difference with alcohol is: it´s cheaper, by a lot if you compare what you get for your money.
And also getting drunk is fun, if you smoke 40 cigs is that fun?

Yes.

You know what's NOT fun? Me when I don't get my nicotine.

[swede96]

Cigarettes are the reason for 1 out of every 5 deaths per year. Alcohol doesn't even come close to that. Comparing cigarettes to alcohol, is like comparing marijuana to crack.

That's because every case of lung cancer is attributed to cigs. If they attributed every death as a result of live failure to drinking, the numbers might be a little more even. Furthermore, if someone is smoking and you don't want to deal with it, you have the option to walk away. If you're driving along, minding your own business and a drunk driver blows through a red light, you don't have the option. Big difference.

[swede96]

I didnt know posts had sound. You must have a special way of decoding sound from text. congrats. I'm not bitter. Just think smokers r trash. I dont like my $200 sweater to smell like smoke after I spend 5 minutes next to Joe Trailer Trash in public. I also dont need his crap hyundai next to my escalade. I guess i have to be exact with you imgv. I dont want you scamming me for money. Of course not all smokers r loooosers. Just 98% of them. You happy. For the most part it shows mental deficiency. Ever been in a smokers car? ****in ghetttttto. I like my escalade smelling like the fine leather its draped in. WCP 4 life. Smokers r trash. Except weed smokers. You guys are cool.

Yeah, so does bitching about having to share the road with cars that may not be as expensive as yours and feeling the need to tell everyone how much you spend on your clothes.

$200 or $5...I don't like any of my clothes smelling like smoke, but I'm not ready to quit, so I deal.

[swede96]

In case you can't tell, yes, I smoke. Marlboro Lights. I HATE menthol. I don't care how bad I need my fix, I won't smoke one. Due to recent events, I'm up to about a pack a day. I have a doctor's appointment tomorrow where I will hopefully be perscriped Chantix. I've heard it's good stuff.

Of course, this means that as soon as next week I could be nicotine free. If you all value your lives, you'll be very very nice to me.

P.S. Taco is in my top 5 favorite people on this board after the smoking is cool comment. Bravo, buddy.

[RageWizard]

I smoke like a pack a week. Usually after sex, philly blunt, or sometimes when I drink alot. I always steal the cigs from the wife who smokes a pack of Camel Lights a day.

[Sportsgirl]

I don't smoke.

[DaveRabbit]

I don't smoke.

Cigarettes?

[Sportsgirl]

Cigarettes?

That was the topic, no?

[BadNina]

I don't smoke either

[The Seer]

This was mentioned the other day on talk radio. You are obviously bullShitted by the media.

Drinking has become socially acceptable I guess. Drunk Driving kills many people, but there are many other alcohol related deaths as well. Unlike tobacco Alcohol affects just about every organ in the body. 100,000 people die per year from Alcohol.

Anyone who has drank Alcohol in excess for a long period time is extremely susceptible to long term health problems to their brain,liver,kidney,heart etc..

Alcohol is great for the economy, when someone gets arrested for a D.U.I the insurance compaines and the local services get paid a lot of money. When a place wants to obtain a liquor license that costs money.

Alcohol and Tabacco aren't far off at all. Lots of innocent people are hurt from Alcohol either by getting hit by a Drunk Driver or having a family member or friend who drank too much and psychially abused them and so many other similar situations..

I don't think cigaretts ever caused a husband to beat his wife and kids. Or caused a mother to disregard who children so she smoke a cigarette..

I think you are wrong, way wrong.

There is no point in defending cigarettes much less alcohol. Both are horrible for you. I hate being next to an obnoxious drunk but I also hate breathing smoke and having my clothes smell like a nasty cigarette too. Both suck and I do neither except for the occasional social beer or 2.

[accuscoresucks]

yeah its called seneca valley resorvation in salamanicia,ny however you spell it.they have a local casino to
i smoke seneca full flavor 100's the cost were i am at is $3.50 w/tx included
i go to ny a couple times a year and buy like 100 cartons each time the cost per pack their $1.10 out the door
very cheap considering all i have to do is put $20 worth of gas in the car,bring my own drink,and snacks like beef jerky for the 4.5 hr round trip

[Panic]

This was mentioned the other day on talk radio. You are obviously bullShitted by the media.

Drinking has become socially acceptable I guess. Drunk Driving kills many people, but there are many other alcohol related deaths as well. Unlike tobacco Alcohol affects just about every organ in the body. 100,000 people die per year from Alcohol.

Anyone who has drank Alcohol in excess for a long period time is extremely susceptible to long term health problems to their brain,liver,kidney,heart etc..

Alcohol is great for the economy, when someone gets arrested for a D.U.I the insurance compaines and the local services get paid a lot of money. When a place wants to obtain a liquor license that costs money.

Alcohol and Tabacco aren't far off at all. Lots of innocent people are hurt from Alcohol either by getting hit by a Drunk Driver or having a family member or friend who drank too much and psychially abused them and so many other similar situations..

I don't think cigaretts ever caused a husband to beat his wife and kids. Or caused a mother to disregard who children so she smoke a cigarette..

I think you are wrong, way wrong.

Compared to the 450,000 killed yearly from smoking. Yeah, thats close. 100,000 to 450,000.

Half of all regular users(smoking) will be disabled or die from it. Thats a fact. If you like playing 50/50 with your life. Knock yourself out.

[eyeball]

I smoke on and off. I agree with imgv94, its the big anti-smoking lobby out there that has everyone brainwashed about smoking. Its a big scam done by the insurance comapnies and the media. Smoking in excess is bad like evrything else,but why doesn't the government restrict alcholol in reasturants and bars like smoking. THE REASON IS THAT THEY KNOW THERE WOULD BE A PUBLIC OUT CRY. Its all about control by big brother and the public is stupid enough to beleive it. watch TV they market you to stop smoking..BUT THEY advertise gambling on lotterys in the state! They have little kids brainwashed to tell their parents to stop smoking bu gambling and alcohol is Ok. Wake up people your being scammed!

[Panic]

That's because every case of lung cancer is attributed to cigs. If they attributed every death as a result of live failure to drinking, the numbers might be a little more even. Furthermore, if someone is smoking and you don't want to deal with it, you have the option to walk away. If you're driving along, minding your own business and a drunk driver blows through a red light, you don't have the option. Big difference.

Name me another major cause for lung cancer. What about slowly suffocating to death with emphysema? Now your gonna tell me that smoking isnt the main reason for that. Throat cancer, mouth cancer, heart disease....the list goes on and on. You smoke, you got a great chance of dying from it. As simple as that.

[tacomax]

I don´t think anyone besides 14 year olds smoke because it looks cool, it´s just an addiction.

You reckon? From a random sample of internet pictures I found the following random pictures:







They look pretty cool to me.

And here are some random pictures from another random sample of people not smoking:







Case closed, your Honour.

[eyeball]

I smoke on and off. But its a big scam by big brother to make you stop. Smoking in excess is bad for you, but not to the extent that they say. Its all a put on by the anti-smoking lobby and the government to take away your rights. At the same time they are advertising stop smoking they are marketing you to gamble on state lotteries and drink. Why don't they restrict drinking in bars and reasturants? because they know there would be a public outcry and big brother would like nothing better than having 250 million drunk americans. Wake up people its a scam do you know that the anti-smoking lobby pays out millions of dollars a year to their ceo! Its all about making smoking politically uncacceptable.
Dont be so stupid! Also the federal judge ruled in SC years ago that there is no such thing as second hand smoke...the american public is being played

[swede96]

Name me another major cause for lung cancer. What about slowly suffocating to death with emphysema? Now your gonna tell me that smoking isnt the main reason for that. Throat cancer, mouth cancer, heart disease....the list goes on and on. You smoke, you got a great chance of dying from it. As simple as that.

"Air pollution from motor vehicles, factories, and other sources probably increase the risk for lung cancer, and many experts believe that prolonged exposure to polluted air is similar to prolonged exposure to passive smoking in terms of risk for developing lung cancer."

"Asbestos exposure increases the risk of lung cancer by nine times. A combination of asbestos exposure and cigarette smoking raises the risk to as much as 50 times. Another cancer known as mesothelioma (a type of cancer of the pleura or of the lining of the abdominal cavity called the peritoneum) is also strongly associated with exposure to asbestos."

"Lung diseases, such as tuberculosis (TB) and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), also create a risk for lung cancer. A person with COPD has a four to six times greater risk of lung cancer even when the effect of cigarette smoking is excluded."

"Radon exposure poses another risk.

Radon is a by-product of naturally occurring radium, which is a product of uranium.

Radon is present in indoor and outdoor air.

The risk for lung cancer increases with significant long-term exposure to radon, although no one knows the exact risk. An estimated 12% of lung cancer deaths are attributable to radon gas, or 15,000 to 22,000 lung cancer-related deaths annually in the U.S. Radon gas is the second leading cause of lung cancer in the U.S. As with asbestos exposure, smoking greatly increases the risk of lung cancer with radon exposure."

"Certain occupations where exposure to arsenic, chromium, nickel, aromatic hydrocarbons, and ethers occurs may increase the risk of lung cancer."

Really, no one knows what causes any cancer...all we know are the factors that increase the risk. Many people who have never touched a cigarette end up with lung cancer and many people who smoke their whole life don't. I'm not saying smoking isn't a distgusting habit that poses many health risks, but it is not the only thing that increases your risk of lung cancer.

My grandmother passed away of lung cancer in July of 2006. She smoked socially for a couple years in her 20's. When she told her doctor this, he stopped asking questions and wrote it off as lung cancer due to smoking. He didn't even bother to ask if she had been exposed to any of the other contributing factors above. This illustrates my point that doctors are quick to attribute all cases of lung cancer to smoking without further researching the matter.

Now, my mother has smoked well over a pack a day (sometimes up to 3)for at least the last 30 years. She is completely cancer free. If it were so easy to develop lung cancer from smoking, don't you think she's have it by now?

[swede96]

I smoke on and off. But its a big scam by big brother to make you stop. Smoking in excess is bad for you, but not to the extent that they say. Its all a put on by the anti-smoking lobby and the government to take away your rights. At the same time they are advertising stop smoking they are marketing you to gamble on state lotteries and drink. Why don't they restrict drinking in bars and reasturants? because they know there would be a public outcry and big brother would like nothing better than having 250 million drunk americans. Wake up people its a scam do you know that the anti-smoking lobby pays out millions of dollars a year to their ceo! Its all about making smoking politically uncacceptable.
Dont be so stupid! Also the federal judge ruled in SC years ago that there is no such thing as second hand smoke...the american public is being played

P.S. Have you SEEN how they tax those things?! Rhode Island has one of the highest tax rates for tobacco. We're talking about $6.00 a pack. (I know...you southerners are having a heart attck right now). Do you think the state of Rhode Island really wants us to quit? Me thinks not. Oh, they say they're taxing it higher for our own good. Really? Because it seems to me that if the insurance companies and the state wanted me to quit, they'd have programs to help me come up with the $150 for Chantix. Has anyone seen how damn expensive any gum, patches or pills to help quit smoking are? It's absurd.

[RageWizard]

P.S. Have you SEEN how they tax those things?! Rhode Island has one of the highest tax rates for tobacco. We're talking about $6.00 a pack. (I know...you southerners are having a heart attck right now). Do you think the state of Rhode Island really wants us to quit? Me thinks not. Oh, they say they're taxing it higher for our own good. Really? Because it seems to me that if the insurance companies and the state wanted me to quit, they'd have programs to help me come up with the $150 for Chantix. Has anyone seen how damn expensive any gum, patches or pills to help quit smoking are? It's absurd.

I agree there Swedly-doo the tax on smokes is out-fvcking-rageous. Smokers are some of the most taxed in society with some of the most ostracized people in the land as well. They should have a choice like a smokers airline, all smoking in resturants, bars and of course casinos. Some of you will say what about the employees? Well they should know that smoking goes on in these establishments and if they are too stupid to realise this, the smoke is probably not going to kill them, it will be something stupid like forgetting to take their head out of a pool of water when their breath runs out of oxygen.

[swede96]

I would really appreciate it if they would start up a smokers airline before August. I'm looking at a 4+ hour flight with no cigs. So help me lucifer, I'm going to be a bitch on a mission when I get off that plane. I pitty da fool that gets between me and the exit.

[thezbar]

MY chosen vice is gambling. I smoked for a short period of time when my job required me to sit in front of a computer for 8 hours. It helped my typing speed but killed my cardio endurance at the gym. Too many risks not worth the reward.
There are many female smokers at my work. I see what smoking does to their skin. It makes them look older. Kind of sad really. Its a very powerful addiction,but not a very intellegent choice. I have a good friend who lost his younger sister to lung cancer at 37, leaving behind a husband and two young kids. She smoked two packs a day. Its just not worth it in my humble opinion.

[swede96]

MY chosen vice is gambling. I smoked for a short period of time when my job required me to sit in front of a computer for 8 hours. It helped my typing speed but killed my cardio endurance at the gym. Too many risks not worth the reward.
There are many female smokers at my work. I see what smoking does to their skin. It makes them look older. Kind of sad really. Its a very powerful addiction,but not a very intellegent choice. I have a good friend who lost his younger sister to lung cancer at 37, leaving behind a husband and two young kids. She smoked two packs a day. Its just not worth it in my humble opinion.

The thing is, you can't call something and addiction and a choice in the same sentence. Smokers chose to pick up those first few, after that they had about as much choice as any other addict to put them down.

You're right about our skin. Mine's not too bad as of yet (but I spend WAY too much money on skin care)...but I have noticed little wrinkles already...and I'm 24.

[Panic]

Swede: For me to say all lung cancer is caused by smoking would be extremely naive on my part. But I do believe the majority is definately attributed to it. Just take a look at all lung cancer fatalities and then check how many of those were smokers. You'd be astounded. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, well it must be a...

To think smoking doesn't kill is being extremely naive on the other side. But hey, I think the world is getting to crowded as it is anyway. So to all smokers: Smoke away. I'm sure them telling you it isn't harmful is the truth.

[swede96]

Swede: For me to say all lung cancer is caused by smoking would be extremely naive on my part. But I do believe the majority is definately attributed to it. Just take a look at all lung cancer fatalities and then check how many of those were smokers. You'd be astounded. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, well it must be a...

To think smoking doesn't kill is being extremely naive on the other side. But hey, I think the world is getting to crowded as it is anyway. So to all smokers: Smoke away. I'm sure them telling you it isn't harmful is the truth.

I never once claimed that smoking doesn't cause major health problems.

Thos people in the hospital with lung cancer. How many of them were smokers when thay found out? How many HAD been smokers at one point in their life? Yes, it matters. After you've stopped smoking for 15 years, you have the same chance of getting lung cancer as a person who never smoked. My grandmother fell into that category. Her lung cancer was attributed to smoking when she hadn't touched a cig in almost 50 years. But her cancer was from smoking? Not to mention, there were probably les chemicals in cigs when she was in here 20's.

[Sportsgirl]

Obvioulsy, smoking is bad. Period. But, I think everyone's body handles the bad things they do to it in different ways. And some people are going to get lung cancer and some aren't regardless. Example: My uncle never drank, never smoked and died at just barely 69 of lung cancer. My grandfather started smoking cigarettes when he was 9 years old and never stopped. He also died of lung cancer - but he was 79 years old - he had smoked profusely for 70 years straight.

I also think people handle addictiveness in different ways. Yes, I used to smoke - for a couple years. One day I decided to quit and I haven't picked up a cigarette in 6 years. It never bothered me, I just told myself that I was a nonsmoker and I was done. No patch or weight-gain or gum chewing. I just quit.

[thezbar]

I stand corrected. I was weak in English, strong in math as a school boy.
As for the skin, I like to use women's vanity as a tool to get a point across. The women at work dispise me for some of my comments but I'm thinking about their long term interests. Deep down inside they know I'm right.

[Panic]

I never once claimed that smoking doesn't cause major health problems.

Thos people in the hospital with lung cancer. How many of them were smokers when thay found out? How many HAD been smokers at one point in their life? Yes, it matters. After you've stopped smoking for 15 years, you have the same chance of getting lung cancer as a person who never smoked. My grandmother fell into that category. Her lung cancer was attributed to smoking when she hadn't touched a cig in almost 50 years. But her cancer was from smoking? Not to mention, there were probably les chemicals in cigs when she was in here 20's.

And back then she was probably smoking cigarettes without filters. Pure chemical right to the lungs. How long it manifest' itself in someone is anybodys guess. Like SG said, I think it depends on genetics.

Sorry to hear that your Grandmother went like that. It's a horrible way to go. Two of my grandparents(both were smokers) died from emphysema and that wasn't pretty to watch.

[RageWizard]

SG has a point, my 92 year old grandmother smokes a pack a day, and sounds like it too. About 10 years ago my mom was on a kick to get her to quit, but the entire family was like it would it really matter. Now grandma has been diagnosed with Glacoma but no lung cancer. I've got one of my florida buddies who lives in Orlando making a special delivery care package once a month to combat the glacoma with another smoking product.

[TPowell]

lol I'm not a CIG smoker....thats all lol. All my friends smoke cigs but I just cant get into it and dont really want to unless it's to curb the smell lol

[imgv94]

I didnt know posts had sound. You must have a special way of decoding sound from text. congrats. I'm not bitter. Just think smokers r trash. I dont like my $200 sweater to smell like smoke after I spend 5 minutes next to Joe Trailer Trash in public. I also dont need his crap hyundai next to my escalade. I guess i have to be exact with you imgv. I dont want you scamming me for money. Of course not all smokers r loooosers. Just 98% of them. You happy. For the most part it shows mental deficiency. Ever been in a smokers car? ****in ghetttttto. I like my escalade smelling like the fine leather its draped in. WCP 4 life. Smokers r trash. Except weed smokers. You guys are cool.

Only in the internet world do people like this exist.. Ever hear anyone talk like this in real life thats why you take people like this with a grain of salt.

[imgv94]

There is no point in defending cigarettes much less alcohol. Both are horrible for you. I hate being next to an obnoxious drunk but I also hate breathing smoke and having my clothes smell like a nasty cigarette too. Both suck and I do neither except for the occasional social beer or 2.

I agree with this post. I'm not trying to defend cigaretts of course they aren't good for you. But to say alcohol doesn't compare is just straight obsurd. This thread proved just that.

[hoopster42]

If so which ones?

occasional cloves, but only when i'm drunk, which is about once a year, at most