SBR, need a definitive answer: What plays apply towards the DSI 5X rollover from BTP?

**Fishhead** · 12-05-10, 08:56 AM

How much have you won overall in the contest???

**Capybara** · 12-05-10, 09:15 AM

Originally posted by Fishhead

How much have you won overall in the contest???

What does that have to do with it?

I don't know the figure... Gotten paid maybe half the time? Not a ton. I haven't requested a rollover because I've eventually lost it -- but in my head I HAVE COMPLETED the rollover a couple of times. I just would get totally annoyed if I had a withdrawal declined.

I'm thinking down the line here.

**tltaylor89** · 12-05-10, 09:34 AM

5X the amount of what you won in action everything count but casino action.

**Capybara** · 12-05-10, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by tltaylor89

5X the amount of what you won in action everything count but casino action.

Nope, not according to what they told me last time: The guy says he checked into it and he is "100% sure that all that counts is spreads and totals from MLB, NFL, NBA, and NHL," and moneylines from MLB and one other, I forget which, but not NFL.

**capitalist pig** · 12-05-10, 10:06 AM

Ive won BTP $ and rolled it over and cashed out with no problems. I played sides and totals in the NFL and NBA.

later

**Capybara** · 12-05-10, 10:08 AM

Originally posted by capitalist pig

Ive won BTP $ and rolled it over and cashed out with no problems. I played sides and totals in the NFL and NBA.

later

Any NFL ML's? Any special bets like "No score in final 2mts"? Parlays? Teasers?

**capitalist pig** · 12-05-10, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by Capybara

Any NFL ML's? Any special bets like "No score in final 2mts"? Parlays? Teasers?

I didnt play any of the above, just totals and sides.

later

**Fishhead** · 12-05-10, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by Capybara

What does that have to do with it?

I don't know the figure... Gotten paid maybe half the time? Not a ton. I haven't requested a rollover because I've eventually lost it -- but in my head I HAVE COMPLETED the rollover a couple of times. I just would get totally annoyed if I had a withdrawal declined.

I'm thinking down the line here.

You don't??

How hard could it be to know this or find out??

How much could you have possibly won??

**Statman** · 12-05-10, 10:19 AM

Should also add that in addition to casino bets not counting towards rollover, it is also includes horse bets not counting towards rollover as well. Never understood this because it is $$ being risked so why place restrictions. I suspect it has something to do with "internal" calculations.

**Capybara** · 12-05-10, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by Fishhead

You don't??

How hard could it be to know this or find out??

How much could you have possibly won??

Fishy, what does how much I've won have to do with what bets count toward rollover?!?!

Fine, think I've gotten a couple of 25's and a couple of 35's from BTP, so something like 120. Yes, I know that means I had to wager 600, that's not the point of my post. Please elucidate.

**Fishhead** · 12-05-10, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by Capybara

Fishy, what does how much I've won have to do with what bets count toward rollover?!?!

Fine, think I've gotten a couple of 25's and a couple of 35's from BTP, so something like 120. Yes, I know that means I had to wager 600, that's not the point of my post. Please elucidate.

I think many clerks at DSI just make guesses as to what "counts"........thus you're going to recieve different answers routinely.

**Capybara** · 12-05-10, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by Fishhead

I think many clerks at DSI just make guesses as to what "counts"........thus you're going to recieve different answers routinely.

Yeah, but isn't this odd? I mean what good is the whole BTP contest if what makes your winnings actually VALID and WITHDRAWABLE is completely vague?! I don't get why there's not more discussion of this somewhere, that's all. Maybe because no one successfully rolls it over!

By the way, the last guy took like 15 mts to "go check" -- so I'm thinking that what I said above is true about only the four major sports and only sides and totals.

So just kind of want to let people know that if you're playing NFL moneylines, or extra stuff like team totals or that sort of thing, you could request a withdrawal and be told NO.

**Capybara** · 12-05-10, 10:50 AM

P.S. I think I might have uncovered a conspiracy or something, because I PM'd the usually prompt-responding Lou like twice about this with no reply at all!

**THE PROFIT** · 12-05-10, 10:51 AM

here is the criteria for most rollovers

no exotic or prop plays
no ML's +/-200
No parlays larger than 3 legs

**SBR Lou** · 12-05-10, 04:03 PM

There aren't any wagering restrictions, since the prizes are cash not freeplays. You can wager anything with them, the lesser of the risk/win amount still being in effect to calculate rollover completion.

**Capybara** · 12-06-10, 12:28 AM

Originally posted by Lou

There aren't any wagering restrictions, since the prizes are cash not freeplays. You can wager anything with them, the lesser of the risk/win amount still being in effect to calculate rollover completion.

Are you 100% sure of this, Lou? I want to believe you but the last guy I talked to at DSI practically swore on his grandmother that all the plays I mentioned above would not be eligible. He did see that it was cash and not a freeplay but told me everything subject to the rollover had to meet the rollover requirements for eligible plays (four major sports, sides and totals only).

**SBR Lou** · 12-06-10, 12:37 AM

Originally posted by Capybara

Are you 100% sure of this, Lou? I want to believe you but the last guy I talked to at DSI practically swore on his grandmother that all the plays I mentioned above would not be eligible. He did see that it was cash and not a freeplay but told me everything subject to the rollover had to meet the rollover requirements for eligible plays (four major sports, sides and totals only).

Yes I'm certain. Once you've met rollover and attempt to withdrawal, just shoot me a note in the event that there's any confusion.