Got Cam Newton NOT heisman winner at +1250

jayroy25 · 12-02-10, 07:25 AM

This is a solid bet

Hoja Verdes · 12-02-10, 07:46 AM

He will win, no question. You need to hedge ASAP at matchbook.

Doc JS · 12-02-10, 07:56 AM

Yeah...anything short of pictures of Cam kidnapping the Lindberg baby or being the mystery shooter on the grassy knoll, he wins the Heisman going away regardless of what happens Saturday in the ATL...

Doc

frostno98 · 12-02-10, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by Doc JS

Yeah...anything short of pictures of Cam kidnapping the Lindberg baby or being the mystery shooter on the grassy knoll, he wins the Heisman going away regardless of what happens Saturday in the ATL...

Doc

Whatever did happen to the lindberg baby. Did he mysteriously grew up in some foreign land and eventually invented something

ayuntalo · 12-02-10, 08:22 AM

yeah he surely has the heisman..if boise didnt fall maybe kellen moore has a shot, but now its all newton

mmike032 · 12-02-10, 08:36 AM

NCAA ruled him eligible.
he wins the Heisman.
he may have it taken away a couple yrs later ala Bush but...

SCRAGGS · 12-02-10, 08:42 AM

Originally posted by frostno98

Whatever did happen to the lindberg baby. Did he mysteriously grew up in some foreign land and eventually invented something

Turns out He grew up in NJ with a Jewish Family and now has a very
impressive spreadsheet http://jjgold.mysbrforum.com/spreadsheet/

Hotdiggity11 · 12-02-10, 08:44 AM

Hedge it.

teaserpleaser · 12-02-10, 10:47 AM

it will be close we all know he should win it but a number of voters already said they wont vote for him.

RollPlayer · 12-02-10, 11:20 AM

Unless he throws 5 picks against South Carolina and loses them the game the Heisman is his. Definite hedge here

dontazeme1 · 12-02-10, 12:41 PM

loss for sure hedge the fvk outta it

playit · 12-02-10, 01:18 PM

Looks like you would have to bet $300 just to cover your $100 loss. So basically you are betting $300 to win $1250? I sure wouldn't have taken that bet if I were you.

solid152 · 12-02-10, 03:18 PM

Well it's either he wins the Heisman now and gets stripped of it a year or so from now (a la Reggie Bush.) Or he doesn't win at all and it saves NCAA more embarrassment.

dfberger23 · 12-02-10, 08:00 PM

Cam will win it, 100%. You are throwing away money.

zuluhead1``1 · 12-02-10, 08:08 PM

After the Iron Bowl, there is absolutley no one Newton will lose. You better hedge this bet.

ngates815 · 12-02-10, 08:11 PM

Just a hypothetical question.

Say Cam Newton does win the heisman. You pay him the 100. 2 years later they pull a Reggie Bush and take away the Heisman from him. Will you hunt your buddy down and threaten him to get that hundo back?

THE PROFIT · 12-02-10, 08:21 PM

you never know, they could find some reason not to give it to him

BettingWizard · 12-02-10, 10:06 PM

NCAA cleared him, so he is a LOCK to win it.

even 100-1 doesnt have value, what a terrible bet.

Wreckloose · 12-02-10, 10:08 PM

NCAA cleared him, but it's proven his dad shopped him. Voters can punish him for that even if the NCAA doesn't. Still I think it's his. Really why even invite anyone else to NY.

pokernut9999 · 12-02-10, 10:13 PM

NCAA cleared him to try and keep TCU out of title game.

Will find evidence after the bowl season.

THE PROFIT · 12-02-10, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by pokernut9999

NCAA cleared him to try and keep TCU out of title game.

Will find evidence after the bowl season.

that makes a lot of sense. The Heisman committee is not gonna take any chances giving it to someone who has CLEARLY violated more rules than Bush. They really dont wanna make a habit of having vacant spots in Heisman years. I dont think theres any way in hell he gets it for that reason alone. To do that again would really take away the validity of the trophy & institution

zuluhead1``1 · 12-03-10, 01:13 AM

I'll put point up against anyone that thinks Newton won't win.

EmpireMaker · 12-03-10, 01:39 AM

He wins it, you burned your money

rfr3sh · 12-03-10, 01:46 AM

I love how everyone is saying he burned his money when he clearly stated he is looking to hedge it and was asking where the best odds are on him to win it

rfr3sh · 12-03-10, 01:47 AM

http://www.sbrforum.com/props-odds/cam-newton-won-t-face-ncaa-sanctions-will-win-heisman-a-16518/

agharah1 · 12-03-10, 01:53 AM

Its Cam Newton and it isn't even close. The question isn't will the appearance of impropriety cost him the trophy, its whether it will mean he wins by 500 points or 1000 points. The only other players who belong in the conversation are LeMichael James and Andrew Luck, and neither had the flawless season Newton did. Between the fact that James and Luck play their games in FoxSportsNet purgatory and they both will split the Pac-10 vote, there is no alternative.

If the NCAA has cleared him, that's all the Heisman voters need to know. At first I thought their explanation was BS, too, but then I realized this is nothing like Reggie Bush. Unlike Bush and USC, Cam Newton and his family didn't actually receive any improper benefits, nor did Cam actually end up playing for Mississippi State. Newton's father will cop to it, be banned from associating with Mississippi State (like he even cares) and then Cam's off to the NFL Draft, never to be concerned with the NCAA ever again.

I'm sure there might be some voters who will leave him off their ballots, but sports reporting is the lowest form of journalism. In my experience sports writers haven't the slightest idea what it means to be a journalist, much less an athlete. If I had a ballot, I'd protest the protest vote. If they're going to leave Cam Newton off their ballots, I'm going to leave everybody except Cam Newton off my ballot.

sapidoc · 12-03-10, 02:45 AM

If you have a hedging opportunity it was free money. GL.

rm18 · 12-03-10, 02:54 AM

does not look like any wagering at 5dime this year because of this ****

playit · 12-03-10, 09:26 AM

If you have a hedging opportunity it was free money. GL

I don't see how this is Free money. If Cam Newton wins then he needs to pay out $100. For him to hedge that means he would be betting on Cam somewhere else so if he does win then he wouldn't have all the exposure. But at 1:3 odds if you want to hedge then you would have to bet $300 to cover your loss in the event that Cam wins. How is that better? I don't see where the free money is... If he hedges then if cam wins he is out $300 and if Cam Loses the guy gets $1250. Just taking the bet if cam wins he is out $100 and still gets the whole $1250 if he loses. I think he just took a sucker bet.

ngates815 · 12-03-10, 09:34 AM

Originally posted by playit

I don't see how this is Free money. If Cam Newton wins then he needs to pay out $100. For him to hedge that means he would be betting on Cam somewhere else so if he does win then he wouldn't have all the exposure. But at 1:3 odds if you want to hedge then you would have to bet $300 to cover your loss in the event that Cam wins. How is that better? I don't see where the free money is... If he hedges then if cam wins he is out $300 and if Cam Loses the guy gets $1250. Just taking the bet if cam wins he is out $100 and still gets the whole $1250 if he loses. I think he just took a sucker bet.

Bet 750 at a book to win 250 That Cam wins. Then he nets 150 (250 - 100)

If Cam doesn't win he nets 500 (1250 - 750)

Pretty simple buddy.

BernardMadoff · 12-03-10, 09:38 AM

He will win.

playit · 12-03-10, 09:41 AM

Bet 750 at a book to win 250 That Cam wins. Then he nets 100 (250 - 100)

If Cam doesn't win he nets 500 (1250 - 750)

Pretty simple buddy.

ha- thanks. I just was not thinking big enough!

BigdaddyQH · 12-03-10, 09:46 AM

Newton is an easy winner. You are not going to make any money.

obamaismyuncle · 12-03-10, 09:49 AM

Newton will win