Anybody here take creatine?

**mrmarket** · 12-01-10, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by Rod1010

i know this is probably the wrong forum to be asking this.

Yes I'm not sure many here take it. This site might be a better place to get some answers:

http://www.cancerforums.net/forums/14-Prostate-Cancer-Forum

**Rod1010** · 12-01-10, 10:26 AM

^^ funny. just need to know how bigger did u guys get the 1st week. need to get fkin huge for football season

**D3 Mighty Ducks** · 12-01-10, 10:30 AM

Creatine isn't the smartest way to get jacked for football. It'll take a toll on your body sooner or later. Just hit the gym constantly and eat right. Do it the right way and you'll be rewarded. When I was in high school I played football too. Weighed 130 pounds and did exactly what i just mentioned and I was cut and built like a football player in just a couple of months.

**Rod1010** · 12-01-10, 10:33 AM

yeah i kno ^^ creatine gets you big fast but u pee it away when you stop taking it. i train 5 times a week i just gotta eat better . i do take a weight gainer tho .

**stefan084** · 12-01-10, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by D3 Mighty Ducks

Creatine isn't the smartest way to get jacked for football. It'll take a toll on your body sooner or later. Just hit the gym constantly and eat right. Do it the right way and you'll be rewarded. When I was in high school I played football too. Weighed 130 pounds and did exactly what i just mentioned and I was cut and built like a football player in just a couple of months.

thats not the slightest bit true-there have been countless studies on creatine and there have never been any conclusive evidence to suggest it has any lasting negative effects.creatine is found in our skeletal muscle naturally and you get creatine in your diet from foods like fish and steak,just not in the amounts you get in the supplement. i have taken creatine for almost as long as I have been lifting. I played football in highschool and in college and it is one of the only supplements that actually does what it says. especially good for explosive movements perfect for football--however I would do some internet research on it for yourself rather than ask for advice on a gambling site. long story short,yes i would recommend it --side note try kre-alkalyn creatine

**whatsgood5** · 12-01-10, 10:53 AM

Yes, currently cycling off of it. Works great for me, especially in the first two or three weeks of a cycle, and then the effects slowly die off near the last couple of weeks, four weeks off after eight on works good for me.

**Rod1010** · 12-01-10, 11:07 AM

how long before i notice changes in the loading phase of the 1st week?? do you need to eat alot for it to work ?

**whatsgood5** · 12-01-10, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by Rod1010

how long before i notice changes in the loading phase of the 1st week?? do you need to eat alot for it to work ?

Don't know whether or not you need to eat a lot, but you definitely need to drink a lot of water. From what I understand it kinda acts like saltwater and extracts water from your body or some shit so you'll get dehydrated easier if you don't drink a lot.

As far as how long it takes you to notice it, I noticed it my first workout after taking it, but that was obviously a mental thing b/c it doesn't work that fast, but you should definitely notice it after a week if not a couple days before.

**pirate** · 12-01-10, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by Rod1010

how long before i notice changes in the loading phase of the 1st week?? do you need to eat alot for it to work ?

Creatine is not the same as anabolic steroids. Creatine supplies the natural fuel your body uses for intense bursts of activity. It will not bulk you up, but allow you to get a few extra reps in which will make you bigger and stronger. My advice is to work out progressively harder each week and when you have plateaued or gone as far as you possibly can...then supplement creatine and see how you can do 20% more weight and reps.

**Rod1010** · 12-01-10, 11:18 AM

alright thanks man my friend gained 8 pounds in the 1st week. thats crazy.

**raydog** · 12-01-10, 11:21 AM

your friend gained most of that in water weight...just follow the directions...
rod. the only body changes you will notice in the first week or so will probably be a little bit of bloating from all the water you need to drink with it...because you will hold some water weight when you first start it... protien, no-xplode, creatine combo along with strict diet and weights pal...thats what you need to focus on...in a few weeks, you should notice a slight strength improvement.... you arent going to be Ronnie Coleman any time soon

**Rod1010** · 12-01-10, 11:24 AM

yeah i know that its water weight. i did notice some extra reps in the weight room.

**will2survive** · 12-01-10, 11:25 AM

Friend, I used to lift weights,get the muscle mags, go to a big football school(knew an NFL'er)(Late 80's). Don't take the easy way out in which your body will suffer. Do it with consistent hard work.Build your strength level and bodysize up the natural way. No need for creatine.It's poor judgment if you take it.

**RollPlayer** · 12-01-10, 11:38 AM

I tried it, buthonestly I don't think that anything works better than just consistent hard work. Looking at creatine and stuff like that shows that you're looking for a shortcut instead of just putting the work in

**Rod1010** · 12-01-10, 11:40 AM

willing to work hard but football season is in 3 weeks so i needed some type of " boost"

**raydog** · 12-01-10, 11:50 AM

if you want a "boost" , go with a pre workout supp. like no-xplode , jack3d etc. that contains creatine in it, like i said... something that will give you more while you are in the gym... but the protein is what is going to make you bigger... go to bodybuilding.com... a world of info in that forum

**jjgold** · 12-01-10, 11:51 AM

ROD????????????????????????????????????? ????????

Common, shoot Roids in your ass like I do and grow and get strong

Creatine compared to Roids is night and day

Common Rod

**will2survive** · 12-01-10, 11:55 AM

**raydog** · 12-01-10, 11:56 AM

common coach....kids these days get tested for all that shit...
coach, send him some of that undetectable shit you got.... hey coach, you ever tried rub the "clear" on your cokk?

**brahmabull117** · 12-01-10, 12:00 PM

OP, I'm an amateur bodybuilder

what questions do you have?

**30K Millionaire** · 12-01-10, 12:01 PM

Used to take creatine. Got bigger but was probably half water retention. Gave me the shtts though. Just stick to Roids like JJ said, probably safer

**Rod1010** · 12-01-10, 12:20 PM

lmao nah cant take roids . dont want needledick

**Fieldysnuts44** · 12-01-10, 12:21 PM

I use creatine and then drink a muscle milk right after workout.I try to take in 15/20 grams of protein every 3-4hrs.You want to eat 5-6 times a day to keep metabolism up and not junk but protein.It is very possible to gain 15-20lbs of muscle in 3 months.

**Rod1010** · 12-01-10, 12:24 PM

how the fukk do u eat 20g of protein every 3 hours . protein shakes i imagine ? dont have a fukload of food in my fridge

**raydog** · 12-01-10, 01:15 PM

hey rod, i know you will probably get plenty of cardio in during practice, but here are some Complexes (with video) that i do when my time is limited for cardio...awesome for strength and cardio...

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http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/screw_cardio_four_complexes_for_a_shredded_physique

**Tree Rollins** · 12-01-10, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by D3 Mighty Ducks

Creatine isn't the smartest way to get jacked for football. It'll take a toll on your body sooner or later. Just hit the gym constantly and eat right. Do it the right way and you'll be rewarded. When I was in high school I played football too. Weighed 130 pounds and did exactly what i just mentioned and I was cut and built like a football player in just a couple of months.

Originally posted by stefan084

thats not the slightest bit true-there have been countless studies on creatine and there have never been any conclusive evidence to suggest it has any lasting negative effects.

Listen to the 2nd guy, not the first.
Hitting the weights hard is great, don't get me wrong, but you won't get exponential growth and go from 130 pounds to a shredded football player "in a couple months" without the help of some form of supplement. If his story is true, it's probably b/c he hit puberty or something. Also, be careful about "hitting the gym constantly" you will literally lose muscle strength if you over train. Over training is one of the biggest mistakes guys make. As long as you know what you're doing, you can go to the gym a lot, but remember, your muscles don't grow while you're lifting, they grow during rest. Anyway, at the very least you should be taking a lot of protein. your muscles can't grow without protein. ex. i weigh 240, so i take 60 in the morning, 60 at lunch, 60 before i train and 60 within 30 min. after i train. i know it sounds like a lot but really it's only 4 shakes a day. It might be recommend to spread them out more, i'm not sure, but this works well enough for me.You probably know about protein already.

Back to creatine, it makes you hold water in your muscles which puts them in a better state to grow, as long as you're lifting. Personally, I'm kinda on the borderline with creatine. Only b/c once i stop taking it i lose the size it helped me gain. So it's a temporary fix. You're supposed to cycle it though so maybe that helps to maintain more steady growth. But i've never been into it enough to go through that.

**BettingWizard** · 12-01-10, 05:46 PM

creatine is worthless. you lose everything when you stop taking it.

**CMattis22** · 12-01-10, 06:27 PM

i had been taking it in high school when i was lifting for sports. all it pretty much does supply energy to the cells in your body. (primarily muscle) theres no negative side effects to it really. maybe an increase in water weight but thats about it. if you're on the cycle for a while and you suddently stop taking it, you may see a decrease in your energy. positives about it is it gives you that extra boost. lets you work out longer and get in them extra reps. i thought it was a good product to use to bulk up with. my athletic trainer recommended me not to take it. but hey, everyone is entitled to there own opinion.

**TexansFan** · 12-01-10, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by Rod1010

lmao nah cant take roids . dont want needledick

That wasn't a concern for JJ so that's why he recommended it.

**Chugs** · 12-01-10, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by pirate

Creatine is not the same as anabolic steroids. Creatine supplies the natural fuel your body uses for intense bursts of activity. It will not bulk you up, but allow you to get a few extra reps in which will make you bigger and stronger. My advice is to work out progressively harder each week and when you have plateaued or gone as far as you possibly can...then supplement creatine and see how you can do 20% more weight and reps.

This.

If you are serious about weight training and getting bigger and stronger you should be taking creatine. There is nothing wrong with it, and these guys telling you not to take "short cuts" or use this because it is "harmful" or doesnt do anything, dont know what they are talking about. It is natural, but needs to be taken as a supplement because you cant get it in large enough amounts for it to make a difference.

Its not meant to put on size in a few weeks. You need to take it everyday, weather you workout that day or not because it builds up in your body over time. The people that load up on it thinking it will get them massive, are simply retaining water, and this is not the way it is supposed to be used, which is why people are so surprised when they stop using it and lose the bulk.

Like Pirate mentioned, it provides energy to muscle cells allowing for more intense body movements. This then allows you to handle more weight when lifting, in turn making you stronger and bigger. But this process takes time, if you are looking for a magical supp to get jacked quick this is not it. It is simply a supplement to give you a bit of an edge over time when weight training.

**King Mayan** · 12-01-10, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by will2survive

Friend, I used to lift weights,get the muscle mags, go to a big football school(knew an NFL'er)(Late 80's). Don't take the easy way out in which your body will suffer. Do it with consistent hard work.Build your strength level and bodysize up the natural way. No need for creatine.It's poor judgment if you take it.

you know creatine is in red meat right??? It's not bad for you!!!

**sickler** · 12-01-10, 07:47 PM

I used it for a while 15 years ago. Didn't help me at all. At the time I was a sheet of lean muscle and wanted to be a bit bulkier, thought this stuff would help increase workout times........but I was already working out plenty. Useless for me. Needed roids.

**louis.ana** · 12-01-10, 07:58 PM

the stuff is garbage..
you want long-term results

**Himalaya** · 12-01-10, 08:08 PM

worked great for me, try liquid or micronized version to reduce bloat, i hear kre-alkalyn is good as well. Good luck

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