Attention NFL Owners: Stop Hiring Washed Up Coaches

**MadTiger** · 11-15-10, 11:11 PM

Shanahan is lost out there.

There's always pinochle and quiet evenings with wifey.

**Deuce** · 11-15-10, 11:16 PM

Snyder is a jerkoff.

Gibbs too.

**Seattle Slew** · 11-15-10, 11:18 PM

How about these awful coordinators like Jim Haslett, and in college, Greg Robinson? How do these guys keep getting jobs when their defenses are an embarrassment? They must have pictures of these head coaches.

**Seattle Slew** · 11-15-10, 11:19 PM

He looks like he doesn't even care. His plan is to coach 3 years and get his kid the head coaching job. Even Snyder isn't that stupid.

Originally posted by MadTiger

Shanahan is lost out there.

There's always pinochle and quiet evenings with wifey.

**ukbro00** · 11-15-10, 11:25 PM

Who would you have liked them to hire instead?

**The Seer** · 11-15-10, 11:28 PM

another overreaction thread

**Seattle Slew** · 11-15-10, 11:29 PM

How about someone like Mike Smith and John Harbaugh? They weren't even coordinators when they were hired. Has worked out pretty well for Atlanta and Baltimore.

Originally posted by ukbro00

Who would you have liked them to hire instead?

**MadTiger** · 11-15-10, 11:34 PM

Originally posted by ukbro00

Who would you have liked them to hire instead?

A very bright and hungry high school coach.

I don't think it would be that much worse.

**big0mar** · 11-15-10, 11:35 PM

**ukbro00** · 11-15-10, 11:38 PM

For every Mike Smith and Jim Harbaugh, there are many non-coaches that don't make it.

**stealthyburrito** · 11-15-10, 11:40 PM

yessir jj.

only success came with elway.

good to make your reputation (and living) over two seasons with perhaps one of the greatest qb's in history of the nfl.

**The Seer** · 11-15-10, 11:40 PM

Originally posted by Seattle Slew

How about someone like Mike Smith and John Harbaugh? They weren't even coordinators when they were hired. Has worked out pretty well for Atlanta and Baltimore.

Mike Smith was the defensive coordinator for Jacksonville. I know because I talked to him at a coach's convention at the time.

**mtneer1212** · 11-15-10, 11:46 PM

Originally posted by Seattle Slew

How about someone like Mike Smith and John Harbaugh? They weren't even coordinators when they were hired. Has worked out pretty well for Atlanta and Baltimore.

Yeah, but Atlanta had to hire Bobby Petrino to figure out they needed a pro guy --- it isn't an exact science. Leslie Frazier should be nigh on everyone's list, and look at Pittsburgh -- they passed on their own guy in Wisenhunt and Grimm to hire Tomlin -- which has turned out good, and already has yielded a ring.

**mtneer1212** · 11-15-10, 11:49 PM

And the Bears and Vikings should have Jim Harbaugh high on the list......... Lovie is 6-3, and no one thinks they are any good. I've actually heard that Minnesota Gophers are ready to offer Harbaugh a $4-5 mil year contract to come there.......

**Seattle Slew** · 11-16-10, 12:04 AM

Right, my mistake. But Smith was not known outside Jacksonville, and the team was not that good when he was there. I think they made the playoffs just once. Wasn't the typical coordinator who had a playoff run then got a job.

On the washed up coaches themes, I don't think anybody thought Wade Phillips was a good pick by Dallas after two earlier stops in Buffalo and Denver.

Originally posted by The Seer

Mike Smith was the defensive coordinator for Jacksonville. I know because I talked to him at a coach's convention at the time.

**jjgold** · 11-16-10, 12:20 AM

The game has passed these guys by, you need young guys to coach in nfl now.

**The Seer** · 11-16-10, 12:23 AM

Originally posted by mtneer1212

Yeah, but Atlanta had to hire Bobby Petrino to figure out they needed a pro guy --- it isn't an exact science. Leslie Frazier should be nigh on everyone's list, and look at Pittsburgh -- they passed on their own guy in Wisenhunt and Grimm to hire Tomlin -- which has turned out good, and already has yielded a ring.

Petrino was a pro guy. He was the O coordinator under Coughlin at Jacksonville and Dick Lebeau has more to do with the Steelers winning than Tomlin who is basically a statue

**Schwab the Great** · 11-16-10, 12:25 AM

I think you can add Marvin Lewis to the list too.

His Bengals are washed up.

**lakerboy** · 11-16-10, 12:28 AM

Like all leagues the NFL just keeps recycling guys. The funny thing is that they are all white.

**ronjon619** · 11-16-10, 12:33 AM

add Gary Kubiak of the Texans to the AX list

**Grind House** · 11-16-10, 01:02 AM

**Grind House** · 11-16-10, 01:05 AM

Originally posted by Seattle Slew

Right, my mistake. But Smith was not known outside Jacksonville, and the team was not that good when he was there. I think they made the playoffs just once. Wasn't the typical coordinator who had a playoff run then got a job.

On the washed up coaches themes, I don't think anybody thought Wade Phillips was a good pick by Dallas after two earlier stops in Buffalo and Denver.

Mike Smith was a coordinator for the Jaguars. On defense we had our best years with him there. The league is one big jerk circle. A bunch of old white rich fags ramming these old sorry ass recycled coaches in the brown eye, and giving them multiple chances to fail. Scared to see anybody of a different color succeed.

**slacker00** · 11-16-10, 08:45 AM

I think we're seeing the last remnants of the "Vermeil" effect. Vermeil came back as a senior and won with the Rams & Chiefs.

Owners are finally going to realize that isn't really the formula for success. Especially in an age of increasing technology, old guys can't stay up with the modern trends. Jason Garrett in Dallas might be a new trend, let a guy work his way up through the organization for a few years with increasing responsibility until he's ready.

**Johnny 55** · 11-16-10, 08:58 AM

Every NFL team should hire a clock management consultant since none of them can figure it out themselves. Every week they massively screw up their timeouts,challenges, and general management of the clock. Les Miles is the greatest of all time at this.

**MadTiger** · 11-16-10, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by slacker00

I think we're seeing the last remnants of the "Vermeil" effect. Vermeil came back as a senior and won with the Rams & Chiefs. Owners are finally going to realize that isn't really the formula for success. Especially in an age of increasing technology, old guys can't stay up with the modern trends. Jason Garrett in Dallas might be a new trend, let a guy work his way up through the organization for a few years with increasing responsibility until he's ready.

Good-ass comment.

**Scorpion** · 11-16-10, 11:36 AM

in my NFL head coaches power rating Shanahan is A-

Mike is not the problem Danny and his big wallet are the problem

**sdsports** · 11-16-10, 06:08 PM

I knew that the Skins were going to be a joke when they hired Shanahan. I didn't do anything except be able to pick a running back off the street after Elway retired.

**jjgold** · 11-16-10, 07:01 PM

Actually Jewish coaches would do well because they would outsmart the other team/coach

**slacker00** · 11-16-10, 07:20 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Actually Jewish coaches would do well because they would outsmart the other team/coach

They'd be good at managing that salary cap too.

**Skidcom** · 11-16-10, 07:52 PM

They do like to recycle the "legends" Win one SB - get job for life...amazing, especially when the coach has maybe 5% credit with winning the SB

**PANAMHIEST** · 11-16-10, 08:54 PM

just make a buncha jimmy johnson clones

**slacker00** · 11-16-10, 09:12 PM

John Madden in a radio interview a week or so ago talked about how he was getting offers to coach in the NFL well into the 90's.