Bracketology

Illusion · 02-12-06, 01:29 PM

I see them as a number 2. If they win out they get the 1 seed.

BuddyBear · 02-12-06, 01:30 PM

It's all about MSU this year....great team, great coach, great fans like me.

bigboydan · 02-12-06, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by Illusion

I see them as a number 2. If they win out they get the 1 seed.

your crazy ILL...

theres no way in hell they get a 1 or 2 seeds if they win out. you gotta look at there RPI rankings, along with there remaining schedual.

bigboydan · 02-12-06, 01:35 PM

what i'm really curious to see is...

#1. just how many times will the big east really get this year.

#2. how many MVC teams will make it.

#3. will bucknell make it if they don't win there conference tourny.

Illusion · 02-12-06, 01:49 PM

The A-10 is down a bit, but if they win out including their conference tournament they will have 30 wins against one loss. That would warrent a number one seed or at worst a number two.

bigboydan · 02-12-06, 01:50 PM

do i hear a bet brewing on this one ILL ??

Illusion · 02-12-06, 01:52 PM

I already proved that I know more about college hoops. I don't have to do it again.

bigboydan · 02-12-06, 01:53 PM

ok ILL, i'll take that reply as your "chicken" then.

Illusion · 02-12-06, 01:55 PM

I share an opinion and becuase you don't agree we have to bet.

If that were the case I would have open bets with half our members.

onlooker · 02-12-06, 01:55 PM

I see we have a feud here. Should be interesting to see who is right.

bigboydan · 02-12-06, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by Illusion

I share an opinion and becuase you don't agree we have to bet.

If that were the case I would have open bets with half our members.

ILL If you remember. i'm still entitled to a double or nothing bet steaming from our last bet.

Winston Smith · 02-12-06, 03:15 PM

What's going to hurt George Washington is that they have no wins against a team in the top 50 of the RPI. They haven't played anyone, and the committee always says they don't reward teams for playing a weak schedule.

Illusion · 02-12-06, 03:16 PM

They beat Maryland.

onlooker · 02-12-06, 03:17 PM

I would have to agree, a stronger conference team would get the higher nod before GW. Even if they are nationally ranked lower. But stranger things have happen on selection sunday.

onlooker · 02-12-06, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by Illusion

They beat Maryland.

Maryland isnt very strong sitting at 41. But it is a good win for GW.

The Great One · 02-12-06, 04:07 PM

I'm new here, but there is no way George Washington will get or derserve a 1 seed. They are primed for an upset anyway. Very overated team. Just athletic, but not alot of basketball skill. They should have lost yesterday to a very power St. Joseph team with Jameer Nelson and Delonte West. No, wait that was two years ago. No, St. Joe does suck and they win by two HAHA Just being faciscious. I think their biggest win this year(GW) has been against NC State.

bigboydan · 02-12-06, 04:26 PM

very acurate post the great one.

you sound college hoops knowlageable. i sure hope you post here more often

JDK192 · 02-12-06, 04:48 PM

I don't think there is any way GW gets a 1 or 2 seed regardless of whether they run the table convincingly or not. Uconn, Duke, Memphis, and Villanova are locks for 1 or 2 seeds, without a total collapse or injury, even if any of these four exit thier conference tourny early they'll still be a 2 seed. Then the best team in the Big Ten never gets less than a 2 seed (could be any one of 4 teams depending how the rest of the season plays out). The Best team in SEC never gets less than a 2 seed and Florida is a shoe in at 1 or 2 if they keep playing well. Then you have only 2 #2 seeds left. Big 12 and Pac 10 are both somewhat weak this year but much more respected than the horrendous A-10 this year. On top of that you have Gonzaga, with an easy schedule and already more respect than GW that would get a 2 seed before them. If GW wins out, which they will, they get a 3 seed.

onlooker · 02-12-06, 05:02 PM

I think the highest they get is a #4 seed, if they run the table the rest of the season. Too many other strong teams from power conferences that will get the 1s, 2s, and 3s. So a #4 isnt out of the question for GW, but they must win the rest of their games.

bigboydan · 02-12-06, 05:02 PM

JD, i'm not sold on Villanova getting a #1 seed this year. there will only be one #1 seed comming out of the big east this year, and think that will be Uconn.

JDK192 · 02-12-06, 05:15 PM

BBD, Vill may not get #1 seed but unless they lose to Uconn both times, G'Town, and then exit Big East Touney early I don't see them falling past #2 seed. Two #1 seeds come out of the same conference all the time in the tourny. Tex & Ok, I think 2 or 3 years ago. Maryland & Duke the year before that. Mich St & Ill the year before that. I can remember Ari and Stan #1 seeds as well in '99 or '00. You must agree that the Big East is head and shoulders above every other conference this year, maybe ever. They are a shoe in to get 8 teams and possibly up to 10 (I doubt though) in the tourney. So the second best team in the best conference surely won't fall beyond a #2 seed.

onlooker · 02-12-06, 05:20 PM

I do agree that the Big East is one if not the top conference, but the RPI has the Big Ten as the top conference in their rankings. Then the Big East.

JDK192 · 02-12-06, 05:31 PM

That will change this week though onlooker. Ill and Mich St both got blown out. All 3 teams in the Big East in the top 10 RPI had convincing victories. There's a lot of hoops left to be played before selection Sunday but there is only 1 Big Ten team in the top Ten in the polls right now and they got killed today, although Ohio St may be in the top 10 next week. I would be shocked if the Big Ten had more than one #1 or #2 seed (they'll definately have one or the other) in the NCAA tourney and would also be shocked if the Big East didn't have 2 either #1 or #2 seeds (Pitt and G'town) also playing strong and if WVU hits another streak like they did last year don't count them out.

bigboydan · 02-12-06, 06:50 PM

JD, what it is all gonna come down to with nova is the conference tourny.

pags11 · 02-13-06, 02:13 AM

I'm seeing maybe two teams from the WAC...

onlooker · 02-13-06, 02:17 AM

I think only one team will come out of the MWC, and that is whoever wins the conference tournament. I hope its UNLV, but San Diego St. is a tough team, and BYU showed some game yesterday against UNLV.

I cant wait to next season, thats when the MWC Tournament comes back to the Thomas and Mack, or Tarkanian Court.

bigboydan · 02-13-06, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by pags11

I'm seeing maybe two teams from the WAC...

wake up pags, because your dreaming. i'd sure like to hear you make a case for this one comment.

pags11 · 02-13-06, 04:04 PM

Dan,

how much college basketball do you really watch?...obviously the WAC will get one because of the automatic...If Utah St. or La. Tech win the conference tournament, I definitely think Nevada will get an automatic bid (as stated by Joe Linardi last night on college gamenight)...If Nevada wins the conference tournament, then possibly...and I state possibly, Utah St. could get a bid...La. Tech is a solid NIT team at this point, but they have played a good schedule...so that's my case and it will depend on who wins the WAC tourney...

btw, Linardi also believes there will be 5 from the Pac 10...I honestly think Washington and Arizona are the worst of the bunch because of their inability to come to play everynight (however, they are probably two of most talented teams behind UCLA)...Cal, UCLA and Stanford (yes I think they get it) round out the five...

bigboydan · 02-13-06, 04:33 PM

pags, i watch enough of it to know there gonna only get one team. the only way they get 2 teams is if nevada loses the conference tourny, and frankly i don't see that happening.

bigboydan · 02-21-06, 01:54 PM

the cuse won a big game, and are making there run right about now. whats it gonna take for them to get off that bubble ?

Illusion · 02-21-06, 01:59 PM

They won two huge games at home and I think that's enough for now. They can't afford any major slip ups down the stretch.

pags11 · 02-21-06, 05:00 PM

Syracuse's stock is definitely rising...

bigboydan · 02-22-06, 01:44 AM

Syracuse is a really danerous team this time of the year. so you better not take them lightly in regards to your capping guys.

isetcap · 02-22-06, 02:00 AM

Originally posted by Illusion

The A-10 is down a bit, but if they win out including their conference tournament they will have 30 wins against one loss. That would warrent a number one seed or at worst a number two.

I have to agree somewhat with Ill on this topic. GW is going to have exactly the same record going into the tournament that Nelson and West had the year they tried to go undefeated. Obviously GW's schedule is weak but if they were undefeated at the moment, they would be ranked number 1 in the nation and they would receive a number 1 seed. If they win out the rest of the way, then they will receive a number 2. It's as simple as that. Strength of schedule becomes a much larger factor when considering who to include in the tournament.

If Puke had played all D3 teams prior to the ACC schedule and had the exact same record they have right now, do you actually think they wouldn't receive a 1 seed? The ACC sucks this year and Puke has been tested by mediocre teams yet their 1 seed is virtually automatic so don't be surprised by seeing GW with a number 2 if they win out.