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  • iifold
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 04-25-10
    • 11111

    #1
    Kings Corner (You Want Some Money???)
    If you slow down for a second, forget about the elections and Puppet Obama, you may be able to take something from this thread and turn it into some money. There will be many different paths for you to take to get this money in the end, I'm just hoping to lay the foundation for you to get started. Now I know most are here to gamble and feed an addiction for action this very second, you're gonna have to fight this.. So put aside a couple hundred bucks and take a chance here...

    We are going to focus mainly on the Miami Dolphins. Yeah, the Chad Henne lead Miami Dolphins.. My eyeballs tell me they are easily the most UNDER VALUED team in the NFL right this second, and that's all that really matters is value (unless of course tonights "action" play on the Timberwolves +18.5 is the Last bet you'll ever make) I think these Dolphins are already a top 5 team and with even a little luck could end up your Super Bowl Champs..

    The Foundation

    Dolphins 70-1 to win Super Bowl $100 to win $7000


    For the purpose of tracking this thread and seeing if it is successful in the end, I will be using a $1000 bankroll. With $100 going on the initial future (Dolphins to win SB)

    Hopefully we can discuss different angles or paths we can take to turn this foundation into profits..

    Obviously I feel the Dolphins will make the playoffs, and just sitting on this future until playoff time would be profitable... but others may want to "hedge" along the way and take a more conservative approach.

    There are a couple wildcard spots that will be available, and I expect 4 teams to fight for these 2 spots..(sorry Texans fans, you don't have a shot.)

    Ravens 5-2 +850
    Jets 5-2 +1000
    Dolphins 4-3 +7000
    Titans 5-3 +2200

    Forget about past results, or stupid weather stats on the road.. Just ask yourself this.. From what you have seen this year..

    Do those future odds make sense??

    some may say they do... now look at the Dolphins remaining schedule and ask yourself again...

    @BAL
    TEN
    CHI
    @OAK
    CLE
    @NYJ
    BUF
    DET
    @NWE

    The Ravens and Titans games in the next few weeks will pretty much tell us everything we need to know.(Timing is everything) They could easily split, lose both, or win both...but even if they lose the next 2, a 6-1 finish is not out of the question, especially if the Patriots rest players on the last day of the season.

    Anyways, i'd like to see what everyone thinks... Personally, I think the Dolphins beat the Ravens this week but I kinda think teasing the Ravens or betting them on the ML would be a nice "hedge" against this future. If the Dolphins win this week their future odds will have to drop to around 20-1...

    What do you think?


    King

    Pending:
    Dolphins to win SB 70-1 $100-$7000

    Remaining:$900

    Winnings:$0
  • LVBOUND
    SBR MVP
    • 07-25-08
    • 2658

    #2
    I heard you died?
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    • Grits n' Gravy
      Restricted User
      • 06-10-10
      • 13024

      #3
      wish you luck, but you are pissing your money away.
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      • rfr3sh
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 11-07-09
        • 10229

        #4
        if they make a run most definately good for hedging purposes
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        • iifold
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 04-25-10
          • 11111

          #5
          Originally posted by rfr3sh
          if they make a run most definately good for hedging purposes


          one of the best teams in football Fresher..

          hop on this train before the secret gets out..

          Name another team that has all of the following..

          Shutdown Corner
          Superstar Receiver
          Dominating Pass Rusher
          Smart QB
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          • LVBOUND
            SBR MVP
            • 07-25-08
            • 2658

            #6
            King the Dolphins have no chance in hell of making it to the Super Bowl. Let alone win the damn thing
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            • BatemanPatrickl
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 06-21-07
              • 18772

              #7
              Originally posted by LVBOUND
              I heard you died?
              You must have been dreaming; King is 49 so he may have another year or two left. When he passes I am throwing a party.
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              • MartinBlank
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 07-20-08
                • 8382

                #8
                The Dolphins?

                Is this some sort of joke?

                Its a bad bet. They Dolphins could win the game but still not make the playoffs.

                They are 4-3.....road trips to Baltimore, NE, and the Jets.

                They also have a road trip to Oakland, and a home game with Tennessee.

                Nothing on that schedule makes me think they are going to the playoffs for certain, let alone make a Super Bowl win.

                Here is what you are missing about Miami. They are in the same division as arguably the 2 best teams in the AFC----NE and the Jets. They have to compete for that remaining wildcard spot against teams that have much easier schedules. NE won't be taking any rest if the Jets on 1 game out with 1 remaining.

                Your bet is going to fail.
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                • iifold
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 04-25-10
                  • 11111

                  #9
                  Originally posted by LVBOUND
                  King the Dolphins have no chance in hell of making it to the Super Bowl. Let alone win the damn thing
                  Do you watch football?

                  The Dolphins 3 loses this year:

                  1. Steelers.. lost on the last play in Pit, some think they should have won. (most think Steelers are the best team in Football)

                  2. Jets.. Had chance to tie it late, Jets scored fluke long TD (B.Edwards) when db slipped..

                  3. Patriots.. were in control of game all first half, were the better team..Special teams meltdown lead to blowout..


                  So there is the 3 teams they have lost to.. Some think these are the 3 best teams in the best conference in football..To say they have no chance is crazy.. let alone 70 to fukkin 1...
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                  • minet123
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-17-07
                    • 10280

                    #10
                    Foldy
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                    • LVBOUND
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-25-08
                      • 2658

                      #11
                      King your on crack. I live in south Florida. The dolphins are the biggest fraud in the nfl. Don't be fooled.
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                      • yisman
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 09-01-08
                        • 75682

                        #12
                        The Dolphins are not a top 5 team.

                        If the Dolphins win this week their future odds will have to drop to around 20-1...
                        One regular season win isn't going to move a line from 70/1 to 20/1.

                        That wouldn't happen even if Miami won 41-3.
                        [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                        [/quote]

                        [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                        • iifold
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 04-25-10
                          • 11111

                          #13
                          Originally posted by yisman
                          The Dolphins are not a top 5 team.

                          One regular season win isn't going to move a line from 70/1 to 20/1.

                          That wouldn't happen even if Miami won 41-3.
                          So one win won't drop the line??

                          Can "Kings Corner" drop the line ??because it's dropped all of a sudden to 50-1 within 8 HOURS of this thread being started...

                          Stay Tuned...

                          King
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                          • onetrickpony
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 08-23-10
                            • 9434

                            #14
                            king ur def right here, if u follow mia then u know this team is saving their good stuff, there cruising along. they dont take shots downfield, they arent using the 2 headed monsters in the backfield, this team is using the basics, the d just got to full strength with crowder coming back. if not this year then next year mia should be a favorite.
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                            • BatemanPatrickl
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 06-21-07
                              • 18772

                              #15
                              Originally posted by iifold
                              So one win won't drop the line?? Can "Kings Corner" drop the line ??because it's dropped all of a sudden to 50-1 within 8 HOURS of this thread being started... Stay Tuned... King
                              49 year old fat guys that refer to themselves as King while jerking off to the Star Ledger sports section don't move lines.
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                              • iifold
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 04-25-10
                                • 11111

                                #16
                                BaitMen,

                                Explain the drop from 70-1 to 50-1 within hours of this thread being made...
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                                • yisman
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 09-01-08
                                  • 75682

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by iifold
                                  So one win won't drop the line??
                                  You didn't read my post.

                                  One regular season win isn't going to move a line from 70/1 to 20/1.
                                  That's what I said.
                                  [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                  [/quote]

                                  [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                  • BatemanPatrickl
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 06-21-07
                                    • 18772

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by iifold
                                    BaitMen, Explain the drop from 70-1 to 50-1 within hours of this thread being made...
                                    Eggnog or Colt or IIfold explain why you went all in on the Brewers or why your posted plays are now 2-6-1 since I have been tracking. Grow up fat boy and I mean that Try acting like you're 49 for once.
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                                    • iifold
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 04-25-10
                                      • 11111

                                      #19
                                      Mods,

                                      get this piece of shit Baitman out of my threads..

                                      I don't care if he's a higher up or SBRJohns ghost account..

                                      Don't make me expose this fukk..
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                                      • piecemaker
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 10-14-10
                                        • 110

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by iifold


                                        one of the best teams in football Fresher..

                                        hop on this train before the secret gets out..

                                        Name another team that has all of the following..

                                        Shutdown Corner
                                        Superstar Receiver
                                        Dominating Pass Rusher
                                        Smart QB
                                        Ill name two teams that have all the following:

                                        Giants:
                                        shutdown corner: corey webster
                                        superstar reciever: hakeem nicks & steve smith.
                                        dominating pass rush: umeniyor, tuck, pierre paul.....
                                        smart qb: Eli Manning.

                                        Packers:
                                        shutdown corner: woodson
                                        superstar reciever: greg jennings
                                        dominating pass rush: clay matthews.
                                        smart qb: Aaron Rodgers.

                                        Dolphins are a really good team, but they are not gonna win superbowl this year.
                                        Last edited by piecemaker; 11-04-10, 06:45 PM.
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                                        • slacker00
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 10-06-05
                                          • 12262

                                          #21
                                          70-1 would be reasonable odds for any live dog in the playoffs. Thing is, I don't see Miami in the playoffs this year because I could easily see an AFC team going 11-5 this year and missing the playoffs because there are too many good teams this year in the AFC. Miami is down on tiebreakers to key teams in the playoff race. Not only would Miami have to start winning their home games (all of them in fact), but they'd need to split on the road against 4 of the hottest teams in the NFL: NYJ, NE, BAL, OAK. Maybe they can do it, but there's a reason why it's a longshot. Even then, they could be sitting @ 11-5 and still be on the outside looking in come playoff time because they are already behind on tiebreakers. Realistically, they need some of these opposing teams to start fading big time in addition to finishing strong themselves.

                                          This week, Miami going to Baltimore is almost a must-win pseudo playoff game for both teams. If you really think Miami is for real, this is an excellent chance to back them on the ML this week and get some excellent odds. For me, I think the line is about right. Miami is a bit below Baltimore, which is reflected in this line. Miami might win, but I wouldn't bet on it. But if Miami loses this weekend, they almost have to sweep the rest of the season going 8-0 to have a solid shot at the playoffs, every game becomes an elimination type game, otherwise they'll be looking for backdoor routes into the playoffs.
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                                          • OnenOnlyMush
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 07-08-10
                                            • 237

                                            #22
                                            I'm not aware the Dolphins have or had a shutdown corner..enlighten me, what's his name?

                                            @Piecemaker Corey Webster is NOT a shut down corner
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                                            • ufcmma36
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-22-10
                                              • 1065

                                              #23
                                              Lets go Bucs!!!!!!!lol
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                                              • BatemanPatrickl
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 06-21-07
                                                • 18772

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by iifold
                                                Mods, get this piece of shit Baitman out of my threads.. I don't care if he's a higher up or SBRJohns ghost account.. Don't make me expose this fukk..
                                                Expose me fatty. I dare you. Queen.
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                                                • rsnnh12
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 09-26-10
                                                  • 3487

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by OnenOnlyMush
                                                  I'm not aware the Dolphins have or had a shutdown corner..enlighten me, what's his name?

                                                  @Piecemaker Corey Webster is NOT a shut down corner
                                                  Must be referring to Vontae Davis, who is a damn good CB. Not sure I'd call him a shutdown corner yet, but the guy is going to be a stud.



                                                  No way the Dolphins win the SB this year though. They'll be lucky to make the playoffs, and I think they'll finish 7-9.

                                                  @BAL - good team
                                                  TEN - good team
                                                  CHI - Jay Cutler... should be an easy win
                                                  @OAK - surprisingly good team
                                                  CLE - surprisingly good team
                                                  @NYJ - top 5 in NFL
                                                  BUF - getting better by the week
                                                  DET - surprisingly good team
                                                  @NWE - at Gillette, in January? No way

                                                  Only 2 of these teams are bad, and I think Buffalo actually has a chance to win


                                                  Good luck though
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                                                  • Squirrel
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 06-11-09
                                                    • 1316

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by rsnnh12
                                                    @BAL - good team
                                                    TEN - good team
                                                    CHI - Jay Cutler... should be an easy win
                                                    @OAK - surprisingly good team
                                                    CLE - surprisingly good team
                                                    @NYJ - top 5 in NFL
                                                    BUF - getting better by the week
                                                    DET - surprisingly good team
                                                    @NWE - at Gillette, in January?
                                                    They're not surprisingly good teams IMO, they are surprisingly over-performing .... in which case regression could be an absolute bitch. I like the bet as a hedging opportunity but nothing more, not really seeing a way in which the Dolphins could win it all, unless the NFL referees have been having lunch with NBA refs too often...

                                                    (Despite not liking iifold particularly I enjoy this type of thread and enjoy people who respond saliently with points to back up their arguments ... shame you always get the odd trashtalker who comes in with a bunch of personal shit yet offers nothing to the topic in question.)
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                                                    • slacker00
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 10-06-05
                                                      • 12262

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Squirrel
                                                      They're not surprisingly good teams IMO, they are surprisingly over-performing .... in which case regression could be an absolute bitch. I like the bet as a hedging opportunity but nothing more, not really seeing a way in which the Dolphins could win it all...
                                                      Why make a bet with the expectation of hedging?! Why not just bet the weekly ML if you like a team. Futures are huge juice, then paying more juice to book a hedge against yourself? That's just burning money. If you like a bet, ride it out, unless somehow things have changed and you don't like it anymore. I'm baffled by anyone who would book a bet with the expectation of betting the other side as well. It just seems insanely stupid.

                                                      I agree that the Bills & Lions are NOT good teams. They are pesky teams that might pull an upset here and there, nothing more. Raiders, OTOH, are a good team right now. I'm not sure if the Raiders will still implode, but they are capable of beating good teams week in and week out. KC @ Oak should reveal a lot about both of these teams this weekend. I think we'll find that KC isn't really ready for the big time just yet while Oakland, surprisingly, is ready.
                                                      Last edited by slacker00; 11-05-10, 01:18 PM.
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                                                      • iifold
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 04-25-10
                                                        • 11111

                                                        #28
                                                        KC and Oakland are NOT good teams..

                                                        The winner of their game should be faded in their next game..

                                                        The Dolphins would pound both of these teams..
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                                                        • BatemanPatrickl
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 06-21-07
                                                          • 18772

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by iifold
                                                          KC and Oakland are NOT good teams.. The winner of their game should be faded in their next game.. The Dolphins would pound both of these teams..
                                                          EggNog when was the last time you saw a naked woman...in person...not a stripper or escort?
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                                                          • onetrickpony
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 08-23-10
                                                            • 9434

                                                            #30
                                                            eli smart qb haha dude has so much talent around just like rodgers. who does henne have besides top 5 wr and a decent slot wr, this team is doing work with the players they have and i cant say enough about that d. when a team goes 4-0 on the road u have to give them a shot, shows they can ball at anybodys building
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                                                            • slacker00
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 10-06-05
                                                              • 12262

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by iifold
                                                              KC and Oakland are NOT good teams..

                                                              The winner of their game should be faded in their next game..

                                                              The Dolphins would pound both of these teams..
                                                              Miami @ Oakland week 12. We'll see. It'll be a good game. Miami is no cinch to win that game by any stretch.
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                                                              • iifold
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 04-25-10
                                                                • 11111

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by slacker00
                                                                Miami @ Oakland week 12. We'll see. It'll be a good game. Miami is no cinch to win that game by any stretch.
                                                                Game will be close to a pick'em and Dolphins will win by 6+..
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                                                                • Trucker George
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 01-09-10
                                                                  • 194

                                                                  #33
                                                                  You lost me at "We are going to focus mainly on the Miami Dolphins".

                                                                  Carry on. Have fun.
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                                                                  • piecemaker
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 10-14-10
                                                                    • 110

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by OnenOnlyMush
                                                                    I'm not aware the Dolphins have or had a shutdown corner..enlighten me, what's his name?

                                                                    @Piecemaker Corey Webster is NOT a shut down corner
                                                                    I know corey webseter is not a shut down corner theres only maybe 3 or 4 in the whole league, but neither is vontae davis, hes very good, but not shutdown, and webster is of his caliber if not better, i just put him there to make a point, and by the way corey has only allowed 8 passes in 7 games...
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                                                                    • yisman
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 09-01-08
                                                                      • 75682

                                                                      #35
                                                                      They lost to Baltimore, as expected, and benched their "smart QB".

                                                                      The line is moving the other way.

                                                                      Vontae Davis is a good corner, but not a shutdown corner.

                                                                      Revis and Asomugha would be only two I'd classify as shutdown.
                                                                      [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                                      [/quote]

                                                                      [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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