Is recruiting a part of coaching college sports?

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  • mofome
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    • 12-19-07
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    #1
    Is recruiting a part of coaching college sports?
    when ranking the best coaches, do you take recruiting into consideration?
  • NEP Dynasty
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    • 10-17-06
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    #2
    It's definitly a big part. But, you can recruit the most talented kids in the country, and if you can't coach a lick, you won't be winning many National Championships in my opinion.
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    • mofome
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      #3
      Originally posted by NEP Dynasty
      It's definitly a big part. But, you can recruit the most talented kids in the country, and if you can't coach a lick, you won't be winning many National Championships in my opinion.


      if your ranking coaches, lets talk about nick saban, how do you rank the guy? i mean he takes over a decent team and loses to la monroe, but he backs that up by bringing in the nations #1 recruiting class. hes one a national title, but only with the best players.
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      • Quebb Diesel
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        #4
        just look at illinois
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        • mofome
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          #5
          Originally posted by Quebb Diesel
          just look at illinois


          Locksley?


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          • Quebb Diesel
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            #6
            Originally posted by mofome
            if your ranking coaches, lets talk about nick saban, how do you rank the guy? i mean he takes over a decent team and loses to la monroe, but he backs that up by bringing in the nations #1 recruiting class. hes one a national title, but only with the best players.
            his players just won a national title this year...
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            • Quebb Diesel
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              #7
              Originally posted by mofome
              Locksley?


              zook pulled a top 10 recruiting class last year on a team that had like 5 wins in the past 2 or 3 years...id definitely say recruiting is party of coaching ncaaf...ill wouldve never pulled any of those players w/o zook at head coach
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              • mofome
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                #8
                Originally posted by Quebb Diesel
                zook pulled a top 10 recruiting class last year on a team that had like 5 wins in the past 2 or 3 years...id definitely say recruiting is party of coaching ncaaf...ill wouldve never pulled any of those players w/o zook at head coach


                i believe that Locksley is the big recruiter there. in fact, i know that he is. Davis, Benn, and these guys didnt come for Zook. No doubt that zook does a decent job, but life will get tougher once Locksley gets a HC offer.
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                • Quebb Diesel
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by mofome
                  i believe that Locksley is the big recruiter there. in fact, i know that he is. Davis, Benn, and these guys didnt come for Zook. No doubt that zook does a decent job, but life will get tougher once Locksley gets a HC offer.
                  and who was locksley coaching for in 2003-2004?
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                  • mofome
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Quebb Diesel
                    and who was locksley coaching for in 2003-2004?


                    florida.


                    ty.
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                    • Quebb Diesel
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                      #11
                      ha ha...im sure zook brought him w/ him...so i guess correction: coaching (including their staff) plays a part in recruiting
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                      • mofome
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Quebb Diesel
                        and who was locksley coaching for in 2003-2004?


                        that question didn't go as planned did it.

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                        • Quebb Diesel
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by mofome
                          that question didn't go as planned did it.

                          yeah b/c he was working under zook @ florida...
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                          • mofome
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Quebb Diesel
                            ha ha...im sure zook brought him w/ him...so i guess correction: coaching (including their staff) plays a part in recruiting


                            yeah thats was funny, i was hoping you would ask. locksley cleans up the dc/md area and fact is, a lot of the younger african american guys are great recruiters. the kids feel that they can relate and locksley is probably the best at it. his son is at illinois now so im not sure if he'll leave, but ive got to think someone will take a chance on him. perhaps cuse.
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                            • mofome
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Quebb Diesel
                              yeah b/c he was working under zook @ florida...


                              yes, obviously. he was the recruiting coordinator and rb coach. the reply was not what you expected it to be and it made for good times, thats all.
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                              • Quebb Diesel
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                                #16
                                i didnt even know cuse had a football program?
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                                • Quebb Diesel
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by mofome
                                  yes, obviously. he was the recruiting coordinator and rb coach. the reply was not what you expected it to be and it made for good times, thats all.
                                  yeah its all good...45 brews son...thats whatll make for a good time...
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                                  • mofome
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Quebb Diesel
                                    i didnt even know cuse had a football program?


                                    haha they used to. my uncle was their OC for a couple years. he coached them with mcnabb and marvin graves and those teams held a lot of big-east records. since then they've been embarrassing. i was hoping he would get a call for the HC job up there, mcnabb has spoke up for him a bit, but they haven't called.
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                                    • mofome
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Quebb Diesel
                                      yeah its all good...45 brews son...thats whatll make for a good time...

                                      45 beers is what life is all about.
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                                      • Quebb Diesel
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by mofome
                                        haha they used to. my uncle was their OC for a couple years. he coached them with mcnabb and marvin graves and those teams held a lot of big-east records. since then they've been embarrassing. i was hoping he would get a call for the HC job up there, mcnabb has spoke up for him a bit, but they haven't called.
                                        ooooh yeah im a retard...freeney went there too...kinda crazy the talent they produced in the nfl if you ask me!
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                                        • mofome
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Quebb Diesel
                                          ooooh yeah im a retard...freeney went there too...kinda crazy the talent they produced in the nfl if you ask me!


                                          marvin harrison and some others as well. they used to be loaded. they went to the BCS a couple times and got mauled.
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                                          • BAUS
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                                            #22
                                            Head coaches don't do the grunt work involved in recruiting. That falls on the assistant coaches. Head coach just gets credit for it.

                                            BAUS
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                                            • The Seer
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                                              • 10-29-07
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by BAUS
                                              Head coaches don't do the grunt work involved in recruiting. That falls on the assistant coaches. Head coach just gets credit for it.

                                              BAUS
                                              Head coaches did it at one time though. I just met Les Miles a couple of weeks ago. That guy could recruit like gang busters if he wanted. He sold me and I've seen all kinds come through.
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                                              • mofome
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by The Seer
                                                Head coaches did it at one time though. I just met Les Miles a couple of weeks ago. That guy could recruit like gang busters if he wanted. He sold me and I've seen all kinds come through.


                                                haha how did he sell you? ive heard fulmer is as good as they come. recruiting to a place that has little in-state talent aint easy.
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                                                • The Seer
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by mofome
                                                  haha how did he sell you? ive heard fulmer is as good as they come. recruiting to a place that has little in-state talent aint easy.
                                                  The last thing Fulmer talks to you about is football. He asks about family and such. At least that is my experience. Miles just talks about how much fun he has at LSU and how fun the experiences of the past year were. He said OSU had no grit. They had been in wars every week and weren't worried at all by OSU's fast start.
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