Death, a question for the older forumites

[turnip]

For those of us that can't fool ourselves into believing in eternal life, I think staying active is the best way to "get over" your mortality.

Columbus supposedly asked his crew what they would be doing if they weren't out on the ocean, risking their lives. Would they really be happy, or would they just be either troubled or bored? At least by risking their lives and constantly sailing into the unknown, they weren't bored, and they valued their life and things many take for granted.

You're more likely to get hung up on your mortality when you're bored.

[Jamie_UK]

I wonder how many people started to blink like crazy when they read that?

lol

[Jamie_UK]

I'm 34, but I've thought about death as much as anyone.

I'm actually excited about death. I'm curious what's on the other side. I mean, it's kinda scary, not knowing, but it's also the ultimate curiosity because nobody knows. When my time comes, it comes, and there's not much anyone can do about it barring suicide, so it's pointless to think about it because there isn't much that can be done about it.

Scarier is life itself. Death seems simpler, cleaner, easier. Life is complicated and difficult.

Obviously, things like torture, pain, struggle, etc have a certain connotation to living things. But these are mortal concerns. In the big picture, these concepts are probably trivial.

the only thing on the other side is taxomax ie phuck all.

[chandler1981]

Jamie,
What is FFS?

[Jamie_UK]

For those of us that can't fool ourselves into believing in eternal life, I think staying active is the best way to "get over" your mortality.

Columbus supposedly asked his crew what they would be doing if they weren't out on the ocean, risking their lives. Would they really be happy, or would they just be either troubled or bored? At least by risking their lives and constantly sailing into the unknown, they weren't bored, and they valued their life and things many take for granted.

You're more likely to get hung up on your mortality when you're bored.

too much time to think about things...... hmmm good point.

[Jamie_UK]

Jamie,
What is FFS?

for fuks sake

[Dark Horse]

Death is my best friend.

[Junkyard Dog]

death is just the last stage in the life cycle, nothing to be afraid of jaime. at the same time you die a baby is born, the beginning and end.

[Jamie_UK]

death is just the last stage in the life cycle, nothing to be afraid of jaime. at the same time you die a baby is born, the beginning and end.

yeah like lol

what about me? fek the baby

will it hurt?

[chandler1981]

for fuks sake

Thats what I thought but wanted to make sure.

So you wanted to ask the question but didnt want a response? I feel like I have dealt with death more than most ppl. I am sorry that was the only part of my post you read. Sorry I couldnt help.


If you want, I will not respond to any of your threads. Just let me know.

[Jamie_UK]

Thats what I thought but wanted to make sure.

So you wanted to ask the question but didnt want a response? I feel like I have dealt with death more than most ppl. I am sorry that was the only part of my post you read. Sorry I couldnt help.


If you want, I will not respond to any of your threads. Just let me know.

Chandler you are a religious person.

We are miles apart

[INVEGA MAN]

will it hurt?

Hell yes, dying hurts

[chandler1981]

I have alot of friend who arent religious. I don't think anything less of them or anybody who isn't.

I was just attempting to say, I don't worry about death because I know where I am going.

We agree on one thing, I do not wanna die either.

Hope you live a long long time and maybe nature will keep us from thinking about it as we get older like you suggest.

[Doc JS]

Everybody wants to go to Heaven...not everybody wants to go today.

Doc

[thezbar]

Nature will take its course with our physical body. Blood, bones and skin one day, to be transformed into ash at a later date.
Physical death is just one turn in the cycle of life'
Energy doesn't die. I have no fear whatsoever.
You never know< perhaps what we think is life is actually death and we don't know what life is.
Belleau Wood 1918

[BrentCrude]

If you live in a small town,walk around the grave yard.

I live in a pretty small town where I have lived all my life and knew just about everyone and the lifestyles they lived.I'm 48 and it's taken me this long to be able to assess what life is all about and when you look at the graveyard headstones it's sort of like looking at the sports scores the day after you made a bunch of bets.By that I mean you now have the results of how everything turned out for everyone you knew in life.You have allot of people that you remember as hell raisers who died young from car crashes,drug use,having allot of kids with different women in dysfunctional homes,suicide and alcoholism.If you grew up with someone like that you thought they somehow would grow out of it before it killed them but many don't eascape death.Usually you die young in these situations because it takes it's toll on a person.

Then you have your old people who went around preaching the values of hard work where they never enjoyed anything in life not spending a dime.Their major thing in life was to attend church,get involved in useless civic crap or politics where they thought they would leave some legacy.A few days after they croak everyone forgets about them.Being a so called good worker,not having any fun and living your life to impress people just leaves you with a clean looking obituary and you end up with the people I mentioned above who have dirty obituaries.You might live a few years longer but all that BS you put out in life took it's toll on you so usually you don't live that long.

There is something to be said for being a slacker where you don't set your goals too high where you don't work 80 hours a week,want a mansion and all the toys and hit your parents and your wife's parents up for money etc.You live longer when you don't have stress and when you work less you have less wear and tear on the body and by not getting involved in butting your ass into politics or do good civic crap you live longer.You have come to terms with the fact that the whole system is one big crap crock and you just stand on the sidelines not wanting to participate.Who gives a rats ass care what people think of you when you croak at 95.All the phonies that knew you have been dead for years anyway.Hillary and Bill might be worm food much sooner than later and some passive guy that never hurt anyone and just lived like a slob drinking beer,eating the wrong food and too much of it and enjoying the simple things in life might live to be 100.

Anyone who made it through life not hurting anyone and having a great time and living to be a ripe old age won the game in my book.

[HAPPY BOY]

Jamie, when I was 27 I was waiting to fall asleep. My wife was sound asleep as were my 2 boys. The house was real quite as I stared at my beedroom cieling, I all of a sudden had an image of me below ground in a coffin. I know this sounds wierd, but I finally became aware of my mortality. I woke up the next day, and for the next 2 years all I could think of was my demise. There was nothing I could do to stop it. One day I was gonna die. It got so overwelming that I almost had to go see a shrink. Then the thought began to fade, I accepted my death as part of a natural order. I am not religious nor do i believe in life after death. I do believe in nature and the natural order of things, I realize that what we do in this world is it. Once we die its like turning off a light switch.

[SPECULATOR 13]

at 37, i find myself often in concern about my own mortality

My question is, as you get older, does nature prepare you for death ? in the blink of an eye, i will be 47,57 67, then dead at some stage

so how come old people dont worry about it so much? is it nature?

Jamie old chum (i am 38)if you ever get the chance to get a book by a great British writer name Maurice Cotterell is website is (mauricecotterell.com)He as written a masterpiece call "The Tutankhamun Prophecies"where he explain life after death base on archaeological digs witch he has personally conducted and where he as also found some irrefutable evidences on the subject of death and what fallows.The beauty of Cotterell's book is that both a atheist and bible freak can remain steadfast in their original philosophical position even after agreeing with Cotterell discoveries.By the way he is also a Electro Magnetic Engineer.

Also you can have what is "The last word"on the subject of the origin of man if you read Zecharia Sitchin (www.sitchin.com/)
and these 2 books he wrote:The 12th Planet-The Stairway to Heaven you will find them on his website,you might have to dig a bit for it.They should give you the answer you need or at very least will make for interesting read during the long summer months.

[rob]

Jamie,
I think that as you grow older you'll be more able to accept death. Have you ever noticed at funerals how it's usually those who are younger who are most distraught? I've found that age (I'm 52) tends to lessen the pain.
I'm also a Christian and I have a firm belief of a great after-life once I'm gone from here. My greatest concern about death is in the way I die. I'd hate to succumb to cancer or a similar disease, not just for my own sake but because all of the grief it would give those close to me, just as I have suffered through with others in the past.
I don't mean to preach, but being a Christian gives you the belief and comfort that a greater life awaits you after your physical death. For myself, I would be greatly fearful of death if it wasn't for my beliefs.