how often, if ever, do you favctor in psychological factors into your capping?

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  • mofome
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-19-07
    • 13003

    #1
    how often, if ever, do you favctor in psychological factors into your capping?
    look ahead games, tough losses, death of a player or someone close to the team, or any number of things. ive got an nba system, that i have to do more research on, thats 100% psychological.
  • shady610
    SBR MVP
    • 01-12-06
    • 1570

    #2
    never did really. its hard to determine if something will be a distraction or a motivation. so i stayed away completely just so i would never lean either way and make the decision i felt was right
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    • MoneySportsGuy
      SBR MVP
      • 12-09-07
      • 4891

      #3
      what is your nba system mofo? I need a system for ncaa right now its just a mix of gut stats reading up on reports or inside stuff or whatever. we need to work as a team yeesh
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      • LT Profits
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-27-06
        • 90963

        #4
        Yes, I factor in stuff such as letdown spots, look-aheads and rivalry games where the dogs could play over their heads.
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        • hhsilver
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 06-07-07
          • 7375

          #5
          my problem is dealing with MY psych factors - I try not to let them effect my bets , but they do
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          • Dark Horse
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 12-14-05
            • 13764

            #6
            NBA regular season is all about motivation. Three layers:

            1) the motivational stages of the regular season as a whole. I use five stages, plus the playoffs, each with their own character. Right now, until the ASB, we're in stage 3; the long midseason stretch, to which teams respond differently.

            2) the motivational long term perspective of an individual team. Important to understand where a team sees itself and where it wants to go (over the whole season).

            Example: Dallas. Lost unnecessarily to Miami in NBA finals, next season plays with a vengeance, and accumulates best regular season record, only to be eliminated in the first round of the playoffs by GS. This season? They basically took the first couple of months of. It's all related. If you understand the connections you have the key to the team.

            Is PHX playing with the same focus during the regular season as in past years? No. Why not? They have nothing to prove (until playoffs). Result: motivational fluctuations. Look for: moment when they're ready to kick it into next gear. Etc.

            3) the motivational short term perspective; the influence from latest game, or last few games, as reflected by comments from coaches and key players. Factor in upcoming game. Fatigue, last game road trip, first game home after road trip, etc. The basic angles. Those have to be part of your thinking, something you can immediately tap into (as opposed to a checklist that is not part of your thinking).

            Weigh 3 against 2, and 2 against 1.
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            • robzilla
              SBR MVP
              • 10-25-07
              • 3556

              #7
              Remember the Broad street bullies Philadelphia Flyers. They didnt have a ton of skill, but they really didnt need to. You know you were going to be banged up after playing them.
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              • Crayzee
                SBR MVP
                • 10-27-06
                • 4945

                #8
                i have recently started to do it more and more and it sbeen the most sure fire winning strategy i have yet to try

                look aheads and coming off tremendous wins /comebacks or down to the wire losses vs a superior team
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                • Diddy
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 01-23-08
                  • 43

                  #9
                  I always try to put a psychological factor into my capping!

                  But sometimes i end up going overboard and start trying to outthink myself!

                  Sometimes, less is more!
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                  • Cee
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-24-07
                    • 1899

                    #10
                    That's one of the most important factors in capping imo. Sometimes I have trouble figuring out if certain teams will be "up" for the game.
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                    • BrentCrude
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-16-05
                      • 4665

                      #11
                      Before I click the mouse to place any bet, I mull all the psychological variables over.I don't keep a list of things to make me feel good or bad about winning a bet on a team but certain things do come up like if a team either is leaving for a long road trip or coming home from a road trip and what goes on at home.I swear when teams come home from a road trip at the beginning of the month, the PMS factor comes into play where the married guys perform like crap because the old lady was ragging on them the night before.Then if they come home in mid cycle,the guys are screwing too much and can't perform worth shit at home for a couple games.


                      Then teams from the north that have been playing a long stretch in the north seem to do well if they hit warm climates the first couple games on a road trip.

                      On SBR the paid adveritising touts always mention if a team has the flu and usually they suck for 10 days but tend to really play well about 2 weeks later.That's how it works with me where I feel like shit that week and 10 days later I feel like a new man.

                      On holidays or all star breaks, the teams finishing up before the break at home seem to always play well while the road team seems to just show up and are waiting to get home.

                      I think it's more a thing of cycles than it is psychology.Even horses hold their form better or worse due to cycles in weather,full moon's,no moon's, and being horny etc.

                      When the Canadian Football League CFL expanded into the USA with a few teams for a couple years they had a team in Vegas.Now there is one situation where if a home team is disciplined and stays away from the bright lights,they might have an advantage in that the other team might be distracted thinking too much what they will do after the game.Either that or the guys had too much fun the night before or even ate too much raunchy buffet food or hit hot weather that made the food upset their tummy.Most people get sick when they take Vegas trips.

                      I think Hawaii football has an advantage in that visiting teams have too many distractions being in paradise for the first time and going gaga over it, as well as jet lag etc.
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                      • Louisvillekid1
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 10-17-07
                        • 52143

                        #12
                        Psych / motivation is a must to be successful. The best capper in the world will be more likely a major in psych.
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                        • THE HITMAN
                          SBR MVP
                          • 06-16-07
                          • 2394

                          #13
                          I do................when one is obvious and I can translate it to a f"avorable". to me. A lot of times, tho, I just "no play" it, as I like constants when I wager and many time the psych things are a variable.
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                          • mofome
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 12-19-07
                            • 13003

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Dark Horse
                            NBA regular season is all about motivation. Three layers:

                            1) the motivational stages of the regular season as a whole. I use five stages, plus the playoffs, each with their own character. Right now, until the ASB, we're in stage 3; the long midseason stretch, to which teams respond differently.

                            2) the motivational long term perspective of an individual team. Important to understand where a team sees itself and where it wants to go (over the whole season).

                            Example: Dallas. Lost unnecessarily to Miami in NBA finals, next season plays with a vengeance, and accumulates best regular season record, only to be eliminated in the first round of the playoffs by GS. This season? They basically took the first couple of months of. It's all related. If you understand the connections you have the key to the team.

                            Is PHX playing with the same focus during the regular season as in past years? No. Why not? They have nothing to prove (until playoffs). Result: motivational fluctuations. Look for: moment when they're ready to kick it into next gear. Etc.

                            3) the motivational short term perspective; the influence from latest game, or last few games, as reflected by comments from coaches and key players. Factor in upcoming game. Fatigue, last game road trip, first game home after road trip, etc. The basic angles. Those have to be part of your thinking, something you can immediately tap into (as opposed to a checklist that is not part of your thinking).

                            Weigh 3 against 2, and 2 against 1.


                            nice stuff DH.
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                            • JimmyG
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 12-31-07
                              • 135

                              #15
                              I use it alot but more as a complement to my numbers..

                              Ill use the numbers I make on the games. I have a scale that I bet a certain amount when MY number is off the posted line.

                              Small
                              Medium
                              Large
                              Xtra Large

                              After that Ill add in the psychological shit which could be anything from death to look-aheads. Whole lotta things. Ill use these and push the plays based on how many are in favor of a certain team.

                              If I have a medium play and can add a few phsycological factors it may become a large or xtra large so i would bet more.

                              Conversely, if there are factors in disagreement with my current play off the numbers I may just stay off the game.
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                              • curious
                                Restricted User
                                • 07-20-07
                                • 9093

                                #16
                                I look at regional rivalries. Some teams play their regional rivals very very tough and could give a shit about anyone else. Cincinnati is this way.
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                                • ritehook
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-12-06
                                  • 2244

                                  #17
                                  More in college than the pros.

                                  But in the NCAA Tournament in March, not that much. Because all teams are in it, all with at least a theorectical equal chance, no one is sulking (as sometimes happens in the bowl games, teams mad they didn't get a better one).

                                  Some college roundball coaches won't play that hard in Round One if they're a #1 seed. Coach K is well-known for semi-resting his troops vs a weak opponent if he has a #1 (which he won't this year).
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                                  • mofome
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 12-19-07
                                    • 13003

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by ritehook
                                    More in college than the pros.

                                    But in the NCAA Tournament in March, not that much. Because all teams are in it, all with at least a theorectical equal chance, no one is sulking (as sometimes happens in the bowl games, teams mad they didn't get a better one).

                                    Some college roundball coaches won't play that hard in Round One if they're a #1 seed. Coach K is well-known for semi-resting his troops vs a weak opponent if he has a #1 (which he won't this year).
                                    yeah im sure duke will come out looking to punish someone in round one this season.

                                    the point about bowl games is a good one, i think motivation in those plays as large a factor as you'll find motivation play in any series of games.
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                                    • mofome
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 12-19-07
                                      • 13003

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by curious
                                      I look at regional rivalries. Some teams play their regional rivals very very tough and could give a shit about anyone else. Cincinnati is this way.

                                      cinci and xavier is always an insane environment to watch a game. cinci has surprised me a lot this year.
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                                      • mofome
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 12-19-07
                                        • 13003

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by JimmyG
                                        I use it alot but more as a complement to my numbers..

                                        Ill use the numbers I make on the games. I have a scale that I bet a certain amount when MY number is off the posted line.

                                        Small
                                        Medium
                                        Large
                                        Xtra Large

                                        After that Ill add in the psychological shit which could be anything from death to look-aheads. Whole lotta things. Ill use these and push the plays based on how many are in favor of a certain team.

                                        If I have a medium play and can add a few phsycological factors it may become a large or xtra large so i would bet more.

                                        Conversely, if there are factors in disagreement with my current play off the numbers I may just stay off the game.

                                        do your factors like death, look aheads or whatever it may be, correlate to an exact number of points in your capping?
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