Obama -140 to win the Demo nominee?? WTF?? Got to be a way to cash this.

[remmy358]

Stay right where you are,we don't need your kind here!!,Canada is NOT this all white racist society that what you think it is,we are a pluralistic,multi-cultural & MULTI-RACIAL society and proud of it.
You have a problem with obama because you are a racist,don't speak for all americans.
Height years ago and also in 96 polls showed that Collin Powell would have been elected not just by blacks but also by a majority of white males across party lines.However mrs Powell refuse to be part of this because of individuals like yourself whom send to HER racist hate mail,that shook her so much she threaten to divorce her husband if he went through it .
You don't need to leave the United States just search the net you will find plenty of area within your own land where you can find others like yourself and be completely isolated from the rest of humanity.

what is wrong with you? before you call me a racist you should probably know that i have african american in my blood lines.

IMO, i don't think america would vote a woman or black. it's not racist, it's my view of american's.

i never sent hate mail, or thought canada was racist...check yourself.

it's amazing how people draw conclusions when i simply state that i'm republican and that i dont think america would elect a black or woman...wow...grow up.

[Dark Horse]

I doubt that a voting public in any first world country is more clueless than in America.

The road to the throne (America wants nothing less than a king) is open to whoever has the best combination of soundbites and, more importantly, electronic backdoors to voting machines.

The two party system gives Americans the appearance of choice, while allowing the same corporations to call the shots behind the scenes. It has the added benefit of dividing the public. 'Divide and conquer'.

[remmy358]

I doubt that a voting public in any first world country is more clueless than in America.

go ahead and bash Americans..it's the "in" thing to do these days...

[acw]

2008 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION - DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE

15951 HILLARY CLINTON +105 - -

15954 JOHN EDWARDS +1500 - -

That leaves Edwards and Hillary. Not sure how to play this. Think I'll throw $300 on Hillary and $100 on Edwards. Anyone have anything on this?

Yes, I want to be your bookie. I will even give you Hillary at +110 and Edwards at +2000.

[Dark Horse]

I doubt that a voting public in any first world country is more clueless than in America.

go ahead and bash Americans..it's the "in" thing to do these days...

Those who would rather focus on what is popular (as you do here) than ask questions are very easily kept clueless and controlled.

[SPECULATOR 13]

what is wrong with you? before you call me a racist you should probably know that i have african american in my blood lines.

IMO, i don't think america would vote a woman or black. it's not racist, it's my view of american's.

i never sent hate mail, or thought canada was racist...check yourself.

it's amazing how people draw conclusions when i simply state that i'm republican and that i dont think america would elect a black or woman...wow...grow up.

Remmy when you say that you have black american in your blood line,do you mean that you are mix race?

If yes, than old chum you and Barrack have something in common,he is half black/half white,are you?.
You said you will leave the states if him or Hillary would be elected, Why?

I do not know how old you are?however since you are a non-white mix race republican you probably remember that the nation,including THE MAJORITY OF WHITE MALES across party lines would have voted for General Powell in 1996 and 2000 if he had been on ANY TICKET.
I give more credits to americans than you seem too.
IMO the majority of Americans are not the bigots witch they have the reputation of being around the world,your nation is a whole lot more tolerant, inclusive and forward thinking than most think.
The only thing is that when ever a racist manifest it's ugly head,or a racist incident happened than a lot of time is spend on it.
Therefore giving the impression that the nation is still in 1708.

Finally Remmy i didn't say that you specifically send hate mail to mrs Powell BUT RATHER racist like yourself did.(at the time i didn't KNOW that you had black blood in your blood lines...)

[d ray]

At this point I think it will either be Obama or edwards.

[dizzyd]

They just came out with the new poll in New Hampshire and Obama has now went from a dead tie to a double-digit lead. He will most likely be the Democratic nominee with an outside small chance of Hillary coming back just because she has some funds to work with. Obama is the guy to bet on and on my book the lines have already moved to adjust for the new poll.

[The Seer]

I doubt that a voting public in any first world country is more clueless than in America.

The road to the throne (America wants nothing less than a king) is open to whoever has the best combination of soundbites and, more importantly, electronic backdoors to voting machines.

The two party system gives Americans the appearance of choice, while allowing the same corporations to call the shots behind the scenes. It has the added benefit of dividing the public. 'Divide and conquer'.

Excellent post, Dark Horse. True.

[rob]

Democrats will lose again, this time because of a black or female candidate.
But they'll have control of Congress, primarily because of the Busch/Iraq fall-out.
It will be more of the tug-and-pull in the next four years between the White House and Congress and, once again, little will be resolved.

[d ray]

don't count edwards out, he's gaining momentum

[dizzyd]

I'm really suprised so many of you think the Republicans will win. Obama is bringing in independent voters, 1st time voters, and many Republican voters as well. He has a 54% favorable rating among Republican voters. Also, Bloomberg will not run if Obama is on the ticket which is good news for Democrats b/c he would have played a huge spoiler role.

On the other hand most Republicans are extremely disapointed with their choices, and the longer it takes for them to decide who their canidate is the more it appears their party doesn't have a real leader/winner. I really honestly can't see any canidate from the Republican side beating Obama. (I even took the Republicans to win the election at +180 when I thought it might be against Hillary).

[remmy358]

Remmy when you say that you have black american in your blood line,do you mean that you are mix race?

If yes, than old chum you and Barrack have something in common,he is half black/half white,are you?.
You said you will leave the states if him or Hillary would be elected, Why?

I do not know how old you are?however since you are a non-white mix race republican you probably remember that the nation,including THE MAJORITY OF WHITE MALES across party lines would have voted for General Powell in 1996 and 2000 if he had been on ANY TICKET.
I give more credits to americans than you seem too.
IMO the majority of Americans are not the bigots witch they have the reputation of being around the world,your nation is a whole lot more tolerant, inclusive and forward thinking than most think.
The only thing is that when ever a racist manifest it's ugly head,or a racist incident happened than a lot of time is spend on it.
Therefore giving the impression that the nation is still in 1708.

Finally Remmy i didn't say that you specifically send hate mail to mrs Powell BUT RATHER racist like yourself did.(at the time i didn't KNOW that you had black blood in your blood lines...)

problem is that you jumped to conclusions that i was a racist because i said i'm not a fan of obama or clinton (i'm a republican) and you also jumped to conclusions because i said that america will never vote for a black or woman (when i was saying america wouldn't because they aren't ready) which has nothing to do with me or being a raciest.

i have a little african american in me, but it's not noticeable. grandfather was 1/2 african.

regardless...u didn't offend me..just take it easy and don't be so fast to jump to conclusions...i'm anything but racist....

[SPECULATOR 13]

.i'm anything but racist....

[Ball Rash]

dude you said Obama was black/arab

that was all one needed to know to make up their minds about ya

[bigloser]

Stay right where you are,we don't need your kind here!!,Canada is NOT this all white racist society that what you think it is,we are a pluralistic,multi-cultural & MULTI-RACIAL society and proud of it.

Canada IS Racist - especially when it comes to Native American rights.

[SBR_John]

Guys a win in Iowa and New Hampshire while a nice start doesnt mean much in the big picture. Im pretty sure there are a few more states to have primarys.

[isetcap]

Guys a win in Iowa and New Hampshire while a nice start doesnt mean much in the big picture. Im pretty sure there are a few more states to have primarys.

The last time a Democratic candidate who was not an incumbant won the presidency, these were the results in the Iowa Caucus...

Tom Harkin 76%
Undecided 12%
Paul Tsongas 4%
Bill Clinton 3%


New Hampshire...

Paul Tsongas 33%
Bill Clinton 25%

[remmy358]

dude you said Obama was black/arab

that was all one needed to know to make up their minds about ya

lol his father is muslim.

why don't you go wash your balls.

i wasn't looking for your approval...

[The Seer]

The last time a Democratic candidate who was not an emcumbant won the presidency, these were the results in the Iowa Caucus...

Tom Harkin 76%
Undecided 12%
Paul Tsongas 4%
Bill Clinton 3%


New Hampshire...

Paul Tsongas 33%
Bill Clinton 25%

needless to say that it doesn't mean much.

[MonkeyF0cker]

I really would love to see Obama or Huckabee in office. I think they are the only two genuine candidates in the field. All of the others are the typical double-talking greaseballs we've been dealing with for far too many years in this country.

[SPECULATOR 13]

Canada IS Racist - especially when it comes to Native American rights.

big loser what you said here cannot be denied,the REAL CANADIANS AND AMERICANS are lost in the shuffle.What we have done to these people have never been righted.Every body else's rights and well being have and is still going before the ONES of the rightful owners of this continent.I believe in the laws of karma,the native population in both countries are disappearing either through death or old age,if we don't do right by these people we will have hell to pay,i'm sure of it.

[isetcap]

I really would love to see Obama or Huckabee in office. I think they are the only two genuine candidates in the field. All of the others are the typical double-talking greaseballs we've been dealing with for far too many years in this country.

Obama or Huckabee? I guess I can see how they might seem interchangeable to most people. One is the religious right's wet dream and the other is their bloody nightmare.

Lately, Republicans have been better about putting forth a candidate that has a chance to win an election, therefore you can be certain Huckabee will not win the nomination.

[Mason]

I look at the GOP and man is the pack weak...

McCain....Looks dazed and confused most if the time. Just kind of glossy eyed like he's popped a Xanax 30 minutes earlier. Wants to escalate the war, immigration amnesty, etc. He's not the answer.

Romney....If Romney craps the bed again in NH he might just throw in the towel. It's just a matter of time though anyhow before someone starts asking direct questions about the Mormon beliefs that will shock mainstream Christians and then he's done. He's a fader.

Huckabee....Probably the best bet they have even though (Or because?) he rubs shoulders with the Uber religious right. Some of the people he is palling around with sound like the Taliban I shit you not. 'Women should not be allowed to work unless with the consent of their husbands'. etc.

Guiliani....The win Florida, New York, Illinois, Texas & California and screw the rest of the US strategy makes me throw up in my own mouth. An unlikeable, lispy prick from NYC is not going to play well in the Nascar belt, the rust belt or the Midwest. We'll know where he stands when we reach Florida.

Paul.....In my opinion he has the best chance of winning the general election but the battle to get the GOP nomination will be a much tougher fight. I think the GOP would rather lose with Romney/McCain/Huckabee than win with Paul.

On the Dems......I like an Obama/Edwards ticket.

[Ball Rash]

lol his father is muslim.

why don't you go wash your balls.

i wasn't looking for your approval...

so his father is running for the presidency ?

I see

btw that's a cute line about washing my balls

[tblues2005]

I cannot see a Republican winning this time around considering what Bush has one to our country, that wouldn't be too smart I think. The only one that has a good chance that looks honest and would turn things around would be Huckabee, that guy is a decent person and I really believe he would be a good President.

[dizzyd]

Guys a win in Iowa and New Hampshire while a nice start doesnt mean much in the big picture. Im pretty sure there are a few more states to have primarys.

I think you can lose both and survive (if you get two seperate winners), but if the same canidate wins both they usually win. Clinton came-back in '92 after losing both, but 2 different people won Iowa and New Hampshire so there wasn't as much momentum to break. I believe only once in the current system did somebody win both Iowa and NH and not win and that was over 30 years ago.
So it really does go a long way IF Obama wins both.

[BigBollocks]

The best way to make money with this new price on Obama is to bet it. It's going to be all downhill from here. I'm not sold that he's going to win the general election in a cakewalk, however. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be surprised if we see McCain-Obama in the general election with McCain prevailing.

[DrunkenLullaby]

I love all the people saying that the Dems "won't win". Are you guys too noble to take "easy money"? If not, why does the Repubs+170 price never seem to drop at Olympic? Perhaps Spiro is feeling charitable....or perhaps you guys don't have a clue what you're talking about when you say "won't win".

[pico]

2008 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION -
I'd throw out Obama, Gore, Richardson and The Field.

That leaves Edwards and Hillary. Not sure how to play this. Think I'll throw $300 on Hillary and $100 on Edwards. Anyone have anything on this?

why don't you just mail me a check for $400.

[Bill Dozer]

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That -140 is looking good watching Clinton crying on the campaign trail.

ok... starting to cry(?) at about 1:15 mark

[MonkeyF0cker]

Obama or Huckabee? I guess I can see how they might seem interchangeable to most people. One is the religious right's wet dream and the other is their bloody nightmare.

Lately, Republicans have been better about putting forth a candidate that has a chance to win an election, therefore you can be certain Huckabee will not win the nomination.

I'm not suggesting that they are interchangable candidates. I'm just an independent that won't be completely satisfied with the policies of anyone who enters office but these two seem genuine to me. If there's anything that is more troubling to me about the current administration, its their propensity to blatantly lie to us on a constant basis. I don't think you would see this nearly as much with either Obama or Huckabee. All the other candidates seem just as shady as Bush and his henchmen.

[treece]

if obama or clinton wins, i am moving to either canada or europe.

i'm with you buddy. then i'll be able to use pinny again.

[pavyracer]

Obama is the new president of the US after tomorrow. The way the economy is going and the war in Iraq, 8 years of frustation with the Bush adminstration will have the voters venting at the polls to kick the GOP out for good.

[CHALKbreaker]

-140 on Obama is a total gift folks.
I just looked at Rassmussen's poll numbers (which are the truest poll numbers out there), and Obama is DOUBLE digits ahead in BOTH NH, and SC. Clinton's national 20 point lead last week is GONE, and it's a dead heat nationally. This has IMPLOSION written all over it. Obama will have this wrapped up in a couple weeks. The Clintonestas are considering anything less then a double digit loss in NH a success. That won't even happen. Obama wins NH BIG, wins SC BIG, and all the rats will jump the sinking Clinton ship. While when Edwards drops out, all his support will go to Obama.


Trust me folks, I was a poll analysts years back. This thing is so over its ridiculous. The only way Obama possibly looses is that he makes a monumental gaff, which I just don't see happening. He's as sharp and articulate as they come as a speaker.