Points loaning: SBR's policy

[Lo$t]

$tinky is a $tinking lyer.

[Trojan]

It's easy to sum it up if you're just talking about POINTS.
We're sitting here, and we're talking about POINTS.
I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about POINTS, not MONEY, not MONEY, not MONEY, but we're talking about POINTS.
Not MONEY that I go out there and die for but we're talking about POINTS man.
How silly is that?

Signed,
Iverson

[acarmelo1]

Also please banish all point beggars like bateman to the point subforum

[JerseyShop101]

the fucks who stiff should be banned or atleast disable their points so they can't amass anymore.....what tool steals points.......total SOB's, then they come back with different accounts and keep playing people......BAN WTT0315

I think it would be great if we could get the more serious scammers, who have borrowed/scammed hundreds of points from multiple posters, with no intent at all to pay them back- not even 1 point a day, to come into this thread and give their opinion of the new policy.

[stealthyburrito]

i've dabbled in loaning out points and recieving loans, never had a problem thus far.

but i wish we could bring back the credit report, that was a very useful spreadsheet.

[Robber]

Ok no loaning points

[MexicanStallion]

i've dabbled in loaning out points and recieving loans, never had a problem thus far.

but i wish we could bring back the credit report, that was a very useful spreadsheet.

I run the Credit Report. It is listed in the Points section.

[stealthyburrito]

I run the Credit Report. It is listed in the Points section.

really? awesome mex, i'll check it out.

[Grandmaster B]

no that will make people leave the site if they get garnished

[big joe 1212]

why not just ban it?

SBR bans selling them! what is the difference?

it would clear a lot of shit up!

[pico]

as long as i don't visit the pts section, i can take pts from people. nice

[neila]

What is the value of a point? Isn't it about 10 cents?

[Grandmaster B]

What is the value of a point? Isn't it about 10 cents?

like 5 cents I think

[ericthegangster]

that stiff sbr_john owes me points!

[chachi]

Make a loan, "register it" when it is issued, and the recipient is banned from the casino, sportsbook, racebook, and store 24 hrs after receiving the loan, and remains banned until said time that the loan is paid off.

That would solve the problem ... but it won't happen.

[CarolinaDaze]

I would never loan points, but if its gonna be allowed, then the rate of interest should be significant to off set dead beat stiffs.

[DeluxeLiner]

I wish I could police the little sub-forum of points section. I could shape it up.

I endorse this...MexiStallion is a quality poster and leads the effort to police already

[TudoRotaru]

Hmm let's try this ...

[LUCKYCHUCK]

That is some good advice. Thank you

[geebert74]

Thanks for the clairification on this!

[saintjames]

kinda like loaning real money so trust who u give them

[TheLock]

I can understand trolling in threads but why ban a sig that states a fact?

If "PosterA" is a chronic points stiff what's the harm in warning others?

[SBR_John]

I can understand trolling in threads but why ban a sig that states a fact?

If "PosterA" is a chronic points stiff what's the harm in warning others?

I know your point but still, post it in the Points Forum. That's where guys go to loan and get loaned. We don't know for a fact if the sigs are true or there is a legit dispute or a guy is just e-mad and calls someone a stiff. We don't want that as part of the main forum.

[MadCapper]

SBR-JOHN,

I am not sure why I cant see the members list or edit any post I make (even a second after submitting it). I also cant use PM's. Not sure if anyone can, so not gonna ask about it. Plus have no use for it.

Can you check these things out for me?

Thanx in advance,

[chachi]

I know your point but still, post it in the Points Forum. That's where guys go to loan and get loaned. We don't know for a fact if the sigs are true or there is a legit dispute or a guy is just e-mad and calls someone a stiff. We don't want that as part of the main forum.

But John - there is the effectively 'official' Stiff Report being maintained lovingly on an ongoing basis.

Surely you won't pretend you are unaware of those who are continuing to accrue points and blowing them in the casino, sportsbook or store and are at the same time 10s or 100s of points in debt?

If you do not want point loaning to be done, just come out and say it, akin to the ban on selling/buying points, don't say loaning is okay but nobody has to ever pay anyone back and not need be concerned about any backlash if they stay out of the points forum, that's ludicrous.

[pavyracer]

But John - there is the effectively 'official' Stiff Report being maintained lovingly on an ongoing basis.

Surely you won't pretend you are unaware of those who are continuing to accrue points and blowing them in the casino, sportsbook or store and are at the same time 10s or 100s of points in debt?

If you do not want point loaning to be done, just come out and say it, akin to the ban on selling/buying points, don't say loaning is okay but nobody has to ever pay anyone back and not need be concerned about any backlash if they stay out of the points forum, that's ludicrous.

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/626781-forum-suggestions-increased-traffic-week-away-p3.html#post6033951

[southie]

SPeaking of the casino, check it out: I've stayed away this week and am closer to my goal for a set of sbr coffee mugs

[PRC]

Good thread gents. This shit was ruining the forum.

[Dirty Sanchez]

But John - there is the effectively 'official' Stiff Report being maintained lovingly on an ongoing basis.

Surely you won't pretend you are unaware of those who are continuing to accrue points and blowing them in the casino, sportsbook or store and are at the same time 10s or 100s of points in debt?

If you do not want point loaning to be done, just come out and say it, akin to the ban on selling/buying points, don't say loaning is okay but nobody has to ever pay anyone back and not need be concerned about any backlash if they stay out of the points forum, that's ludicrous.

BINGO...there should be a way of funneling their daily points to the lenders to pay their debts, as stiffs are just logging in and weaseling their points and trying for the big kill in the casino or sportsbook with no intention of paying. I understand the lender has some responsibility here, but SBR should be helping crackdown on the shady people who are trolling the forum just looking for freebies and handouts. Here's a suggestion...shutdown points lending entirely and scale back the non-pro's to a couple of points a day. Make it even more attractive to go "Pro". You'll hear the screaming, but who cares because you'll start to thin the herd by getting rid of the "Klingons"

[Cookie Monster]

So, it is OK to stalk players for any other things, such as a broken promise, a bad pick, misleading W-L records, money owed, not sending a database, etc. But if the reason for stalking is a few points, it is taboo.

To me, looks like the real problem for SBR is the loan business, not the stalking.

[Dirty Sanchez]

So, it is OK to stalk players for any other things, such as a broken promise, a bad pick, misleading W-L records, money owed, not sending a database, etc. But if the reason for stalking is a few points, it is taboo.

To me, looks like the real problem for SBR is the loan business, not the stalking.

Cookie you hit the nail on the head. There are some legit lenders, and good guys out there. There are also people loaning who barely have 40 posts and have no business getting involved, but are looking for a quick revenue stream. The best thing SBR could do is shut it down, which would solve all of the chasing/stalking for repayment that goes on. It's an easy fix...kind of intesting why they continue to let it run amok.

[pavyracer]

Cookie you hit the nail on the head. There are some legit lenders, and good guys out there. There are also people loaning who barely have 40 posts and have no business getting involved, but are looking for a quick revenue stream. The best thing SBR could do is shut it down, which would solve all of the chasing/stalking for repayment that goes on. It's an easy fix...kind of intesting why they continue to let it run amok.

They keep it running because all the stiffs spend the money in their business. Why would SBR mind the stiffs? They bring the points back to them and take them away from the good gamblers who know how to multiply them.

So John wants this to keep going on and on the same time protect the stiffs from harassing because they are his cash "points" cow. This encourages more stiffing from current stiffs and breeds new stiffs knowing they are protected from the head honchos.

[Brock Landers]

You should create an SBR points loan shop and the repayments come out automatically everyday once the person receives his/her's 6 or 12 points. That will eliminate stiffs and complaining.

[tim0402]

whats the % of people who stiff with points you think how often is it happening?

[JDUB07]

I think all loaning should be ended. Loaning points or loaning money is always a bad idea. Debt makes people miserable. The borrower is slave to the lender!