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  • Scorpion
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-04-05
    • 7797

    #36
    Virtual creased development in 2005
    windows 7 was released in 2009, so...
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    • Justin7
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 07-31-06
      • 8577

      #37
      Originally posted by Scorpion
      Virtual creased development in 2005
      windows 7 was released in 2009, so...
      So why does it work intermittently? If I keep reloading it, it eventually works.
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      • blackbeSSt
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 09-06-08
        • 9398

        #38
        justin did you do any research on widows shimming?
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        • Scorpion
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 09-04-05
          • 7797

          #39
          all the apps i have that work on xp but dont work in windows7 work fine in windows7 XP mode, even 16 bit apps, doesnt hurt to try installing an older version of pascal and see if it works
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          • Maverick22
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 04-10-10
            • 807

            #40
            Good Luck Justin. I've never used Pascal or Windows 7...

            I think for Headaches sake and to continue making progress on whatever you are doing...

            Go the virtual machine route... Microsoft has a free virtualization product called "VirtualPC". And VmWare also has a slew of virtualization products. If you go with VmWare Server its the best bet.Its free allows you create virtual machines (which can be run on any OS, unlike Virtual PC VM's). Unilke Vmware player, which too is free, but does not let you create virtual machines...
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            • Scorpion
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 09-04-05
              • 7797

              #41
              my home network:
              PC on windows7
              laptop on windows xp

              in your situation i would run the app on my laptop from my pc, for me its just like im running it on my pc
              its good to have a home network running on xp and windows7 for cases like this, all i have to do to access the laptop from my pc is to click on the laptop tab in the taskbar

              so if you cant get it to work in windows7 or xp mode this is another solution if you dont want to re-write in another language
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              • Data
                SBR MVP
                • 11-27-07
                • 2236

                #42
                Originally posted by Justin7
                So why does it work intermittently?
                There is a good chance this is due to hardware problem. Run this RAM diagnostics: http://www.memtest86.com/download.html.
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                • sportsfanatic
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-10-07
                  • 3967

                  #43
                  deleted. nevermind.
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                  • Saab
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 03-01-09
                    • 80

                    #44
                    you are really asking for problems with this older compiler... id look to upgrade to turbo or something, but i personally use vmware everyday for multibooting and it would work well for you. You can probably find a torrent for it to download somewhere, pm me for help
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                    • excel
                      Restricted User
                      • 03-25-10
                      • 4270

                      #45
                      Wow, everyone basically said the exact same thing just in different words.
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                      • sportsfanatic
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-10-07
                        • 3967

                        #46
                        Originally posted by byronbb
                        Just run an old xp box and run it off there.
                        probably this. sometimes backwards compatibility can only go so far.
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                        • pats3peat
                          SBR MVP
                          • 10-23-05
                          • 1163

                          #47
                          this is very interesting. hope it gets fixed
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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388208

                            #48
                            Not ever going to work because your programming,language is ancient

                            Justin this is not the fukkin 70's stop acting like fukkin Bobby
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                            • Maverick22
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 04-10-10
                              • 807

                              #49
                              To Which Bobby Are You Referring?
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                              • eidolon
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-02-08
                                • 9547

                                #50
                                Are you running the different O/S on the same computer?

                                If they are different computers. Is the windows 7 the only computer with enhanced cpu 386 chip?
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                                • Justin7
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 07-31-06
                                  • 8577

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by Data
                                  There is a good chance this is due to hardware problem. Run this RAM diagnostics: http://www.memtest86.com/download.html.
                                  Thanks for the link. This diagnostic only works for systems with <4GB RAM.
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                                  • Justin7
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 07-31-06
                                    • 8577

                                    #52
                                    It seems there is no easy fix for this software issue.

                                    What version of Pascal is most likely to
                                    1. Install/run easily, and
                                    2. Have an integrated environment (where you can trace/debug line by line), and
                                    3. Be mostly compatible with VP's code, requiring the least amount of coding change? I have 1000's of lines of code (most models are about 1000 lines), and I hope I don't have to rewrite much.
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                                    • Scorpion
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 09-04-05
                                      • 7797

                                      #53
                                      Im sure you know n windows7 the correct location for your 32 bit app is Program Files (x86) not Program Files
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                                      • Data
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-27-07
                                        • 2236

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by Justin7
                                        This diagnostic only works for systems with <4GB RAM.
                                        By removing memory modules, you can run diagnostics on 4Gb at a time. Seriously, this does look like memory problem.
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                                        • Justin7
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 07-31-06
                                          • 8577

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by Data
                                          By removing memory modules, you can run diagnostics on 4Gb at a time. Seriously, this does look like memory problem.
                                          If I had memory issues, I would expect to have problems with other programs.... which pretty much run fine for days at a time.
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                                          • scarp
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 01-12-10
                                            • 697

                                            #56
                                            If you reinstall it and it still causes problems then it is more of a compatibility issue. If it runs fine on xp but not Win7, then thats why.
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                                            • Data
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 11-27-07
                                              • 2236

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Justin7
                                              I would expect to have problems with other programs....
                                              And you would be wrong. The hardware issues tend to manifest themselves in strangest ways... Ironically, when it comes to dealing with computer hardware problems, the logic frequently does not need to apply. I formed this opinion not from the lack of knowledge in this area but from 20+ years of professional excellence.
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                                              • Brock Landers
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 06-30-08
                                                • 45367

                                                #58
                                                what is this program/software used for justin?
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                                                • chachi
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-16-07
                                                  • 4571

                                                  #59
                                                  Data is right though that a dodgy ram chip can manifest itself in many strange and wonderous ways, but prob a stretch that your attempts to run VP utilises a ram space containing storage issues that otherwise is not. Pretty sure you've tried a reboot and then just running VP and gotten identical results.

                                                  Just download and install VMWare server and be done with it ...
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                                                  • MagicBeerBelly
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 05-09-07
                                                    • 32

                                                    #60
                                                    Were your installations of XP and Vista 32-bit? How about your Windows 7 installation?
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                                                    • MagicBeerBelly
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 05-09-07
                                                      • 32

                                                      #61
                                                      Just to finish my thought before I hit the sack..

                                                      if you originally wrote the code for a 32-bit system, it may need to be recompiled specifically for a 64-bit system if you're running Windows 7 64bit. I've found that VBA code is not happy moving from one to the other.. maybe it's the same for Pascal.

                                                      In the case of VBA, there's a keyword you have to add to all your function declarations, 'ptrsafe'. It changes the way VBA stores memory locations. Good luck, hope you get it working.. I know I get pretty irritated when my applications don't work correctly!
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                                                      • chachi
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-16-07
                                                        • 4571

                                                        #62
                                                        Here's the DL link for VMWare Server, registration is free and will get an email with a serial # for installation.

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                                                        • eidolon
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 01-02-08
                                                          • 9547

                                                          #63
                                                          Justin...were you ever able to fix this?
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                                                          • chachi
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 02-16-07
                                                            • 4571

                                                            #64
                                                            oh yeah forgot, never heard anything back on this ...
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                                                            • chachi
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 02-16-07
                                                              • 4571

                                                              #65
                                                              curious minds want to know ... are you happily running VMWare yet?

                                                              I got ahold of a downloaded copy of TP and it runs happily here in a WinXP VM in my Ubuntu install ...
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                                                              • Data
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 11-27-07
                                                                • 2236

                                                                #66
                                                                There is absolutely no way that the solutions posted here did not resolve Justin7's problem.

                                                                Justin7, I gave you benefit of a doubt but you proved to be a consistent pathetic cheap stiff. Just want to make this very clear before the end of the year!
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                                                                • chachi
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 02-16-07
                                                                  • 4571

                                                                  #67
                                                                  yeah figured I had bagged 600 pts but don't think he followed through on using a VM even though I provided all necessaries
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