So I asked 5Dimes to pay a wager at 8:30pm EST

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  • exstatman
    SBR MVP
    • 11-02-06
    • 1060

    #1
    So I asked 5Dimes to pay a wager at 8:30pm EST
    And here was the SECOND response, after telling me it would be resolved within the hour. Yes I know its long.

    Chat InformationPlease wait for a site operator to respond.
    Chat InformationYou are now chatting with 'Fred'
    Fred: Hello. How may I assist you today?
    XXXX: Any update on my missing wager?
    Fred: let me go ahead and take a look
    Fred: Can you please confirm your account number and password?
    XXXX:XXXXX
    Fred: and what wager are you referring to?
    XXXX: the one that disappeared.
    Fred: I see now sir, I understand,
    Fred: our techs are looking into the issue, and we expect to have further development on this by the morning
    XXXX: i was told within the hour over 2 hours ago.
    Fred: I understand, but due to the nature of the issue it will unfortunately take a little bit longer to resolve than expected
    Fred: and thus will take until the morning for an update
    Fred: Is there anything else I can assist you with?
    XXXX: I am incredibly disappointed to see a wager will take this long to settle. Especially because the wager is not visible as pending right now.
    Fred: I understand, this is a rare situation and we are trying to get it setteled as soon as possible
    Fred: your wager will show up normally in your account as soon as possible
    XXXX: Sorry, this is a disappointment as if there were a wager I wanted to make that involved the full value of my account, I could not make that at this point.
    Fred: your situation is being handled so that your account can be normal again asap
    Fred: plese contact us back again for an update
    XXXX: I was told the same hours ago. It is obvious this will not be resolved before late morning.
    Fred: that is the estimate that we have at this time
    Fred: it may well be solved within this timefram given
    XXXX: ???
    Fred: you need to contact us back in the morning for an update on this
    Fred: we will have further information about this by then
    XXXX: So a winning wager will take more than 12 hours to resolve, and I am supposed to just accept this?
    Fred: no sir, as I explained this is very rare
    Fred: so, that means that this will not normally be the case
    Fred: we are trying to solve this issue asap
    XXXX: Ah, so because you declare it
    XXXX: "very rare"
    Fred: and that's what we are doing right now
    Fred: but for an update, which is what you're looking for, it will take until the morning hours
    XXXX: that means everything is OK on your end?
    Fred: this will unfortunately not speed upt this process sir, I must inform you of that
    XXXX: So I was lied to earlier, correct?
    Fred: no, that was the previous estimate
    Fred: and right now we have more information about our tech department
    XXXX: So, because you declare that an "estimate" that clears you, correct?
    Fred: and it seems that due to the nature of the problem
    Fred: it will have to wait until the morning
    Fred: Is there anything else I can assist you with?
    XXXX: So, just to be clear, because you guys said it would be resolved within an hour, and it wasn't, that becomes my fault?
    Fred: you are not at fault
    Fred: we ar trying to solve the issue
    Fred: and will do so as soon as possible
    Fred: our tech will need until the morning for this one
    Fred: as previously explained
    XXXX: OK, I understand. If I want to risk the balance of my account, you will not allow that because you will not credit me for all successful wagers.
    Fred: they nromally are, all the time
    Fred: this is a rare error
    Fred: and we are trying to solve it
    Fred: asap
    XXXX: Of course, call it a "rare error" and all is forgiven, right?
    Fred: sir, what is your intention with this?
    Fred: you seem to try to imply setaing things that are altogether incorrect
    Fred: we are simply tryin to solve this rare issue
    Fred: certain*
    XXXX: My intention is to have my wagers settled in a reasonable time.
    Fred: and this is not working towards that purpos
    Fred: purpose*
    XXXX: Are you serious?
    Fred: this is not speeding up the process
    Fred: yes, we already explained that you need to contact us back in the morning for an update
    Fred: we are trying to solve this
    Fred: and will do so, as soon as we can
    Fred: Is there anything else I can assist you with?
    XXXX: And I was told the same hours ago, correct?
    Fred: that is correct
    Fred: and at this time we will only havemor information for you by the morning
    Fred: our techs are looking into this and that is how much it will take
    XXXX: So why was I not told this hours ago?
    Fred: if you think this is unfair to you you may contact us once it is settled and request a manager, we will look into your case
    Fred: hours ago we estimated to fix the problem within hours
    Fred: it was however impossible
    Fred: and will take until the morning to settle
    XXXX: Unfair? Are you serious? Really?
    Fred: Is there anything else I can assist you with?
    XXXX: I will post this on forums to show how some books refuse to settle wagers promptly. There is a clear path showing you guys admit to the problem, but hide solving it.
    Fred: that is not the case
    XXX: Yes it is!
    Fred: we have only offered you assistnce
    XXXX: You have not
    Fred: as you wish sir, we are simply tryin to do our job
    XXXX: You admit taking the wager, but not paying it.
    Fred: there was a glitch, it takes a little bit of time to solve, you do not seem to understand that
    Fred: we have no problem paying wining wagers, we do so every day
    XXXX: What is "a little bit of time"?
    Fred: and if thre's an issue, we solve it
    Fred: and this is what we are trying to do despite you not being able to see it
    Fred: we are simply trying to fix this, as soon as possible
    XXXX: Please explain how this wager is not shown as pending in my account then?
    Fred: the information our techs gave me is that it will take until the morning
    Fred: a glicthc
    Fred: a glitch
    Fred: that we are trying to solve
    Fred: thta simple
    Fred: so, pleas bear with us and you will see that we are simply trying to help you
    Fred: we are not interested in not paying wagers
    Fred: this is a casino and that's what we do
    Fred: please check back in the morning for an update, our techs are looking into it
    XXXX: Normally when I hear the word "help" the result is the opposite.
    Fred: our techs will look into it in the monring
    Fred: please contact us back by then
    XXXX: The techs were looking into this hours ago, and I was told to check in an hour. So that was less than the truth? Please check the prior chat history before you answer.
    Fred: I know that was the case, we now have new information now and now we know it will take longer than initially expected
    XXXX: So you're saying I was lied to?
    Fred: no sir
    Fred: you were given an estimate
    Fred: and once we had more info
    Fred: and knew it would take longer...
    Fred: we onformed you of that
    Fred: and such is the case
    Fred: you need to contact us back in the morning for an update on this
    Chat InformationPlease wait while I transfer the chat to 'Johnny'.
    Chat InformationYou are now chatting with 'Johnny'
    XXXX: Never mind, I'll copy the chat and post it on sports betting forums.
    Johnny: Our Technical Dept is already looking into that, you are welcome to check back in the morning and follow up on this.
    XXXX: Just to be clear, if I wanted to wager the full value of my account, I would not be able, correct?
    XXXX: And that would be because 5DImes refuses to settle a properly placed wager in a reasonable timeframe, correct?
    Johnny: Your account is currently under review by our Technical Dept sir, you've been informed of that many times in this chat already, and we need you to allow time for that.
    Johnny: If you wish to further discuss this you will have to contact us back after 9 am ET when Management and our Tech Dept are available.
    Johnny: There are no other details I can provide you with at this time.
    XXXX: Please allow more time and check back after 9 am ET.
    XXXX: So you're saying the prior chat that said this would be resolved in the next hour was less than the truth?
    Johnny: Our Technical Dept has already been informed of this sir, you need to allow time while they review it, this is out of my hands right now.
    XXXX: or are you hiding behind the "new information" crap?
    Johnny: This seems to be going in circles, you have been asked many times to please check back after 9 am ET, there will be no other answer I will provide you with.
    Johnny: Please understand that, since the Tech Dept is already looking into that you have to allow time.
    Johnny: There is no other option at this time sir.
    Johnny: You may continue with the same questions
    Johnny: and that will not change the fact that you will have to wait until the morning.
    Johnny: There is nothing else I can do myself.
    XXXX: I am just stunned at this.
    XXXX: Just so I am completely clear, because you declare a "problem" it gives you the right to refuse to pay a valid winning wager, correct? What is incorrect about that statement?
    Johnny: No sir, you are just making statements that we have not agreed with
    Johnny: So here it goes once again
    Johnny: Your claim is currently under review
    Johnny: therefore
    Johnny: you need to allow time
    Johnny: so it can reviewed
    Johnny: makes sense
    Johnny: At this time
    Johnny: I am not giving you an outcome
    Johnny: All I am saying is this is under review
    Johnny: So you need to allow time while they look into it
    XXXX: So 11 hours is a reasonable time, correct?
    Johnny: I'm not fully aware of how long this is taking since you reported it, all I can see is being under review, and our Tech Dept is no longer here, so you need to wait until 9 am ET when they arrive.
    XXXX: I have NEVER had a book make a wager disappear, then demand more that 12 hours to resolve it, while saying essentially, "Trust Us!:
    Johnny: You are welcome to contact us back after 9 am ET to further discuss that with Management then.
    Johnny: Any other thing I can do for you this evening?
    XXXX: If I a m misstating, please let me know what is wrong.
    Johnny: You are welcome to contact us back after 9 am ET to further discuss that with Management then.
    Johnny: Any other thing I can do for you this evening?
    XXXX: You have been completely successful at doing absolutely nothing, and I applaud you for that. It is not easy to do absolutely nothing!
    Johnny: You're welcome
    Johnny: Have a great evening!
    XXXX: And to turn it around on me as well!
    XXXX Keep an eye out on the sports forums!!!
    Johnny: I'd suggest you speak with Management in the morning
    Johnny: and let them know that as well.
    Johnny: They will further assist you.
    XXXX: There is a record, it would appear there is no need to tell them separately.
    Johnny: Great
    Johnny: Have a great evening!
    XXXX I would wish you the same, but I wouldn't mean it.
    Johnny: And that's fine, I do wish you have a nice evening, and I say so not expecting anything in return.
    Johnny: I will let you go now
    Johnny: Good Bye
  • tltaylor89
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 06-19-09
    • 19610

    #2
    Only time I have trouble getting wagers graded their is if a championship game is going or they have alot of props to grade.Call in the morning and ask for Tony or Phil
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    • ToNyyy
      SBR MVP
      • 07-21-10
      • 1009

      #3
      Give them time to resolve it. Why are you being an ass about it unless it's your entire bankroll on the wager (which it should never be). 5Dimes is very honest and trustful from my experience.
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      • exstatman
        SBR MVP
        • 11-02-06
        • 1060

        #4
        Problem is they graded many wagers made after this. Plus, the wager is still not shown as pending, even now.
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        • ProfaneReality
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 04-14-09
          • 7607

          #5
          what type of wager is this?

          and you come off looking like a whiney douche. shit happens.. you cant expect much to be resolved late at night
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          • Gio21
            SBR MVP
            • 11-13-09
            • 1594

            #6
            What part wasnt clear that they couldn't help you any further seeing that their tech department wasnt there. You just came off as a prick and a jackass
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            • Grandmaster B
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 09-05-09
              • 6035

              #7
              sooo...the OP has a wager disappear and he is slammed by dunce aka deuce along with other rookie posters that have no clue

              there is no excuse for having a wager just vanish out of thin air

              now if it comes out the OP hacked 5dimes ill eat my words

              this is why I only play at bookmaker...always have always will

              they just recently paid out 15 dimes like water after a player hit big on a pick 4

              people listen to losers like dunce and watch their money vanish

              undercover shills?
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              • eidolon
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-02-08
                • 9531

                #8
                so you are revealing to us that you are a total azzhole?

                If you electricity goes out, and the original estimation is 1 hour but it takes 8 hours, do you call and act like a little bitch?
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                • MendozaLine
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-11-10
                  • 4088

                  #9
                  How can you have experience with 5dimes when you just turned 18 yesterday?
                  Originally posted by ToNyyy
                  Give them time to resolve it. Why are you being an ass about it unless it's your entire bankroll on the wager (which it should never be). 5Dimes is very honest and trustful from my experience.
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                  • Cuse0323
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 12-09-09
                    • 30169

                    #10
                    Why did I read all of that.
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                    • Grandmaster B
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 09-05-09
                      • 6035

                      #11
                      Originally posted by eidolon
                      so you are revealing to us that you are a total azzhole?

                      If you electricity goes out, and the original estimation is 1 hour but it takes 8 hours, do you call and act like a little bitch?
                      so thats what happen...the electricity went out?

                      good thing a poster on SBR with the handle eidolon is privy to this type of info...this should calm anyones fears

                      so you and Tony hittin the slopes this winter in aspen again?
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                      • Grandmaster B
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-05-09
                        • 6035

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MendozaLine
                        How can you have experience with 5dimes when you just turned 18 yesterday?
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                        • ProfaneReality
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 04-14-09
                          • 7607

                          #13
                          Originally posted by MendozaLine
                          How can you have experience with 5dimes when you just turned 18 yesterday?
                          cuz he is someones ghost
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                          • LT Profits
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 10-27-06
                            • 90963

                            #14
                            It is understandable that this should take a while because this is a case of a wager disappearing, which is not nearly the same this as a pending play not being graded for 24 hours or whatever. No need to jump on 5 Dimes throat here, especially if they ultimately settle in your favor.
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                            • mtneer1212
                              SBR MVP
                              • 06-22-08
                              • 4993

                              #15
                              You are being an ass here..... 5dimes not only needs to invesigate why your wager disappeared, but also find out if other wagers were affected as well. This IT stuff is not easy, and a databases get corrupted easily. They probably had to go back a few hours, check the database then, and do a comparison line by line to see what was affected. This can't be done in minutes, it takes a little time. Relax, I understand your frustration, but it will get resolved in your favor.
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                              • mtneer1212
                                SBR MVP
                                • 06-22-08
                                • 4993

                                #16
                                However, I do agree with your avatar.
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                                • Dirty Sanchez
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 03-01-10
                                  • 16031

                                  #17
                                  5 Dimes is solid...and I've never had a problem with them at all...just seems like a little patience on your part versus looking for an issue when there isn't one.
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                                  • excel
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 03-25-10
                                    • 4270

                                    #18
                                    I have to agree with the poster here, they said a hour then changed it to 12 hours. Not this guys fault wagers are disappearing or whatever the case. If you win and want to bet those winnings instantly you should be able to. Shouldn't have to worry about waiting 12 hours for a grade and wagers "disappearing" at a top sports book. I would have to say a freeplay is in order here.
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                                    • LT Profits
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-27-06
                                      • 90963

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by excel
                                      I have to agree with the poster here, they said a hour then changed it to 12 hours. Not this guys fault wagers are disappearing or whatever the case. If you win and want to bet those winnings instantly you should be able to. Shouldn't have to worry about waiting 12 hours for a grade and wagers "disappearing" at a top sports book. I would have to say a freeplay is in order here.
                                      No, they can't just pay him instantly because suppose they later discover he was full of shit in the first place after the investigation. If he is telling the truth, he will get his credit when it is resolved and he has nothing to worry about. But to expect to be paid before research of a disappearing wager is complete is simply unrealistic.
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                                      • excel
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 03-25-10
                                        • 4270

                                        #20
                                        I think if you run a top book you should have someone on staff 24/7 that can handle problems like this. The first guy he talked with could barely put together words coherently.
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                                        • LT Profits
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-27-06
                                          • 90963

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by excel
                                          I think if you run a top book you should have someone on staff 24/7 that can handle problems like this. The first guy he talked with could barely put together words coherently.
                                          But this is an unusual case, in all my years at 5 Dimes, I don't think I have ever had a wager disappear. I am sure they do have 24/7 tech support, this is just a case that cannot be settled quickly as it seems there is a lot of work to be done on 5 Dimes' end.
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                                          • Grandmaster B
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 09-05-09
                                            • 6035

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by excel
                                            I think if you run a top book you should have someone on staff 24/7 that can handle problems like this. The first guy he talked with could barely put together words coherently.
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                                            • poker_dummy101
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 11-03-08
                                              • 6395

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by MendozaLine
                                              How can you have experience with 5dimes when you just turned 18 yesterday?

                                              he said in another thread he has yet to deposit there
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                                              • whatsgood5
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 10-13-09
                                                • 15359

                                                #24
                                                As others have more or less said, this makes you look bad. Quit your fukking whining and wait until the morning and contact them.
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                                                • acarmelo1
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 09-29-09
                                                  • 6321

                                                  #25
                                                  You are just a jerk, give them time and stop whinning.
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