RICO act lawsuit to be filed against Bet Royal and SBG Global

[curious]

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[DrunkenLullaby]

Best of luck to you.

As far as I know, the US Gov't only squeezes people to pad their own coffers, but that doesn't mean I don't hope you get something out of it.

[curious]

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[DrunkenLullaby]

The us gov't is not involved in this proceeding.

So you're filing a suit based on RICO, but not within the American court system?

Wait a minute, you said you were filing it in US Federal Court. So you are relying on the Feds to give a crap about your plight, right?

[curious]

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[DrunkenLullaby]

Right, got that. But my original post is then valid. You're gonna need the Federal Court to side with you when they don't have a vested interest of their own. Good luck with that.

[cloudagh]

Could this be used with Cascade?

[bigboydan]

Not exactly sure how this would work, but say you do get a judgment. How will you collect it?

[Mason]

"We will file garnishments with all of their payment processors based in the US. Anytime they try to move money..."

I doubt their processors are in the United States. If they are though, they won't be in business long enough to garnish squat once they're identified.

Not trying to rain on your parade as this is very interesting stuff Curious and I'm interested to see the updates.

[Justin7]

I'd love to see how you force them to attend depositions. How will the courts enforce contempt when no one shows up, and they keep no assets in the US?

[bigloser]

I doubt their processors are in the United States. If they are though, they won't be in business long enough to garnish squat once they're identified.

Surprisingly most offshore books still use US processors. Dont know how they manage it but it is a fact.

[bigloser]

[sigh] We will force their AGENTS in the US to attend depositions. Their payment processors, I have their names, addresses and phone numbers. Anyone who handles money on their behalf is their AGENT and a co-conspirator, and this includes Western Union and money gram.

This may help you but if you achieve this it will harm everyone else who posts on this board.

[bigloser]

This may help you but if you achieve this it will harm everyone else who posts on this board.

But I doubt it will help you

[durito]

So you are going after Western Union and Money Gram?

As a gambler are you not worried about thus shutting down one of the few remaining transfer methods for US based players?

[bigloser]

Well, first you don't understand what I am trying to achieve. By threatening SBG with exposure of their money transfer processes I give them a huge incentive to pay up. There is no way they will let this go to court. Think about it.

So you are bluffing.

And whats more you have stated you are on a public forum.

SBG will let this go to court - if they have to

[seymour]

You'll probably get a default judgment - I can't see these book showing up in a US court to defend the suit - collection seems to be your biggest obtacle.

[tblues2005]

I wish you lots of luck there curious on this but what if they just folded up and did no more business inside the United States then it would be a big problem wouldn't it be? I think winning the judgment here will not be a problem but collecting it is a different story. I see your point but have you hired an attorney to help your case in this matter and see you can collect anything? You have a good point on this but the problem is that it will be hard to collect on this I think.

[Dark Horse]

No, I am not bluffing. I am going to put these mother ****ers through a ****ing meat grinder. But, they will settle long before that.

And I am posting this in a public forum because I want that punk ass piece of shit Eduardo Agami to read it for himself.

I also want this to get lots of attention on the internet.

And I really don't give a flying **** if anyone does or does not like what I intend to do.

'Electronic warfare'?

[seymour]

I'd see what happened in the suit - maybe have file an answer and try to get the case tossed over some bullshit - who knows - I could always pay up after you get the judgement - I'm not sure what depos you can take in order to collect the judgment - but you won't be doing any discovery if they the don't file an answer - I just don't know what you can do in terms of exposing them after via discovery routs in order to enforce a judgment - typically, you get a writ of execution - take it to the sheriff - in this case the US Marshalls office - say the debtor owns this - levy on it - it's worth a try - there is no way these books are going to let you start taking depos - the deponents would go ballistic because they would be admiting illegal acts in their depos - and they would have to show eventually or face contempt - who knows - I know nothing of the actual suit - civil rico suit you are refering to and if it could be used.

[paul Mordeeb]

Can't you go after their .com name if you get a judgement for any amount of money???? Like what happened to bodog?

[bigloser]

And I really don't give a flying **** if anyone does or does not like what I intend to do.

So you dont give a shit about all the guys who have offered you support on this board.

At the moment you are coming across as bad as SBG

[DrunkenLullaby]

Please put the crack pipe down for a moment. Federal courts don't choose sides. Juries decide cases in federal court.

...and who exactly decides which cases go to trial and see a jury?

For instance, I think there's a guy in jail somewhere that is/was suing Tiger Woods (or another celeb of similar stature) for something like $5 billion. Don't we elect judges that decide that a jury's time is not wasted on cases like that? If so, what's to stop them from doing the same thing to your case?

[SBR Lou]

No offense, this sounds like no more than a daydream. A person who was serious would not expose their entire legal strategy on a public forum. They also would not include threats of electronic warfare.

[paul Mordeeb]

Hey, let him work off the steam. Go get them Curious!!! Good luck!

[donjuan]

Curious is pissed off because he is probably starting to realize that he's a donk who ran hot on a tout's picks for awhile. He'll never see the money from BJO because there won't be anything left by the time he finishes the rollover.

[Scorpion]

What is the punishment for RICO in the federal courts?

Do the fderal courts still follow the federal sentencing guidelines?

[tacomax]

No offense, this sounds like no more than a daydream. A person who was serious would not expose their entire legal strategy on a public forum. They also would not include threats of electronic warfare.

crazyl makes probably the best point on the thread so far.

[atakdog]

Please put the crack pipe down for a moment. Federal courts don't choose sides. Juries decide cases in federal court.

Actually, you might be better off with a bench trial (i.e., one in which the judge, not a jury, is the finder of fact). Presumably the defendants will not show, so you'll just be presenting unopposed evidence; you won't need a sympathy vote, and with a bench trial you can't get fvcked by that lone juror who thinks gambling is evil.

Go get 'em.

[JC]

Please put the crack pipe down for a moment. Federal courts don't choose sides. Juries decide cases in federal court.

Spoken like someone who has never had a matter in Federal Court. The judges in Federal Court run the show and can seriously impact on the outcome.

That said, I think you may be on to something here.

If you do this right, you could collect from ** and others with assets in the US.

[Santo]

If you were SBG Euro, Ltd and your headquarters were in a place with extradition treaties with the United Sates, would you want your illegal bookmaking operation laid bare in US federal court by your payment processors who were being forced to testify?

Or, would you rather pay the $200,000 you owe and make this nightmare go away?

Official headquarters and where the people actually are will likely be two different things.

And if they were in a country with extradition, posting this just gave them an x month heads up to move

[DrunkenLullaby]

Spoken like someone who has never had a matter in Federal Court. The judges in Federal Court run the show and can seriously impact on the outcome.

Thanks JC. Guess I can safely re-light my pipe now!

[Lunds15]

Bet Royal

hey guys, I'm new on this site. I was one of the customers at Bet Royal who got screwed over. I would love to participate in an attempt to take them down, and ofcourse get my money from them. Please let me know what the first steps in doing this are....thanks, Eric.

[bigboydan]

Welcome to the SBR forum Lunds15

Sorry to hear about you being one of their victims.

[increasedodds]

Curious, I wish you well and hope you win.

I'd also watch your back. These are probably not people you want to run into in person...

[jolub]

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