Is Diego Maradonna a good coach?

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  • Chi_archie
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    • 07-22-08
    • 63172

    #1
    Is Diego Maradonna a good coach?
    heard some speculation on the radio yesterday that some feel he might try to sabotage his team's chances to preserve his legacy...


    is this guy off drugs? is he all there mentally?

    thanks
  • Ace_of_Spades
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    • 10-14-09
    • 13518

    #2
    What, why would he do that? He has good players, he should do well.
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    • Arsenal
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      • 01-30-09
      • 1349

      #3
      He left some big names off the team. The jury is still out on his coaching abilities. We will find out in a couple of weeks.
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      • Chi_archie
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        • 07-22-08
        • 63172

        #4
        they said, he is jealous of messi and doesn't want to see him surpass his legendary status in the country
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        • Chi_archie
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          • 07-22-08
          • 63172

          #5
          Originally posted by Arsenal
          He left some big names off the team. The jury is still out on his coaching abilities. We will find out in a couple of weeks.

          yeah that was mentioned as well, left a lot of good defensive players off the squad or somthing....
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          • yisman
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            • 09-01-08
            • 75682

            #6
            he's awful.

            If they had a competent coach they'd have a chance.

            this is what I said recently:

            Argentina is definitely one of the most talented teams but I have to say, I can't see them winning. Maradona is a friggin' horrible coach. Yeah, he's a national hero and was a great player. Terrific. He's killing the team. Unless he somehow transforms into competent or lets someone else make tactical decisions, I can't see how they go all the way.
            [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
            [/quote]

            [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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            • Chi_archie
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              • 07-22-08
              • 63172

              #7
              thanks Yisser
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              • lakerboy
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                • 04-02-09
                • 94379

                #8
                Originally posted by Chi_archie
                yeah that was mentioned as well, left a lot of good defensive players off the squad or somthing....

                argentina hardly has any good defensive players to begin with. there success will be thru the front line.

                Originally posted by yisman
                he's awful.

                If they had a competent coach they'd have a chance.

                this is what I said recently:


                Carlos Bilardo is coaching the team and Maradona is just a figurehead. I thought you knew that.
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                • Ace_of_Spades
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                  • 10-14-09
                  • 13518

                  #9
                  Originally posted by yisman
                  he's awful.

                  If they had a competent coach they'd have a chance.

                  this is what I said recently:
                  France are pretty much a carbon copy and they made the 06 Final.
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                  • Ace_of_Spades
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                    • 10-14-09
                    • 13518

                    #10
                    Originally posted by lakerboy

                    argentina hardly has any good defensive players to begin with. there success will be thru the front line.
                    Yep, defense is not looking good. Hienze is a shocker.
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                    • pat venditto
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                      • 05-07-07
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                      #11
                      Guy is a nut.
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                      • yisman
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                        • 09-01-08
                        • 75682

                        #12
                        Originally posted by lakerboy





                        Carlos Bilardo is coaching the team and Maradona is just a figurehead. I thought you knew that.
                        That would make more sense, but I can't believe Bilardo would make some of these moves.

                        It really would explain the hiring and the retention, though.
                        [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                        [/quote]

                        [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                        • JOHON8
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                          • 01-28-10
                          • 7712

                          #13
                          Originally posted by lakerboy
                          argentina hardly has any good defensive players to begin with. there success will be thru the front line.
                          Macherano probably the best defensive midfielder in the WC, Samuel and Demichelis part of the 2 teams who got to the CL final with the best defenses.

                          You're right they depend much more on their offensive line up but they have some of the best defensive players in the world, maybe not historically, but in this WC they do.
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                          • aceking
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                            • 09-07-05
                            • 4782

                            #14
                            good player doesn't mean good coach
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                            • BetfairUser
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                              • 03-27-10
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                              #15
                              Johon's right, their defence is extremely important in their current system and they are all good defenders, + the legend that is Masch
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                              • tailmypicks
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                                • 11-09-09
                                • 1005

                                #16
                                argentina will play the final atleast
                                they have the best player
                                legendary but crazy head coach
                                decent supporting cast
                                underdogs tag
                                Baba-e-qaum ne farmaya, too chal me aya
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                                • suckerforparlays
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                                  • 02-15-10
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                                  #17
                                  I hope ARGENTINA implodes and gets it handed to them lol
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                                  • jagaf22
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                                    • 01-22-08
                                    • 2932

                                    #18
                                    Entertaining absolutely! The jury is still out on his coaching abilities.
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                                    • jjgold
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                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388179

                                      #19
                                      I would not trust that foreign trash if you paid me

                                      Lousy coach and a just a junkie
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                                      • Chi_archie
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                                        • 07-22-08
                                        • 63172

                                        #20
                                        how fat did the guy gut before getting his stomach stapled?
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                                        • Slainte
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                                          • 12-13-09
                                          • 2442

                                          #21
                                          He said that if Argentina wins, will run naked downtown Buenos Aires.
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                                          • Dark Horse
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                                            • 12-14-05
                                            • 13764

                                            #22
                                            He wasn't good during qualifying, but that could be a good thing. Many teams that qualify with ease are terrible during the World Cup, and vice versa. That is because qualifying is a different ball game than playing in a month long tournament.

                                            For a qualification game the team is together for just a few days and needs to 'stand' quickly, based on a clear game plan. Some coaches are good at that. Maradona isn't one of them. During the WC, however, a team needs to grow. This requires a very different set of skills from a coach.

                                            That said, Maradona doesn't seem to be the right person for the job, because he's a big name only. He's never won anything as a coach, so he's not bringing superior coaching experience to the table and is learning on the job. Comparable to Van Basten during the last European championship. Holland blasted out of the gate, by defeating WC finalists France and Italy with ease, but when they came across Russia, coached by the much more experienced Hiddink, their tournament was over. Hiddink's strategy involved neutralizing the opponent's strong points, and exposing their weakness. It sounds simple, but, as I said, the two WC finalists had not been able to do so. It's a special type of skill.

                                            And there's another key element to coaching that I'm pretty certain Maradona doesn't possess. Many coaches aren't able to make adjustments on the fly, and have to study game tape before identifying the problems and opportunities. The best coaches can do so right away, from the sideline.

                                            Often, the best coaches are those who were playmakers (like point guards in the NBA) in their playing days. Maradona was not. He was more of a self-centered player, who lifted the team because of incredible individual skills (like Michael Jordan). He was never the 'coaching' type of player who understood the role of each player on the pitch.
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                                            • michalis
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                                              • 01-02-10
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                                              #23
                                              he's sniffed so much cocaine he cant even tell the corner flag from the linesman
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                                              • BatemanPatrickl
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                                                • 06-21-07
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                                                #24
                                                Solid post Michalis. Didn't he say he would run around naked if the team won?
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                                                • xxxvince
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                                                  • 12-17-07
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                                                  #25
                                                  argentina will make it to last 16 and lose, maradona will be blamed for that, at the end i see him coaching in italian serie a or spain league. talks abt maradona gonna sabotage his own team is pretty dumb, surely he wants to win one as a coach too to add his legacy.
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                                                  • Chi_archie
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                                                    • 07-22-08
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                                                    #26
                                                    I think I should have also asked in my original question..... in a soccer game how important is a coach anyways? is there alot of strategy changing DURING a game? halftime? there obviously is not alot of strings to pull until near the end with substitutions ect.
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                                                    • lakerboy
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                                                      • 04-02-09
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                      I think I should have also asked in my original question..... in a soccer game how important is a coach anyways? is there alot of strategy changing DURING a game? halftime? there obviously is not alot of strings to pull until near the end with substitutions ect.

                                                      in soccer the mgr is very important. as they say the second half is the managers half. for sure there is strategy change during the course of a game depending on how certain players are performing in defense etc. so often you will see a side attack down one flank the whole half and then come out in the second half and are unable to do it anymore due to a strategy change. similar to nfl in many ways where the game can be one type of game the first half and change completely the second half.
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                                                      • michalis
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                                                        • 01-02-10
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by BatemanPatrickl
                                                        Solid post Michalis. Didn't he say he would run around naked if the team won?

                                                        he didnt say something like that I think, but it wasnt a smart move, now his players have a very big reason NOT to win it
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                                                        • Slim
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                                                          • 11-13-08
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Slainte
                                                          He said that if Argentina wins, will run naked downtown Buenos Aires.
                                                          Good thing that won't be happening.
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                                                          • Socrates
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                                                            • 02-24-10
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                                                            #30
                                                            no.
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                                                            • Karayilan9
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                                                              • 01-10-09
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                              heard some speculation on the radio yesterday that some feel he might try to sabotage his team's chances to preserve his legacy...


                                                              is this guy off drugs? is he all there mentally?

                                                              thanks
                                                              The conspiracy is a wild one.

                                                              He's off the drugs, mentally was he ever all there

                                                              He took over a failing the team, they were awful when he started and were not going to qualify. Maradonna turned the team round, now they are actually a team, not a bunch of great players lumped together.

                                                              As a manager he is unproven, he has a strong team of coaches working with him anyway and they will be working on tactics. Maradonna is a motivator or men, his status is close to saintly in Argentina and alot of these players see him as a living legend. The players are 100% behind him and he has got the passion and motivation back in the team. When you watch recent games you see them not being selfish, they all work together and all hug the manager after a goal, its great for moral. In cup competitions the motivational side of managing can count more than the tactical side. He also is not scared to make big decisions and is his best in the big games, the guy is a winner and his team will have a winning mentality. Don't write him off.


                                                              Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                              I think I should have also asked in my original question..... in a soccer game how important is a coach anyways? is there alot of strategy changing DURING a game? halftime? there obviously is not alot of strings to pull until near the end with substitutions ect.
                                                              A managers importance is vital, I cannot stress this enough. Sometimes capping managers is more important than looking at the team.
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                                                              • looch10
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                                                                • 05-05-09
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                                                                #32
                                                                Ask yourself this, is he worse than that tool Domenech? If he can make a final, surely anyone can.
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                                                                • looch10
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                                                                  • 05-05-09
                                                                  • 171

                                                                  #33
                                                                  ..and I'm aware that Zidane carried the team through. Can Messi carry his incompetent manager too?
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