Can't they change the play to an error?

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  • Club
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 07-18-09
    • 703

    #1
    Can't they change the play to an error?
    In baseball. don't they sometimes change hits to errors and vice versa after the game when plays are reviewed? If so, can't they give Cabrera an error so at least the guy can get a no-hitter?
  • Herky
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 05-09-10
    • 748

    #2
    what would there be an error for? He made a good throw and the guy caught it.
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    • Club
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 07-18-09
      • 703

      #3
      Obviously it wasn't an error but at least they could officially do something under the rules to partially correct the umpire's ****up and get him in the history books for a no hitter.

      I checked the MLB rules. They can change it to an error within 24 hours. I hope they do it.
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      • tealish
        SBR MVP
        • 02-02-10
        • 3386

        #4
        so what would they list it as? EU?
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        • Masu485
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 08-14-08
          • 7700

          #5
          pfft, no hitters are old news now
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          • TheLock
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 04-06-08
            • 14427

            #6
            I guess they could "make up" this scenario:

            Charge the pitcher with an error and do so because the umpire ruled the runner safe because he did not feel the pitcher had control of the ball.


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            • 2daBank
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 01-26-09
              • 88966

              #7
              so you want Cabrera going down as the goat who blew the perfecto on the last out? that isnt cool and it wasnt a error so why the hell would they do that?
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              • Club
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 07-18-09
                • 703

                #8
                Originally posted by tealish
                so what would they list it as? EU?
                If only they could. Just give it to Cabrera. I'm sure he won't mind. Obviously, it is bending the rules, but something should be done to make that right. I've never seen anything like that.
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                • Masu485
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 08-14-08
                  • 7700

                  #9
                  give the umpire the error
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                  • Club
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 07-18-09
                    • 703

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 2daBank
                    so you want Cabrera going down as the goat who blew the perfecto on the last out? that isnt cool and it wasnt a error so why the hell would they do that?
                    No one would remember it that way. Galarraga goes into the record books with the no hitter and everyone will remember Joyce regardless of what happens.
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                    • noties
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 05-30-10
                      • 457

                      #11
                      which game are you talking about?
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                      • seaborneq
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 09-08-06
                        • 22556

                        #12
                        Just give the guy credit for a perfect game with an asterick and a video of the bad call.
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                        • Carnage
                          SBR Hustler
                          • 05-24-10
                          • 63

                          #13
                          Originally posted by noties
                          which game are you talking about?
                          Wow... that's pretty sad.
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                          • jayroy25
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-18-09
                            • 1578

                            #14
                            Originally posted by club
                            if only they could. Just give it to cabrera. I'm sure he won't mind. Obviously, it is bending the rules, but something should be done to make that right. I've never seen anything like that.
                            u can give cabrera the error but that still ruins the perfect game. Not to mention possible no hitter
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                            • EDDIE MONEY LINE
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 02-24-10
                              • 6298

                              #15
                              dumbest thread ever...it was a bad call, oh well- life goes on

                              galaraga should've just struck him out
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                              • Naz18
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-10-09
                                • 4277

                                #16
                                I hope they make sure this ump never gets to umpire in the playoffs...
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                                • peterw111
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 01-05-10
                                  • 422

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Naz18
                                  I hope they make sure this ump never gets to umpire in the playoffs...

                                  THE PLAYOFFS...... start with ANY MINOR LEAGUE GAMES......................
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                                  • floridagolfer
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-19-08
                                    • 2757

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Herky
                                    what would there be an error for? He made a good throw and the guy caught it.
                                    Bingo. Yes, it's simple. There was no error on the play.
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                                    • jjgold
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388179

                                      #19
                                      Does it really mean anything??

                                      NO!!!!

                                      No one remembers this shit anyway, games was meaningless

                                      I ahve no clue who pitched no hitters other than a few hall of famers
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                                      • Chi_archie
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-22-08
                                        • 63172

                                        #20
                                        yeah they can change the error/hit call, they do it all the time....

                                        you could argue that Galaraga could earn the error for not getting his foot down on the bag in time (even though we know he did).... because that is why Joyce muffed the call. Galaraga let the play be a bit closer than it should have by not having his foot on the bag right away, causing Joyce to hesitate
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                                        • robert_wrath
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 07-16-09
                                          • 2122

                                          #21
                                          I believe the only ruling the umpires are able to overturn are hits toward the Home Run Wall. Only then have there been Instant Replay Analysis thru MLB Officials.
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                                          • Chi_archie
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-22-08
                                            • 63172

                                            #22
                                            Wrath, the official scorers can overturn the h/e call for 24 hrs following the play.... it happens all the time
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                                            • Club
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 07-18-09
                                              • 703

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by floridagolfer
                                              Bingo. Yes, it's simple. There was no error on the play.
                                              Wasn't there? For a person to not be out in that situation, one of three things had to happen: 1) the runner beat the throw, 2) Galarraga didn't get his foot on the bag or 3) Galarraga bobbled the ball.

                                              Because Joyce ****ed up, we know none of those happened but one had to have occurred for the runner to be safe. The official scorer can review hits and errors within 24 hours. If it is reviewed, he has to pick one of these options, although none occurred. If he picks #1, which didn't happen, Galarraga loses his perfect game and no hitter. If he picks #2 or #3, which also didn't happen, Galarraga gets to keep his no hitter. Why not choose #2 or #3?
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                                              • jose21_us
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 05-24-10
                                                • 3844

                                                #24
                                                Bud Selig does shit on the fly, so I can see this one getting turnaround.
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                                                • JUST A MAN
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 04-22-10
                                                  • 276

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Club
                                                  Wasn't there? For a person to not be out in that situation, one of three things had to happen: 1) the runner beat the throw, 2) Galarraga didn't get his foot on the bag or 3) Galarraga bobbled the ball.

                                                  Because Joyce ****ed up, we know none of those happened but one had to have occurred for the runner to be safe. The official scorer can review hits and errors within 24 hours. If it is reviewed, he has to pick one of these options, although none occurred. If he picks #1, which didn't happen, Galarraga loses his perfect game and no hitter. If he picks #2 or #3, which also didn't happen, Galarraga gets to keep his no hitter. Why not choose #2 or #3?
                                                  Great response! This is the answer to this. Charge Galarraga with bobbling the ball. He gets the no hitter.
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                                                  • Club
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 07-18-09
                                                    • 703

                                                    #26
                                                    It really doesn't have to have anything to do with Selig. The official scorer reviews plays all the time. If he reviews it, he has to pick one of the three options in my previous post. Why not pick one that at least saves the no hitter?
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                                                    • Panekkkk
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 03-12-09
                                                      • 2430

                                                      #27
                                                      They can change it to an error but it would still void the perfect game. Instead Galaragga would receive a "no-hitter" ... But that doesn't save the perfect game because the guy that came up after got an official at-bat.
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                                                      • szk1983
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 07-08-06
                                                        • 642

                                                        #28
                                                        They are allowed to review this call after the fact, and change it, which I think they will do.
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                                                        • Bob Loblaw
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-07-10
                                                          • 3508

                                                          #29
                                                          Jon Heyman of SI.com reports that Commissioner Bud Selig will have a statement on Thursday regarding Armando Galarraga's almost perfect game.
                                                          Baseball officials have reportedly convened in order to review Wednesday's blown call by umpire Jim Joyce, which prevented the 21st perfect game in major league history. While Selig has the power to reverse the call, we're not counting on him to do that. At the very least, it should open the door to expanded instant replay so the same mistake isn't made again.
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                                                          • Herky
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 05-09-10
                                                            • 748

                                                            #30
                                                            They talked to the official scorer last night and he indicated he will not change the play. There is nothing to change it to. It was a hit. There are no errors on this play except the umpires error.
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