Why is everyone so hard on bonus hunters on this forum

[sean72]

If a bonus hunter stays within the rules then they havnt done anything wrong in my eyes

[pico]

If a bonus hunter stays within the rules then they havnt done anything wrong in my eyes

because they whine and bitch over 10 dollars....just annoying.

[sean72]

What??? If they have followed all the rules and a book tries and stiff them then they have every right to whine and bitch wheater its 10 dollars or 5k

[pico]

What??? If they have followed all the rules and a book tries and stiff them then they have every right to whine and bitch wheater its 10 dollars or 5k

yeah, but bonus whores don't really contribute to capping. they can only tell you how to whore up on bonuses.

[pico]

it is taking a marriage advise from a hooker. can't take them seriously.

[Zeroed]

yeah, but bonus whores don't really contribute to capping. they can only tell you how to whore up on bonuses.

depends, good bonus whores can have an opinion on games too.
Why not take a bonus at good books to add to the cash.

I don´t like guys that use multiple accounts etc, that hurts the industry, but if someone is scammed out of his bonus without breaking the rules, and using 1 account only, he should get support here.

[Thremp]

Most pro bonus whores make a good bit more than most "pro" cappers. Every serious pro actively takes advantage of +EV bonii and promotions to a very large degree.

[SBR Lou]

More times than not the people posting here for help have "six friends" all sharing a computer with them, blah blah.

Or you get guys who claim they didn't break rules, typically giving you one side of the story with their seemingly always broken English. Good thing I'm not required to stay impartial like Bill, because I usually assume people like that are being disingenuous from the start.

[bigboydan]

I don't mind bonus whores at all Sean72.

I say If a book is going to offer you a nice bonus to play there then by all means take it as long as you know the consequences that go along with it, which does including the possibility of getting stiffed.

If anything I don't like it when the books start complaining about how they have to offer bonuses in order to compete in today industry age.

[imgv94]

I have bad luck bonus hunting.

I get money stuck with the wrong books.

[idontlikerocks]

the people who are good at gambling are essentially winning money from those who are not, with the sportsbook taking a cut. the players who jump in and out of accounts simply to take advantage of the books' bonuses are a hindrance to this process and provide gain for neither the good gambler nor the sportsbook. i would rather u go begging for money at some freeway stop (though i care little for that as well)

[Sean]

Most pro bonus whores make a good bit more than most "pro" cappers. Every serious pro actively takes advantage of +EV bonii and promotions to a very large degree.

Thremp bustin' out the "bonii" ... that's a damn good word right there!

[Bullajami]

I don't see the utility of trying to tell the people here what they should like or who they should like. Would you go to a Hillary rally wearing your Fred Thompson hat and tell people to be nice to you...you haven't broken any rules?

Seek out your own! There are sportsbook bonus chasing forums available.

[HedgeHog]

the people who are good at gambling are essentially winning money from those who are not, with the sportsbook taking a cut. the players who jump in and out of accounts simply to take advantage of the books' bonuses are a hindrance to this process and provide gain for neither the good gambler nor the sportsbook. i would rather u go begging for money at some freeway stop (though i care little for that as well)

I guess your problem is actually with the Book for extending the offer. Good gamblers and Bonus hunters are not mutually exclusive. If you complete the rollover, and still have $$$ in your account, you earned the bonus (no freebie) and are allowed to collect and run to the next good offer. Or re-up, for God forbid, another possible bonus.

[raiders72002]

Most pro bonus whores make a good bit more than most "pro" cappers.

Bullshit. There are caps on bonuses. It's not even close.

Bonus whores are bottom feeders.

[pico]

Bullshit. There are caps on bonuses. It's not even close.

Bonus whores are bottom feeders.

or highschool kids

[Thremp]

Bullshit. There are caps on bonuses. It's not even close.

Bonus whores are bottom feeders.

O RLY?!?!

You're right that its not even close. Someone of equal talent who is looking for +EV bonii and promotions will always do better than someone of the same talent who isn't.

I don't really need to go into depth explaining this. Its like Kelly Criterion. Either you understand the math or you don't.

[Dark Horse]

Let's say ten books offer 20% with a limit of 1K bonus. Would you say no? Or would you deposit at all ten, and reduce it to five books with a single bet? (and then ask the books where you lost if they want to do it again. ) Bonus hunting can be an angle all in itself. I no longer do it because I don't want the headaches of low rated books, but as long as it's not bonus scamming it's a valid way of increasing bankroll.

I'm surprised that books haven't gone back to offering higher bonuses, now that it's much harder to move money around without Neteller.

[HedgeHog]

Without good handicapping, the bonus hunter (or whore as some state), will lose his bonus and then some before the rollover is completed. There is no free lunch here, the bonus has to be earned through multiple action.

[SBR Lou]

Let's say ten books offer 20% with a limit of 1K bonus. Would you say no? Or would you deposit at all ten, and reduce it to five books with a single bet? (and then ask the books where you lost if they want to do it again. ) Bonus hunting can be an angle all in itself. I no longer do it because I don't want the headaches of low rated books, but as long as it's not bonus scamming it's a valid way of increasing bankroll.

I'm surprised that books haven't gone back to offering higher bonuses, now that it's much harder to move money around without Neteller.

Bingo. By the way how is Streaks coming along?

[Thremp]

Without good handicapping

Basic error again. I can't handicap anything and I win handily. Line shopping is far and away more important than handicapping ability. In fact you can make a substantial income just being able to look at numbers and seeing what is off market.

But this is like everything else before it... You either believe it or you... don't.

[Dark Horse]

Bingo. By the way how is Streaks coming along?

I'm out of my losing streak. Ten months... You should try it one day.

Only had winning years before that, so came as a bit of a surprise. But it taught me everything I always wanted to know about the stock market, so it was well worth the trade. One of the best things that ever happened to me.

[katstale]

Glad to see ya hear Thremp. Don't ya remember when people were wondering if that Mansion guaranteed 1k NFL bet last year was for real? Perfect spot for the capper and the whore.

Always got to be looking for +EV. Don't beat your head against the wall with some folks here--and don't be bashful to throw out a few good props when you got them.

Your rep precedes you.

[Thremp]

Glad to see ya hear Thremp.


Your rep precedes you.

These two comments don't connect. But thanks

[SBR Lou]

I'm out of my losing streak. Ten months... You should try it one day.

I mean the thread where you were looking for feedback on a book. I assumed you were in the process of writing one.

[HedgeHog]

Basic error again. I can't handicap anything and I win handily. Line shopping is far and away more important than handicapping ability. In fact you can make a substantial income just being able to look at numbers and seeing what is off market.

But this is like everything else before it... You either believe it or you... don't.

I believe it. All I'm saying is the bonus hunter has to complete the rollover and that usually offsets the bonus and then some for the average Joe. Sharps can make out by both (1) accepting bonuses with modest rollover requirements and (2) line shopping.

[Stumpage]

Yeah, I don't quite understand it myself. I haven't had any type of bonus for quite a while now, but to be honest I agree with what Dark Horse noted, namely that bonuses can be a hassle when all is said and done.

But if somebody gets a nice bonus at a book, or several books, more power to them. I don't see what the problem is. There seems to be some sort of strange Code of Honour among a few that this doesn't "Make them a Man", or something laughable like that. It's like "Sure I lost a ton of money, but at least I didn't lose bonus cash. It was all mine..." Just weird, really.

[Dark Horse]

I mean the thread where you were looking for feedback on a book. I assumed you were in the process of writing one.

No, I was just looking for a title. Already writing another little something.

Streaks are the key to gambling. If you understand streaks, you can cheat a losing streak by lowering your bet size to peanuts (if the ego can handle that), and increase bet size during a winning streak. I love streaks.

[raiders72002]

Thremp- You can't explain a thing to me. Bonuses are peanuts to what pro cappers can make. Bonuses are just an extra.

Anyone can scalp out bonuses but very few can cap.

[Thremp]

Thremp- You can't explain a thing to me. Bonuses are peanuts to what pro cappers can make. Bonuses are just an extra.

Anyone can scalp out bonuses but very few can cap.

I know. But to put a number to "peanuts". Most people that I worked with previously in glory days of Neteller (we were all fairly new and had ~25k-50k rolls) were doing ~4k a month in bonii alone in addition to +EV bets for almost every wager with no "handicapping" as you would call it.

And I think there is a big difference between what pro cappers "can make" and what most "do make".

Bonii are totally an extra, but a very large and substantial extra that can be a very significant part of your sports betting earnings. Not as much as in the past, but it still still make up a substantial part of anyone's earnings into the six figure area.

[HedgeHog]

Thremp- You can't explain a thing to me. Bonuses are peanuts to what pro cappers can make. Bonuses are just an extra.

Anyone can scalp out bonuses but very few can cap.

So why not take the bonus and use your 'capping to beat the place. Sounds win-win to me.

[raiders72002]

Sure, you take the bonus as it's an added freebie. Thremp's statement was that bonus hunters make more than pros. I disagree with that.

[Thremp]

Sure, you take the bonus as it's an added freebie. Thremp's statement was that bonus hunters make more than pros. I disagree with that.

They are one in the same.

[raiders72002]

Guys can make a living scalping, Pinnacle to the old Mansion but today using the money solely from bonuses to make a living is impossible.

Pro cappers can make a living solely from capping.

Bonuses are something to be used by both pro cappers and pro scalpers.

A pro capper can use scalping and bonuses. A bonus whore can just scalp.

[raiders72002]

Playing both sides +125 and -120 is miniscule compared to knowing what the right side of that play is.