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    Anyone else tired of Bookmaker.eu cheating you on the betslip?

    Bet Chiefs -7.5 at -102.

    After I click submit it moved to -114. Then accepted the bet.

    They just screwed me over for $4800 in juice. Absolute crooks.

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    nice humblebrag

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    Not at all, this is sickening.

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    Same thing happened to me! It is getting ridiculous. It is not a tech glitch, they're doing it on purpose.

    Look at the line history on Chiefs the last 30 mins before game time. The Chiefs are -110, -112, -114 very consistently. Then at least twice all of a sudden the line goes to -102 or -104 and basically immediately jumps back to the -112 range. Why would they do that? Do you really think someone pounded the Raiders and they moved Chiefs to -104... and then immediately got pounded on Chiefs and wanted it back at -114?

    No, they are hoping for exactly what happened to me. I am waiting for a good Chiefs number, it pops up, then as I hit submit they change the number on me to -114. They just created free action for themselves at a number that is total shit.

    They literally stole $2000 in juice from me. (Either $4000 in juice or $0 in juice). If they stiffed me $2000, SBR would investigate, but this betslip juice trick and SBR has nothing to say?

    The solution is very simple. If they're going to change the number while you have a betslip open, that bet slip has to CLOSE or ERASE the bet amount you've typed in, forcing you to re-enter it knowing there is a new #.

    This plus the Betonline 'BAD old # available but GOOD old # unavailable' are the two biggest dirty secrets of the industry right now that noone is discussing.

    Both these fukking shops down to A- in my book.

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    you guys can change your settings so the bet doesnt get accepted if the line changes. You only have yourselves to blame for not understanding this before you bet large amounts

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    At this point you should worry about even winning that bet.

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    How come you donít get a message if you want to accept the change or not that doesnít make any sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by goduke View Post
    you guys can change your settings so the bet doesnt get accepted if the line changes. You only have yourselves to blame for not understanding this before you bet large amounts
    Ugh, INCORRECT. My settings are DO NOT ACCEPT LINE CHANGE, obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    How come you don’t get a message if you want to accept the change or not that doesn’t make any sense
    It's on purpose.
    jjgold get a supervisor on the phone tomorrow

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    I tried to put in a teaser for a nickle five times and they kept changing the line. I finally got it in and knew it was a winner already. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeppckts View Post
    Ugh, INCORRECT. My settings are DO NOT ACCEPT LINE CHANGE, obviously.
    thereís always some smart guy late to the party providing their incorrect input

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluehorseshoe View Post
    I tried to put in a teaser for a nickle five times and they kept changing the line. I finally got it in and knew it was a winner already. lol
    They can change the line all they want, I don't care. But you can't do it just as my thumb is hitting the enter button. If you change the line, you have to close the betslip or zero out the bet amount.

    PINNACLE is the only major book, alongside credit places, that do this CORRECTLY and FAIRLY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goduke View Post
    you guys can change your settings so the bet doesnt get accepted if the line changes. You only have yourselves to blame for not understanding this before you bet large amounts
    exactly

    You guys are betting 10's of thousands of dollars and didn't know how to do this?

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    I think it's automated. If you watch them on a live feed their prices jump around quite a bit just before closing. I sometimes see multiple large adjustments made within a couple seconds of each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icon View Post
    exactly

    You guys are betting 10's of thousands of dollars and didn't know how to do this?
    Can you fukkin read? That's what I have selected. PLUS it's the default.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbobets View Post
    I think it's automated. If you watch them on a live feed their prices jump around quite a bit just before closing. I sometimes see multiple large adjustments made within a couple seconds of each other.
    No, it's not, it's what I described above. They do it on purpose. These moves make NO sense from an automated point of view, and never happen in the smaller markets. It's always the big games within 30 mins of them beginning.

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    yeah I went to belt the colts live

    at -2.5 -111 they moved it to -112

    that is 143,250 dollars in juice they just stole from me

    It's getting kind of annoying

    i'm miffed

    enough is enough
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    Yes archie i know for squares like you it's hard to imagine there exist people betting tens of thousands.
    It's almost like the 50k spread limits are there for a reason.

    'SBR PROs' think actual pros are unicorns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeppckts View Post
    Ugh, INCORRECT. My settings are DO NOT ACCEPT LINE CHANGE, obviously.
    You should accept in favor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    yeah I went to belt the colts live

    at -2.5 -111 they moved it to -112

    that is 143,250 dollars in juice they just stole from me

    It's getting kind of annoying

    i'm miffed

    enough is enough
    Iím talking about about a real bet for $40,000 here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeppckts View Post
    No, it's not, it's what I described above. They do it on purpose. These moves make NO sense from an automated point of view, and never happen in the smaller markets. It's always the big games within 30 mins of them beginning.
    I hear you just saying I've seen line moves from them that are arbs for few seconds than a quick correction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    yeah I went to belt the colts live

    at -2.5 -111 they moved it to -112

    that is 143,250 dollars in juice they just stole from me

    It's getting kind of annoying

    i'm miffed

    enough is enough
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeppckts View Post
    Can you fukkin read? That's what I have selected. PLUS it's the default.
    You should be making multiple screenshots of the bet process to back up your claim.

    I believe what you're saying but in order to settle a dispute should one occur it would be good info to have.

    It would also show people that some books aren't as ethical as they appear to bettors.

    PS: I have never made a bet for more than $500 in the last 10 years so this is not something I'm familiar with.
    Last edited by icon; 11-22-20 at 08:14 PM.

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    Known problem for months

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    Quote Originally Posted by icon View Post
    You should be making multiple screenshots of the bet process to back up your claim. I believe what you're saying but in order to settle a dispute it would be good info to have.
    I would need a desktop video recorder or something. It happens fast, which is the whole point, it's impossible to stop yourself from putting in the bet just as they move the line against you. And of course it's ALWAYS against you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeppckts View Post
    I would need a desktop video recorder or something. It happens fast, which is the whole point, it's impossible to stop yourself from putting in the bet just as they move the line against you. And of course it's ALWAYS against you.
    This is not hard to do, the software exists (used to be native in Win10 but I'm not sure anymore) to do screen recording as well as screenshots.

    Here is one for chrome:
    https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...jnibhccn?hl=no

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    My betslip is set to ďAccept Line Changes Only In My FavourĒ.

    Obviously that is just there for show cause it doesnít work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icon View Post
    This is not hard to do, the software exists (used to be native in Win10 but I'm not sure anymore) to do screen recording as well as screenshots.

    Here is one for chrome:
    https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...jnibhccn?hl=no
    Perfect, Iím going to catch them in the act. Thank you.

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    Maybe just should do no changes to be safe I think that one does always work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAUS View Post
    I’m talking about about a real bet for $40,000 here.

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    That really sucks BAUS, damn

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAUS View Post
    Perfect, I’m going to catch them in the act. Thank you.

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    see this is how easy it is

    https://streamable.com/otkb3z
    Last edited by icon; 11-22-20 at 08:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAUS View Post
    Perfect, I’m going to catch them in the act. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAUS View Post
    My betslip is set to “Accept Line Changes Only In My Favour”.

    Obviously that is just there for show cause it doesn’t work.

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    I believe that setting does work.

    But the problem is the line changing in the betslip as you move to click bet. So you are actually submitting the bet at the different line.


    They have been given feedback that a hard warning of an odds change when in the betslip would solve this issue.

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