Anyone else tired of Bookmaker.eu cheating you on the betslip?

**icon** · 11-22-20, 08:36 PM

nice humblebrag

**BAUS** · 11-22-20, 08:36 PM

Not at all, this is sickening.

BAUS

**icon** · 11-22-20, 08:38 PM

"juice doesn't matter if you win"

**deeppckts** · 11-22-20, 08:40 PM

Same thing happened to me! It is getting ridiculous. It is not a tech glitch, they're doing it on purpose.

Look at the line history on Chiefs the last 30 mins before game time. The Chiefs are -110, -112, -114 very consistently. Then at least twice all of a sudden the line goes to -102 or -104 and basically immediately jumps back to the -112 range. Why would they do that? Do you really think someone pounded the Raiders and they moved Chiefs to -104... and then immediately got pounded on Chiefs and wanted it back at -114?

No, they are hoping for exactly what happened to me. I am waiting for a good Chiefs number, it pops up, then as I hit submit they change the number on me to -114. They just created free action for themselves at a number that is total shit.

They literally stole $2000 in juice from me. (Either $4000 in juice or $0 in juice). If they stiffed me $2000, SBR would investigate, but this betslip juice trick and SBR has nothing to say?

The solution is very simple. If they're going to change the number while you have a betslip open, that bet slip has to CLOSE or ERASE the bet amount you've typed in, forcing you to re-enter it knowing there is a new #.

This plus the Betonline 'BAD old # available but GOOD old # unavailable' are the two biggest dirty secrets of the industry right now that noone is discussing.

Both these fukking shops down to A- in my book.

**gauchojake** · 11-22-20, 08:45 PM

business as usual

**goduke** · 11-22-20, 08:54 PM

you guys can change your settings so the bet doesnt get accepted if the line changes. You only have yourselves to blame for not understanding this before you bet large amounts

**pimike** · 11-22-20, 08:56 PM

At this point you should worry about even winning that bet.

**jjgold** · 11-22-20, 08:56 PM

How come you don’t get a message if you want to accept the change or not that doesn’t make any sense

**deeppckts** · 11-22-20, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by goduke

you guys can change your settings so the bet doesnt get accepted if the line changes. You only have yourselves to blame for not understanding this before you bet large amounts

Ugh, INCORRECT. My settings are DO NOT ACCEPT LINE CHANGE, obviously.

**deeppckts** · 11-22-20, 08:58 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

How come you don’t get a message if you want to accept the change or not that doesn’t make any sense

It's on purpose.
jjgold get a supervisor on the phone tomorrow

**Bluehorseshoe** · 11-22-20, 08:58 PM

I tried to put in a teaser for a nickle five times and they kept changing the line. I finally got it in and knew it was a winner already. lol

**jtoler** · 11-22-20, 09:00 PM

Originally posted by deeppckts

Ugh, INCORRECT. My settings are DO NOT ACCEPT LINE CHANGE, obviously.

there’s always some smart guy late to the party providing their incorrect input

**deeppckts** · 11-22-20, 09:00 PM

Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe

I tried to put in a teaser for a nickle five times and they kept changing the line. I finally got it in and knew it was a winner already. lol

They can change the line all they want, I don't care. But you can't do it just as my thumb is hitting the enter button. If you change the line, you have to close the betslip or zero out the bet amount.

PINNACLE is the only major book, alongside credit places, that do this CORRECTLY and FAIRLY.

**icon** · 11-22-20, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by goduke

you guys can change your settings so the bet doesnt get accepted if the line changes. You only have yourselves to blame for not understanding this before you bet large amounts

exactly

You guys are betting 10's of thousands of dollars and didn't know how to do this?

**turbobets** · 11-22-20, 09:03 PM

I think it's automated. If you watch them on a live feed their prices jump around quite a bit just before closing. I sometimes see multiple large adjustments made within a couple seconds of each other.

**deeppckts** · 11-22-20, 09:04 PM

Originally posted by icon

exactly

You guys are betting 10's of thousands of dollars and didn't know how to do this?

Can you fukkin read? That's what I have selected. PLUS it's the default.

**deeppckts** · 11-22-20, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by turbobets

I think it's automated. If you watch them on a live feed their prices jump around quite a bit just before closing. I sometimes see multiple large adjustments made within a couple seconds of each other.

No, it's not, it's what I described above. They do it on purpose. These moves make NO sense from an automated point of view, and never happen in the smaller markets. It's always the big games within 30 mins of them beginning.

**Chi_archie** · 11-22-20, 09:07 PM

yeah I went to belt the colts live

at -2.5 -111 they moved it to -112

that is 143,250 dollars in juice they just stole from me

It's getting kind of annoying

i'm miffed

enough is enough

**deeppckts** · 11-22-20, 09:08 PM

Yes archie i know for squares like you it's hard to imagine there exist people betting tens of thousands.
It's almost like the 50k spread limits are there for a reason.

'SBR PROs' think actual pros are unicorns.

**rm18** · 11-22-20, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by deeppckts

Ugh, INCORRECT. My settings are DO NOT ACCEPT LINE CHANGE, obviously.

You should accept in favor

**BAUS** · 11-22-20, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

yeah I went to belt the colts live

at -2.5 -111 they moved it to -112

that is 143,250 dollars in juice they just stole from me

It's getting kind of annoying

i'm miffed

enough is enough

I’m talking about about a real bet for $40,000 here.

BAUS

**turbobets** · 11-22-20, 09:10 PM

Originally posted by deeppckts

No, it's not, it's what I described above. They do it on purpose. These moves make NO sense from an automated point of view, and never happen in the smaller markets. It's always the big games within 30 mins of them beginning.

I hear you just saying I've seen line moves from them that are arbs for few seconds than a quick correction.

**turbobets** · 11-22-20, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

yeah I went to belt the colts live

at -2.5 -111 they moved it to -112

that is 143,250 dollars in juice they just stole from me

It's getting kind of annoying

i'm miffed

enough is enough

lol

**icon** · 11-22-20, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by deeppckts

Can you fukkin read? That's what I have selected. PLUS it's the default.

You should be making multiple screenshots of the bet process to back up your claim.

I believe what you're saying but in order to settle a dispute should one occur it would be good info to have.

It would also show people that some books aren't as ethical as they appear to bettors.

PS: I have never made a bet for more than $500 in the last 10 years so this is not something I'm familiar with.

**big joe 1212** · 11-22-20, 09:11 PM

Known problem for months

Nobody does anything about it

**deeppckts** · 11-22-20, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by icon

You should be making multiple screenshots of the bet process to back up your claim. I believe what you're saying but in order to settle a dispute it would be good info to have.

I would need a desktop video recorder or something. It happens fast, which is the whole point, it's impossible to stop yourself from putting in the bet just as they move the line against you. And of course it's ALWAYS against you.

**icon** · 11-22-20, 09:17 PM

Originally posted by deeppckts

I would need a desktop video recorder or something. It happens fast, which is the whole point, it's impossible to stop yourself from putting in the bet just as they move the line against you. And of course it's ALWAYS against you.

This is not hard to do, the software exists (used to be native in Win10 but I'm not sure anymore) to do screen recording as well as screenshots.

Here is one for chrome:

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/screensy-screen-recording/jehgkfidilkpfbodnbjddbnmjnibhccn?hl=no

**BAUS** · 11-22-20, 09:19 PM

My betslip is set to “Accept Line Changes Only In My Favour”.

Obviously that is just there for show cause it doesn’t work.

BAUS

**BAUS** · 11-22-20, 09:21 PM

Originally posted by icon

This is not hard to do, the software exists (used to be native in Win10 but I'm not sure anymore) to do screen recording as well as screenshots.

Here is one for chrome:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...jnibhccn?hl=no

Perfect, I’m going to catch them in the act. Thank you.

BAUS

**rm18** · 11-22-20, 09:23 PM

Maybe just should do no changes to be safe I think that one does always work.

**Fishhead** · 11-22-20, 09:25 PM

Originally posted by BAUS

I’m talking about about a real bet for $40,000 here.

BAUS

That really sucks BAUS, damn

**icon** · 11-22-20, 09:26 PM

Originally posted by BAUS

Perfect, I’m going to catch them in the act. Thank you.

BAUS

see this is how easy it is

https://streamable.com/otkb3z

**icon** · 11-22-20, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by BAUS

Perfect, I’m going to catch them in the act. Thank you.

BAUS

https://streamable.com/otkb3z

**Optional** · 11-22-20, 09:30 PM

Originally posted by BAUS

My betslip is set to “Accept Line Changes Only In My Favour”.

Obviously that is just there for show cause it doesn’t work.

BAUS

I believe that setting does work.

But the problem is the line changing in the betslip as you move to click bet. So you are actually submitting the bet at the different line.

They have been given feedback that a hard warning of an odds change when in the betslip would solve this issue.