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  • colt29
    SBR Sharp
    • 03-22-07
    • 381

    #1
    Pleaser bets
    Does anyone else but betonline offer these? They are hard to hit, but a 3 teamer at 17-1, you can't match that. Plus you can use all overs/unders. Anyone here bet these?
  • JBC77
    SBR MVP
    • 03-23-07
    • 3816

    #2
    I don't bet pleasers, but I think BetJam offers them.
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    • Justin7
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 07-31-06
      • 8577

      #3
      If a 3-teamer pays 17:1, you need to hit 38.2% of each leg to break even. That's tough to do, at least with spreads. This is workable with totals though - especially NCAAF games with high totals.

      Are there any restrictions re: totals?
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      • raiders72002
        SBR MVP
        • 03-06-07
        • 3368

        #4
        There's a few that offer pleasers, but I've only found one with no restrictions although I haven't pushed the envelope to the max.

        I play 2 teamers at 6-1.
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        • biggamer3
          SBR MVP
          • 04-16-07
          • 2163

          #5
          Guys please define what a pleaser is?
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          • raiders72002
            SBR MVP
            • 03-06-07
            • 3368

            #6
            It's the opposite of a teaser. You give 6 points instead of get.

            Ex. The line is GB -10. If you play a pleaser you get GB -16.
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            • ShamsWoof10
              SBR MVP
              • 11-15-06
              • 4827

              #7
              Pleasers are great I agree.... Usually and especially in College foots the spread isn't even close a lot of times... Usually when someone hits a teaser it would have won as a parlay... 5Dimes has pleasers too...

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              • colt29
                SBR Sharp
                • 03-22-07
                • 381

                #8
                No restrictions I know of.
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                • RickySteve
                  Restricted User
                  • 01-31-06
                  • 3415

                  #9
                  Dozens of books offer pleasers. +600/+1700/+4500/+12000/+30000 is the standard pricing for all but three that I've seen. BetJam pays less for 3-teamers on up, and Heritage's payouts are just robbery.

                  Also, Wagerweb has 3-point pleasers which were once profitable in certain spots until they lowered the returns.
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                  • raiders72002
                    SBR MVP
                    • 03-06-07
                    • 3368

                    #10
                    Dozens of books offer pleasers.Dozens of books offer pleasers.
                    But most have restrictions.
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                    • ShamsWoof10
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-15-06
                      • 4827

                      #11
                      How about we start a list of all the books that offer them with the odds and notations like restrictions...?

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                      • RickySteve
                        Restricted User
                        • 01-31-06
                        • 3415

                        #12
                        Originally posted by raiders72002
                        But most have restrictions.
                        Um, no.
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                        • HedgeHog
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 09-11-07
                          • 10128

                          #13
                          Pleasers are not good bets on sides (college or pro), but you might find a slight edge on very high totals as Justin stated. Skybook has pleasers with very few restrictions. 6-1 on 2-teamers and 17-1 on three-teamers (plus more teams if you really feel lucky).
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                          • biggamer3
                            SBR MVP
                            • 04-16-07
                            • 2163

                            #14
                            Originally posted by raiders72002
                            It's the opposite of a teaser. You give 6 points instead of get.

                            Ex. The line is GB -10. If you play a pleaser you get GB -16.


                            Sounds good

                            I would pleaser the Giants and Bengals this week
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                            • ShamsWoof10
                              SBR MVP
                              • 11-15-06
                              • 4827

                              #15
                              so far books that have pleasers...

                              5Dimes
                              BetJam
                              Skybook
                              Gamblers Palace

                              I'm sure I missed some...

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                              • HedgeHog
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 09-11-07
                                • 10128

                                #16
                                Originally posted by biggamer3


                                Sounds good

                                I would pleaser the Giants and Bengals this week
                                Ties lose on pleasers, so basically you need the NYG and Cincy to win by 10 or more each (both on the road). At 6-1, this doesn't sound to good to me.
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                                • WestsidePete
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 07-19-07
                                  • 8049

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                  Ties lose on pleasers, so basically you need the NYG and Cincy to win by 10 or more each (both on the road). At 6-1, this doesn't sound to good to me.
                                  maybe not that one....what about South Carolina -13 and BC -20 at ND?? SC could win by 14 and BC by 21... My book doesn't offer this stuff...I wish it did
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                                  • HedgeHog
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 09-11-07
                                    • 10128

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by WestsidePete
                                    maybe not that one....what about South Carolina -13 and BC -20 at ND?? SC could win by 14 and BC by 21... My book doesn't offer this stuff...I wish it did
                                    Better, but fair value on this is probably closer to 9-1. Best bet would be to concentrate on the highest college totals like Hawaii/ SJ St (70) ,MN/NW (65.5), LV/Cin (66), Tol/Buf (62), Bay/Kan (61), Rice/Hou (66.5), WA St/Ore (68.5), OK St/Neb (62.5), Marsh/Tulsa (70.5), Ind/Mich St (62), A&M/TT (69.5), MO/OK (61), EC/UTEP (65), LA-Mon/N.Tex (62.5).

                                    Don't know if I got them all, but at 60 and higher totals, the 6 points doesn't mean as much. With good handicapping, this is where pleasers might be advantageous.
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                                    • jjgold
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388179

                                      #19
                                      They are exotic bets so I beleive they are sucker bets no matter what the odds.
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                                      • HedgeHog
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 09-11-07
                                        • 10128

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                        They are exotic bets so I beleive they are sucker bets no matter what the odds.
                                        You're probably right, but the 6 point sell on extremely high totals (2-teamers 6-1, 3-teamers 17-1) gives you the best chance to collect. At worst, it cuts the Book's edge down to a respectable level.
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                                        • prop
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-04-07
                                          • 1073

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by jjgold
                                          They are exotic bets so I beleive they are sucker bets no matter what the odds.
                                          Yeah and pleasers are the worst of them all.
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                                          • louis
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 09-23-06
                                            • 763

                                            #22
                                            I agree with hedgehog that very high college totals are the only way to go. Anyone betting pleasers on NFL spreads and/or totals is going to lose their money very fast. It may seem like these are easy to hit, but the book is paying 6 to 1 for a reason: they are NOT easy to hit. Bet Jamaica is even worse at 5 to 1 for 2 teamers. Stay away!

                                            The problem with very high college totals, there may have not been enough of these games in the past to have a large enough sample size to study this. Even if they paid off in the past, they may no longer do so. I would think one needs to handicap the game, specifically the variance of the total and what factors effect this statistic. For example, the pleasers are probably more likely to hit in the beginning of the season when the variance in the spreads and total is higher. For example, if the spread should be 75, a bookmaker is more likely to miss this in the beginning of the season and put up a spread of 65.
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                                            • ShamsWoof10
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 11-15-06
                                              • 4827

                                              #23
                                              I would disagree for one simple reason... According to a chart put up not long ago here on how often spreads come into play.(push) the percentage was not all that high and anything in double digits was lower... Spreads do not usually matter that is why you see teasers that come in usually didn't need to be teased... I agree in the NFL it's not nearly effective but College is another story... The margin of victory in college is crazy sometimes...

                                              The one thing about pleasers is the psycological effect of seeing a bigger spread and making you more hesistant... The psycological effect is opposite with a teaser and they look more tempting... Again it usually doesn't matter...

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