Any Stale Complaints at the Following Books?

curious · 10-10-07, 12:04 AM

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Justin7 · 10-10-07, 12:17 AM

I don't follow the other books, but there are occasional slow-pay complaints with Royal.

Why take those kind of risks when there are plenty of safer books around?

bigboydan · 10-10-07, 01:14 AM

I haven't read any new complaints about Megasb lately. I know their lines are usually horrible, and there S/W is extremely bad though to the point of almost being unusable IMO.

I haven't read anything as of late on Instantaction at all in regards to any slow pay/no pays. Although, what I do remember about them was the fact that there s/w times out way too often, and the limits were a dime on the sides and totals. They are a small book that seems to rely on interesting offering to stay competitive to it's customers.

I remember there were a few complaints about Enterbet not 2 months ago actually. They refused to pay it's player and or players there funds due to a possible "bonus abuse investigation", which enterbet did fail to prove.

Now as far as Royal and Dimeline goes. Well, I think there association and history pretty much tell you all you really need to know about those two books.

I concur with Justin's comments above NG. However, I know you like to gamble on those high risk books.

Newguyintown · 10-10-07, 01:42 PM

What is S/W?

jjgold · 10-10-07, 01:48 PM

I would not play at any of those books except maybe beteagle

SBR Lou · 10-10-07, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by Newguyintown

What is S/W?

Software.

jjgold · 10-10-07, 02:31 PM

I thought Bet Eagle was a credit facility

louis · 10-10-07, 02:55 PM

Check out the A rated books

Newguyintown, I am concerned about the sportsbooks that you mention in your post. They seem to be rated C or lower. My concern is that since the departure of neteller, there has been a flight to quality, and only the best sportsbooks - those rated A, perhaps B etc. etc. - are getting the volume of customers to insure they have enough finances to make your withdrawals.

I would stick to A rated books for now.

bigboydan · 10-10-07, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

I thought Bet Eagle was a credit facility

I think they are a postup shop nowadays, but it's really a small part of there business though coach.

If memory serves me correctly. Actionbets just moved to the BetEagle platform for processing purposes, and is really only a turnkey outfit.

bigboydan · 10-11-07, 01:25 AM

So NG, Did you decided yet if you planned on playing at any of these books you mentioned above. If so which one/ones?

Aces · 10-11-07, 02:28 AM

Haven't you learned your lesson yet ? I know you love your D books. I love Skanky Whores but I've learned not to mess around with them to much.

bigboydan · 10-11-07, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by Newguyintown

I'm looking to get back out on the market and was hoping SBR and the moderators could help me out. I'm looking to join up with the following books and was wondering if there were any complaints, generally how many, and whether they are stale or brand-new. In my opinion, and often overlooked, STALE complaints are the most important factor in evaluating a book. The absence of stale complaints would seem to mean that all past affairs have been resolved.

Actionbets/Beteagle

Enterbet

Dimeline- my forum reading here shows Future Bet is having problems

Royal

Ultimate-odds

Megasb

Instantaction

NG

Heres a complaint currently in dispute right now NG. Apparently they are dodging this gentleman's dispute at dimeline.

Newguyintown · 10-12-07, 10:37 PM

"So NG, Did you decided yet if you planned on playing at any of these books you mentioned above. If so which one/ones?"

Thanks for all your replies Bigboydan.

I've researched all the threads and come to the following conclusions. Please let me know any further comments guys (particularly mods!)

1) Jazette. These books are paying consistently now. Sure if you do something questionable like mess around with bonuses or I guess this new correlated parlay stuff you're in danger. But I've always been paid and these books manage to stick around. I'm in.

2) Betus. Well Justin did a comprehensive look and 60 complaints were all taken care of. So 3 more trickle in, my bet is in a month or two they'll be taken care of and a few more will trickle in. I'm in.

3) Royal. Damn I had written this- Dozer says, "Royal has been on top of day-to-day stuff and were possibly gonna upgrade to a C....in short term expect same service" and wish I could find the date that he wrote this. I don't think I'd of written it unless it were post-SBG. Anyway there were like 5 guys who all waited a bit and then got paid. Now we have three slowpays from flyguy, expertuser and curious right now. My guess- they wait a month or so and then get paid. Probably in.

4) Dimeline. Well this one looks bad. Two month slowplays for non-Americans and this G2gbet complete stiffjob and them I'm reading that Futurebet employees are being stiffed. Also I know about the Futurebet pokerroom stiffjobs. Right now we have Glopez waiting on something so keep my eye on that. I'm out.

5) Enterbet. Downgraded for some bonus abuse investigation. But is that it? I wouldn't let one isolated abuse thing keep me from a book. Unless there is a systematic no-pay going on, then I'm in.

6) Instantaction. Don't see anything on here so I guess I'm in?

7) Actionbets. Again don't see anything on here so I'm in?

8) Ultimate-odds. Gonna post on this one specifically.

Comments very welcome!

NG

bigboydan · 10-12-07, 10:54 PM

I must say NG... You sure do have some stones playing at some of those particular books.

Kind of off topic here in regards to the books mentioned above. However, might I ask what your take is on Lazerwager and bet911?

I for one am skeptical of both these books, especially Lazerwager since it's a rather new book. Bet911 has been around for a while now, but I for one have to wonder about there past in regards to there future payouts. I have considered trying both these books out in the immediate future, but I haven't pulled the trigger just yet.

Newguyintown · 10-12-07, 11:11 PM

"I must say NG... You sure do have some stones playing at some of those particular books."

I dont have stones, I'm scared shitless! And I don't even know if I want to get involved at all. When I say "I'm in" that's code for, "if I decide to even play at all, I'm in."

I checked out lazerwager, hadn't even heard of them as I haven't really been keeping up. Yeah a brand new book is a whole different thing entirely. These other books have problems but they seem to be rotating problems, so it would only be temporary.

NG

HedgeHog · 10-13-07, 03:44 PM

[QUOTE=Newguyintown;376883]"So NG, Did you decided yet if you planned on playing at any of these books you mentioned above. If so which one/ones?"

Thanks for all your replies Bigboydan.

I've researched all the threads and come to the following conclusions. Please let me know any further comments guys (particularly mods!)

1) Jazette. These books are paying consistently now. Sure if you do something questionable like mess around with bonuses or I guess this new correlated parlay stuff you're in danger. But I've always been paid and these books manage to stick around. I'm in.

While they are paying consistently now, $2500 max checks in 2-3 weeks, they don't go by standard Vegas rules. They screwed Baseball players because of a minor misspelling. They screwed Football players, myself included, because of pars they deemed correlated--over 1 month after the fact. I just asked for my remaining balance after they stole 9 grand from me--and I had been there for over 5 years. By signing up with them now, it's like boarding the Titanic in April 1912. If you win big there, they will take you down with some new rule they make up. You're singing up with a D- Book IMO. Stay away from Sportsbook.com (Jazette).

BAUS · 10-13-07, 08:45 PM

I can say that Instant Action sent me a good sized payout today.

BAUS

icemantbi · 10-14-07, 12:49 AM

Don't bother with those shitty books. The only books you should be considering are either Matchbook, Pinnacle, The Greek or BetJam. Pinny is my favourite and where most of my action goes, but I'm not a US citizen (Canadian) so if you are from the US, then Greek, Betjam and Matchbook are your best bets.

bigboydan · 10-14-07, 01:03 AM

Originally posted by BAUS

I can say that Instant Action sent me a good sized payout today.

BAUS

That is good to hear Baus. I will make a note of this thread in case anyone else inquires about this book in the near future.

Newguyintown · 10-14-07, 11:42 PM

Appreciate the update Baus- useful stuff.

NG

Bill Dozer · 10-15-07, 01:08 AM

3) Royal. Damn I had written this- Dozer says, "Royal has been on top of day-to-day stuff and were possibly gonna upgrade to a C....in short term expect same service" and wish I could find the date that he wrote this. I don't think I'd of written it unless it were post-SBG. Anyway there were like 5 guys who all waited a bit and then got paid. Now we have three slowpays from flyguy, expertuser and curious right now. My guess- they wait a month or so and then get paid. Probably in.

This week will close with some big reports on major sportsbook scams. It looks like SBG/Royal will be included.

As you guys know, tout sites also recommend books. It looks as though one of these cappers sent his players in SBG. The capper warned SBG that his plays were winning before hand but they said they didn't care as long as no one was playing line moves..."all players eventually lose." One long winning streak later and SBG has locked all the accounts claiming syndicate play. No circumventing of limits or pounding moves....just a group hitting the same plays as if they came from a big football thread. This one is still being looked at but SBG is offering silly reasons for locking down balances which is consistent with what they have done in the past when they wanted to snatch big sums of cash.

Bill Dozer · 10-15-07, 01:11 AM

NewGuy,

I'm not sure I understand correctly but those comments were made in regards to old Royal. Royal being an SBG book is untouchable for any player who want to do more than a hit-n-run on a juicy line. Beware.

Al Masters · 10-15-07, 01:53 AM

Hey Newguyintown,

I don't mean to be rude and this is just friendly advice, so i hope you take it as just that.

You started a thread wondering bout a bunch of books, you get a great response and great advice from posters curious, justin7. bigboydan,jjgold,louis,aces and iceman , between them they have about like 50k posts so you'd think they have a bit of expeience, however they said what they said, they let you know those books weren't in your best interest and you'd be much better(no pun intended) of at other joints.

Yet after all that good info you recieved from them you only publicly acknowledged poster baus for his positive feedback on one of your inquiries,which was nice of you.

Then after getting that good info what do you do with it,
you come to the conclusion that 5\8 are your type of books(im in). another is a probable ,one is a post and one you have no intersest in(im out).

WoW!! talk about throwing a good education away.

Do you like money? If so perhaps you should rethink your conclusion as one of the good things about SBR is that along with some of the nonsense posts there are great posts to learn from. you were lucky enough to get a quick education on what you wanted to know from some of the best in the buisness, yet for some inexpliquable reason you chose to disregard the good info.

Remember one thing its never to late to learn, reread what they all said and then read your conclusion..........where is the sanity in your conclusion.

DISREGARD THIS ADVICE IF YOU DON'T LIKE MONEY.

bigboydan · 10-15-07, 05:08 AM

NG acknowledged and thanked me AL, but thats a moot point.

You gotta understand what type of player NG is to understand why he's inquiring about these extremely shaky books. I mean you don't think Baus plays there for his health do you.

bigboydan · 10-15-07, 05:40 AM

Originally posted by Newguyintown

I checked out lazerwager, hadn't even heard of them as I haven't really been keeping up. Yeah a brand new book is a whole different thing entirely. These other books have problems but they seem to be rotating problems, so it would only be temporary.

NG

I've heard the rumors that Lenny could have a vested interest in them, but since all the investors are pretty much anonymous who really knows. Now with that being said needless to say I'm passing on trying them out at this time.

BAUS · 10-15-07, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by bigboydan

NG acknowledged and thanked me AL, but thats a moot point.

You gotta understand what type of player NG is to understand why he's inquiring about these extremely shaky books. I mean you don't think Baus plays there for his health do you.

Of course not. I am a slut.

BAUS

Al Masters · 10-15-07, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by bigboydan

NG acknowledged and thanked me AL, but thats a moot point.

You gotta understand what type of player NG is to understand why he's inquiring about these extremely shaky books. I mean you don't think Baus plays there for his health do you.

Hey BBD, yes he did acknowledge you ,that was kind of him.I only wish him and all others good fortune in however or with whoever they play with.

I'm no maven when it comes to sportsbetting, however i'd like to think i have an open mind and can understand other ways of thinking even if i don't agree.

So give me an education BBD,

What type of player is a guy like NG or any other who inquires about shakey books, gets advice and goes the opposite?

Baus gave his recomendation, im not here to challenge that,if all other recomendations were of that nature i'd understand him coming to the conclusion he came to, but they weren't.

Perhaps there is a good reason for wanting to play with shakey books, if you can explain that to me i wanna understand.

At the moment i can only see\compare it to a contestant on millionaire asking the audience for help, getting 85% on it being A ,yet he choses B at 9%. I suppose he can be right or have a reason.

I just can't see the sharpness or benefit in it.

bigboydan · 10-15-07, 08:10 PM

My guess would be he scalper/middler/bonus hunter. Otherwise why would anyone consider playing with these books at all when they know of the forum. I'm not saying there anything wrong with these types of players at all. In fact those types of players might not put there money at risk in regards to actually betting, but they do take a bigger risk in regards to trying to get paid from some of these shady books that are out there.

THE HITMAN · 10-15-07, 08:10 PM

Geezus, some of these low life books.................how do they get accounts, anyway? From their relatives?
There are enough quality houses around to be found.

bigboydan · 10-18-07, 10:48 PM

Originally posted by BAUS

Of course not. I am a slut.

BAUS

ROTFLMAO

At least it pays well though.

BAUS · 10-18-07, 11:21 PM

Not as well as it used to BBD. My whorehouse isn't as busy as it used to be.

BAUS

bigboydan · 10-19-07, 08:55 PM

Originally posted by BAUS

Not as well as it used to BBD. My whorehouse isn't as busy as it used to be.

BAUS

That might be true Baus, but I'm sure it's turning a nice profit still.