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    Sobob99
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    Site calling it a line error, how do you know what correct line should have been?

    I was live betting on NHL last week on Thursday, and won the bets. Now on Monday, I get notified that my bets were an "obvious" line error, and they are being voided. I'd assume if it was "obvious", it would not take this long to void them. Nevertheless, I was watching the game, and looking at lines across various sites, and I'm very sure these were not line errors. I'm not dumb enough to put money down on a line error. Is there some neutral source that I can check to see what the actual lines should have been at a certain point in a game?

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    Iím not sure for live betting, that could be tough especially with nhl.

    Should prob be able to get a rough idea if you know the scores and times in game when you made bet along w closing line.

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    I do know the score. The score was the same throughout all my bets.

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    I guess my question is that is there any 3rd party source or neutral party to find out what the average line was at a certain point in a match?

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    Time in Game would be crucial and closing line as well. Iíve never really live bet nhl but assuming it just a formula used. One the score sites always show teams % chance of winning during the game, id assume the line line would be close to following that formula?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sobob99 View Post
    I guess my question is that is there any 3rd party source or neutral party to find out what the average line was at a certain point in a match?
    Yea Iím not really sure about that far as live betting goes.

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    All my wagers have time stamps, so I'm sure I could backtrack and figure out time in game.

    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    Time in Game would be crucial and closing line as well. I’ve never really live bet nhl but assuming it just a formula used. One the score sites always show teams % chance of winning during the game, id assume the line line would be close to following that formula?

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    Does SBR have a feature that will do this?

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    bad thing is if u lost the bet they of course would not refund the bet because of line error
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    if you don't mind me asking, what book?

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    Private book through an agent.

    Quote Originally Posted by shocka1212 View Post
    if you don't mind me asking, what book?

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    That's exactly my point. Had it been an "obvious" line error, it would have immediately been cancelled, or voided the same day. but 5 days later? that's a joke. I want to try to prove from my end it was a legitimate line

    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513 View Post
    bad thing is if u lost the bet they of course would not refund the bet because of line error

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sobob99 View Post
    That's exactly my point. Had it been an "obvious" line error, it would have immediately been cancelled, or voided the same day. but 5 days later? that's a joke. I want to try to prove from my end it was a legitimate line
    They never do that, reason gotta be careful about betting bad lines cause you just letting them take a shot at you. Not saying you were, it just sucks cause they do pretty much what they want then label you a shot taker when you complain. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sobob99 View Post
    Private book through an agent.
    time to take your action elsewhere.

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    What were the bets...

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    Check the lines for bet365 on sbrodds, they print live odds.

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    Can you tell me how to look up archived live odds?

    Quote Originally Posted by byronbb View Post
    Check the lines for bet365 on sbrodds, they print live odds.

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    use classic version and click on the odds. You can just change date on the page.


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    This is EXACTLY what I was looking for. You are a life saver!

    Quote Originally Posted by byronbb View Post
    use classic version and click on the odds. You can just change date on the page.



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    Yesterday I took Grizzlies ML @+500 because it was a bad line but hey I got paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sobob99 View Post
    This is EXACTLY what I was looking for. You are a life saver!
    Ignore SBR's odds for Bet365. All the historical lines for Bet365 are wrong and have been for at least 10 Weeks. Intertops lines have also been 'erratic' for several weeks and SportsInteractive lines crashed within the last 2 weeks. SBR have been told about the issues but they haven't resolved them. By all means use lines from another book such as Pinnacle or 5Dimes.

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    if u bet a bad line u deserved to get banned, thank your lucky stars

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    If you make a mistake at most books and bet the wrong team or incude an extra 0 in the wager amount, too fukkin bad


    If they make a line mistake, oops sorry about that. CANCELED (usually after the outcome and you win)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonegambler23 View Post
    if u bet a bad line u deserved to get banned, thank your lucky stars
    clown show
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    Five days later is a bit out of line without a very good explanation.

    At very least it should be a regrade at correct odds if it happens after the result is known.
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    Can we see what the bets were that you made?

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    Ah the good ol' bad line excuse

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonegambler23 View Post
    if u bet a bad line u deserved to get banned, thank your lucky stars



    But think about this

    It's not the customer's job keep the lines straight.

    Players just bet what is offered to them.

    Do you know what most stores do when they post the wrong price/sticker on something?

    They sell it to you for that lesser price because it was THEIR mistake.

    If you and I make wager, and I give you +10 points, but the line was actually +7, and you win, do you want to hear me giving you excuses if you win???

    I've always said this and will always stand by it.

    When you submit a wager and the system accepts it, that is the equivelant of a handshake between two bettors in person.

    You don't go back on that... Period
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    That's ROUGH IMO.....esp if you were hedging .......its your algorithm, not mine-- Not only that-you don't have time to know if it is bad or not----Unless its a TOP Book and it was REALLLLLY bad Id be moving sites....

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    With live 100%.......I am man enough to admit when humans are involved in inputting #'s, mistakes can happen.....ive seen MMA lines posted at +1100 when they are obviously +110 at every other site.....that's an error that with time, can be corrected with no harm done......LIVE is a different animal......
    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    But think about this

    It's not the customer's job keep the lines straight.

    Players just bet what is offered to them.

    Do you know what most stores do when they post the wrong price/sticker on something?

    They sell it to you for that lesser price because it was THEIR mistake.

    If you and I make wager, and I give you +10 points, but the line was actually +7, and you win, do you want to hear me giving you excuses if you win???

    I've always said this and will always stand by it.

    When you submit a wager and the system accepts it, that is the equivelant of a handshake between two bettors in person.

    You don't go back on that... Period

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    annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd GONE.....later agent LOL...
    Quote Originally Posted by Sobob99 View Post
    Private book through an agent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    But think about this

    It's not the customer's job keep the lines straight.

    Players just bet what is offered to them.

    Do you know what most stores do when they post the wrong price/sticker on something?

    They sell it to you for that lesser price because it was THEIR mistake.

    If you and I make wager, and I give you +10 points, but the line was actually +7, and you win, do you want to hear me giving you excuses if you win???

    I've always said this and will always stand by it.

    When you submit a wager and the system accepts it, that is the equivelant of a handshake between two bettors in person.

    You don't go back on that... Period
    https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...ck-Friday-Deal

    looks like they wont be honouring it.. sometimes they do, sometimes not. but the customers wont be banned from the shop!

    I think they should be allowed to change a price to fair market price, but to ban you or call you a shot taker is unfair.
    however many times you do it.
    where i draw the line is past posting, no excuses for that.

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    Hello all, I would like to ask for an advice. Yesterday I have placed a bet on Chinese basketball league. Sichuan - Guangdong I took Guangdong ML for +235. I have checked at oddsportal and around 10 bookies had the same or very similar odds. Guangdong has won, but now i see my bet has been voided...

    here is the quot from their rules about voiding bets. "The company waves all responsibility on the erroneous coefficient indicated in the program as a result of mistakes made by its staff or due to software error, which does not correspond to the coefficients available on the bookmakersí market for such position."

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    Quote Originally Posted by willkur23 View Post
    Hello all, I would like to ask for an advice. Yesterday I have placed a bet on Chinese basketball league. Sichuan - Guangdong I took Guangdong ML for +235. I have checked at oddsportal and around 10 bookies had the same or very similar odds. Guangdong has won, but now i see my bet has been voided...

    here is the quot from their rules about voiding bets. "The company waves all responsibility on the erroneous coefficient indicated in the program as a result of mistakes made by its staff or due to software error, which does not correspond to the coefficients available on the bookmakers’ market for such position."



    Have you inquired with them as to why it has been voided?

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    Oh nevermind you added more to your post

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