[unusialsusp5]

So it only does not matter if you win 100% of your bets.

there are quite a few that do not care about paying double juice as long as they can get their money (if win) right then and there without the offshore hassle and stall tactics. send verification, take a selfie with you holding your license in color, forget it if you moved and changed phone numbers, trying to figure out bitcoin, being accused of being a steam bettor, canadian checks that don't clear for weeks, accused of having a duplicate account, betting on wrong device, not betting often enough, not betting enough period, dealing with bonuses and absurd rollover requirements, paying fees to withdraw and deposit, being lied to by customer service reps. anything i left out. yet, despite all this it is still better than playing .20 cent lines vs. .10 lines or is it.

[LT Profits]

there are quite a few that do not care about paying double juice as long as they can get their money (if win) right then and there without the offshore hassle and stall tactics. send verification, take a selfie with you holding your license in color, forget it if you moved and changed phone numbers, trying to figure out bitcoin, being accused of being a steam bettor, canadian checks that don't clear for weeks, accused of having a duplicate account, betting on wrong device, not betting often enough, not betting enough period, dealing with bonuses and absurd rollover requirements, paying fees to withdraw and deposit, being lied to by customer service reps. anything i left out. yet, despite all this it is still better than playing .20 cent lines vs. .10 lines or is it.

No hassle at all with the most reliable offshores so getting money in and out not even a consideration. Bitcoin saved the world!

[unusialsusp5]

No hassle at all with the most reliable offshores so getting money in and out not even a consideration. Bitcoin saved the world!

i'm sure that's 100% correct if you have the knowledge and expertise. bitcoin could eventually fail. always the chance (unlikely) you could get limited or tossed for winning or cashing out too often. if the states weren't so greedy and went to -105 and online wagering it would be the end of offshore.

[KVB]

-105 -113 -120 matter only if you lose

So it only does not matter if you win 100% of your bets.

No, winners pay the vigorish.

Losers just lose their bets.

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...o-you-pay.html

[LT Profits]

No, winners pay the vigorish.

Losers just lose their bets.

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...o-you-pay.html

Not true, there is no right answer, it is a paradoxal numbers game.

[jjgold]

Most legal books you have to go in person to deposit and withdraw

When I lived in Vegas for 2 years I found it easier to play offshore

[KVB]

Not true, there is no right answer, it is a paradoxal numbers game.

Nonsense.

Once you realize you aren't putting "Extra" risk on your bet for commissions and that what you risk is what you risk and nothing more or less, then the way you manage money is different in a way that will make a difference.

Taking the viewpoint from the book's perspective will aid in understanding how vigorish is applied in general.

When it comes to gambling and this topic, there is a right and a wrong way to approach it.

Many people understand how to bet, but few bettors understand how to gamble.

There is a difference, but the more it becomes "semantics" the more assured that the winners stay on their side of the fence...the winning side.


Getting this wrong will increase your costs in vig. You should know this LT, you change your breakeven daily.

[LT Profits]

Nonsense.

Once you realize you aren't putting "Extra" risk on your bet for commissions and that what you risk is what you risk and nothing more or less, then the way you manage money is different in a way that will make a difference.

Taking the viewpoint from the book's perspective will aid in understanding how vigorish is applied in general.

When it comes to gambling and this topic, there is a right and a wrong way to approach it.

Many people understand how to bet, but few bettors understand how to gamble.

There is a difference, but the more it becomes "semantics" the more assured that the winners stay on their side of the fence...the winning side.


Getting this wrong will increase your costs in vig. You should know this LT, you change your breakeven daily.

You could just as easily say the guy losing the 110 should have only risked 100 since the no-vig line is +100. Again, this has been debated for years and there is no right answer, it is nothing but math "fun".

[TheSchafe]

Only advantage is cash in hand immediately. Which honestly with BitCoin you usually get your withdrawal the next business day anyway.

[LT Profits]

Only advantage is cash in hand immediately. Which honestly with BitCoin you usually get your withdrawal the next business day anyway.

Same day at Heritage, and if you have Bitpay card, can withdraw in cash as soon as it hits.

[jjgold]

If you play at 5 Dimes I would think the retain rate will be about 75% when the player compares it to his legal usa book

[mcaulay777]

For me Sports Betting across the country soon is 20 to 30 years to late..To much information and lousy sports now to win money.The Vig is going to be to high.Too many people are going to lose money.The limits are going to be very low will see how long Willian hill will let people win if there are some good players.I cant wait for this season in Delaware and Jersey when they have philly and the under and are wining until the last play of the game when they do that lateral toss bs and the game on the last play is now La Rams and the over!

[Sam Odom]

Jjgold will be the 1st employee laid off

[jjgold]

For me Sports Betting across the country soon is 20 to 30 years to late..To much information and lousy sports now to win money.The Vig is going to be to high.Too many people are going to lose money.The limits are going to be very low will see how long Willian hill will let people win if there are some good players.I cant wait for this season in Delaware and Jersey when they have philly and the under and are wining until the last play of the game when they do that lateral toss bs and the game on the last play is now La Rams and the over!

game over

5 Dimes
Bookmaker
Heritage
Betonline

[dark star]

may move to Hoboken, on the Hudson

Not sure you can afford it now Sammy

[big joe 1212]

I don't see where Resorts/Draftkings will put their sportsbook. I don't see them being up and running B&M style for a while. They have that little room where they show people their online and fantasy sports site but it would be way too small to handle any sports betting or anything else. Resorts is tiny as it is.

Maybe they can build it on the second floor? Maybe in the former Boogie Nights club?

[SnakesPicks]

William Hill is all over this and are gonna benefit big time. They got a proven record, having taken over a shit ton of the small books in Vegas already and partnering and preparing in NJ to do the same. Usually, I hate William Hill lines. Hope some independent books sprout up and stay.

[Al Masters]

-105 -113 -120 matter only if you lose

For yourself and family stop gambling immediately.

You are a bookmakers dream and harmful to yourself
if you actually believe what you posted.

This is basic stuff.. if you can’t properly grasp
the damage of juice, leave the game as quickly as you can.

Looks like all those jjgold posts of juice having no
meaning unless you lose as set up shop in your mind.

If your -110 at Heritage is -150 at bet365 are
YOU going to pull the trigger?

Because of course there is no difference unless you lose.

Once you have decided to make that bet at -150 you’re
dead Win or lose.

but I understand that you won’t understand that above example
as you see it as a win not betting into a suckers line
which in the end will kill you fast in this game.

[jjgold]

atlantic city doesn’t need five sports books , It’s not a destination like Las Vegas

Las Vegas is set up for a worldwide appeal especially with that airport centrally located

[Crusherrr]

Maybe they can build it on the second floor? Maybe in the former Boogie Nights club?

True. I didn't even think of that. That's most likely where it will be.

[TheSchafe]

Same day at Heritage, and if you have Bitpay card, can withdraw in cash as soon as it hits.

My apologies LT, I should have specified: The withdrawal to my coinbase wallet is same day, I was just talking about the ACH from the wallet to my bank account was the next business day.

[snider]

more like a couple hours..........nitrogen is lightning

[jjgold]

Offshore will always be more convenient

Vegas I think Stations you can deposit from home but takes 2 days from bank account

Almost all have to go to book to cash out and load

No computer betting APP only in Vegas

Hopefully NJ will have web betting because way better than cluttered app betting

[Optional]

Offshore will always be more convenient

Vegas I think Stations you can deposit from home but takes 2 days from bank account

Almost all have to go to book to cash out and load

No computer betting APP only in Vegas

Hopefully NJ will have web betting because way better than cluttered app betting

Down under all the books offer pre-paid debit cards that you can instantly transfer winnings to and withdraw at an ATM.

That's what WillHill will offer everywhere. Withdraw options is not going to be a down side for legal gambling. Privacy and tax issues are the big ones that will keep people offshore IMHO.

Americans will freak when confronted with UK style KYC.

[jjgold]

There is no KYC in Vegas other than drivers license

There will be none in NJ either

Laws set up in USA if your in that state that day you can wager on APP....its all geo location based non residences based

[Optional]

There is no KYC in Vegas other than drivers license

There will be none in NJ either

Laws set up in USA if your in that state that day you can wager on APP....its all geo location based non residences based

I think they will push for it for online.

[jjgold]

When I lived in NJ and had online casino accounts from Borgata or any other legal place nothing

They run your SS# and that is it

It took under 3 minutes and funded with credit card and as long as your in NJ when you can play on your account

Now in PA and can log in but when I get to game and try to play get warning message out of state and you can be prosecuted for illegal gambling and of course you cannot play

All geo

[Optional]

When I lived in NJ and had online casino accounts from Borgata or any other legal place nothing

They run your SS# and that is it

It took under 3 minutes and funded with credit card and as long as your in NJ when you can play on your account

Now in PA and can log in but when I get to game and try to play get warning message out of state and you can be prosecuted for illegal gambling and of course you cannot play

All geo

Yeah it's the same for me in Australia. As I am on the electoral roll and can be found other electronic ways by ID Verify agencies. But if I had recently moved and not changed voter info, it would not work that way. And then I'd be asked for ID and selfies and all sorts of stuff. And if there was ever any question about me money laundering or betting fixed matches they could ask me for bank statements, pay slips, proof of income and legally tie my money up indefinitely if I didn't comply.

[Sam Odom]

Exchange Australia with USA








https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...l#post27649743

[jjgold]

Sammy comparing Aus gaming to USA is like comparing a child to an 50 year old adult
It is that different

USA 100 years away from Aus gaming rules

Sammy let the pros like myself weigh in on this stuff

[KVB]

There is no KYC in Vegas other than drivers license

There will be none in NJ either

Laws set up in USA if your in that state that day you can wager on APP....its all geo location based non residences based

Try using an app in Laughlin at the Harrah's sportsbook, down on the end of the strip.

Depending on where you stand, it might think you are in Arizona, even though you're at the book.



As far as KYC, they will likely force you to surrender all info just to be able to use the app. Like most websites you'll have to create an account and you won't be able to do that without verification.

Will Hill operates this way in Nevada. You want to wager outside hours, with an app, or at little kiosk, then they will know you.

[jjgold]

all you need is ID

No utility bills because books can care less nothing works unless your in a legal area

Impossible to get around

[KVB]

all you need is ID

No utility bills because books can care less nothing works unless your in a legal area

Impossible to get around

Agreed, they want ID and address. ID will likely have your address but you're right, I don't think Will Hill wanted utility bills.

This isn't fukkin Disneyland...

[Junkyard Dog]

borgata taking bets tomorrow..letsgooo

[USCPHILLYGUY]

borgata taking bets tomorrow..letsgooo

Confirmed?