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    Pinnacle no longer available to Australians

    Just received the following email, it was good while it lasted boys.

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    Oh lordie

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    OUCH, sorry to my aussie cousins. Panama has nice weather

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    This co´ncides strangely enough with Asianconnect closing all PinnacleSports accounts from British customers.

    I hope they leave other countries alone...

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    Just got my email... sad day

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    Sorry to hear that...brokers will come out ahead

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    It's been expected for a while after anti-gambling politicians gained some power last year or so.

    And once Australia has every internet user locked into the China style National Broadband Network they are forcing everyone onto, we wont even get emails from books. They will all be just blocked.

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    What a bad development all over the world. 6 years ago, in most countries it was not necessary to have an agent or broker to bet on Pinnacle, SBO and IBC.

    I will never understand why it is legally and ethically correct to bet on commodities, cat-bonds and water but when it comes to sports betting the legal situation becomes more and more restrictive in most countries.

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    Is pin bet88 full clone or just partial ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    It's been expected for a while after anti-gambling politicians gained some power last year or so.

    And once Australia has every internet user locked into the China style National Broadband Network they are forcing everyone onto, we wont even get emails from books. They will all be just blocked.
    Why do people not fight this???

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    Is pin bet88 full clone or just partial ?
    I think so

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluehorseshoe View Post

    Why do people not fight this???
    I don't think the general public yet realizes how much control the govt are taking over our communication medium here. The roll out is not complete yet so the govt hasn't tried to use it for blocking or talked about blocking in a long time. Once it's complete they will start and people will wake up (too late)

    As far as gambling licensing. Most people are pretty happy with how it works here and you would be just wasting time trying to argue Pinnacle should be allowed to operate without one.

    Hopefully they will eventually get one. Would put a cat amongst the pigeons for the local books. I bet they already wish the govt would just leave Pinny alone so they dont try to get a local license.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    I think so

    I don't think the general public yet realizes how much control the govt are taking over our communication medium here. The roll out is not complete yet so the govt hasn't tried to use it for blocking or talked about blocking in a long time. Once it's complete they will start and people will wake up (too late)

    As far as gambling licensing. Most people are pretty happy with how it works here and you would be just wasting time trying to argue Pinnacle should be allowed to operate without one.

    Hopefully they will eventually get one. Would put a cat amongst the pigeons for the local books. I bet they already wish the govt would just leave Pinny alone so they dont try to get a local license.
    I think part of it also is that the majority of Aussies who gamble - and obviously there's a lot of us - wouldn't even contemplate betting overseas when you have a TAB on every corner and too many Aussie books as it is to choose from. So to the casual bettor they'd support banning offshore books who don't pay tax or regulatory fees here because they wouldn't care about getting better lines or props elsewhere. If anything was going to stop this mess I reckon it would've happened when they not only banned live betting here but then also live betting with overseas books. There was such a relatively little fuss made then that the government was essentially given free rein on how to deal with these supposed intruders to the market.

    Oh well... back to being ripped off.

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    Yeah exactly Shari. Even the majority of gamblers support the licensing system here.

    Would be best for everyone if they just let it be as it is now. Pinny doesn't hurt the locals by competing here and the locals dont want many of the sharps that want Pinny as well.

    I got asked to use a different bank when I requested my withdraw btw. One of the big 4 I usually used in the past. So maybe that is a clue why now too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluehorseshoe View Post
    Why do people not fight this???
    punters as a group are a) very apathetic and b) have next to zero political clout

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    Is pin bet88 full clone or just partial ?
    100% same markets, it's not even a clone but simply the agent site from Pinnaclesports. Limits are only roughly 35% though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shari91 View Post
    Just got my email... sad day
    Try Fairlay shar bear. True Pinny odds. Like a replica.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    Try Fairlay shar bear. True Pinny odds. Like a replica.
    Except their market maker appears to have ditched them. Nothing avail. at Fairlay for last 24 hours.

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    well, that blows

    australia players were banned from 888poker and pokerstars too

    its a disgrace if u ask me

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    Australia wants to keep money in the country at legal shops

    good for them

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    When I decide to move any country directly Betfair or Pinny restrict that country.
    What a bad chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    Try Fairlay shar bear. True Pinny odds. Like a replica.
    nothing can replace Pinny or Betfair

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Australia wants to keep money in the country at legal shops

    good for them
    except that the "legal shops" won't to take our bets!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    except that the "legal shops" won't to take our bets!
    Yeah unfortunately for someone like you this just adds to a never-ending shit show as far as the books go here. For me... yes it's horrible but other than one book, no one else cares to limit me so I can just bet what I want. At a horrific price, mind you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barrakuda View Post
    Except their market maker appears to have ditched them. Nothing avail. at Fairlay for last 24 hours.
    I just noticed that. Haven't wagered since Saturday night. This doesn't look good.

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    Pinnacle was leave from all the major European, American and Asia, how are they still in business.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruifgalmeida View Post
    Pinnacle was leave from all the major European, American and Asia, how are they still in business.?
    still accessible via agents

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    still accessible via agents
    Why via agents ? maybe they are one of famous agents

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    I just noticed that. Haven't wagered since Saturday night. This doesn't look good.
    From what I heard from one of the pinny market maker bots was He was getting hit with ddos attack and was hoping to be back up very soon....within 24 hours....

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    Cancelling pending wagers is just wrong. There could be a lot of equity in those wagers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluehorseshoe View Post
    Why do people not fight this???
    Get online poker back in the US and fight it.

    Because the only countries that can fight anything or the ones that are on the same page Poland/Korea/Japan/Hungary

    All these mut countries would never agree on anything in protests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wohlford View Post
    Cancelling pending wagers is just wrong. There could be a lot of equity in those wagers.
    It might be legally unavoidable, but even then they really should buy out the bet equity based on current prices.

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