Craps Is Beatable

**smoke a bowl** · 05-22-14, 01:57 PM

I deserve to be shot for reading this.

**Sawyer** · 05-28-14, 02:53 AM

Craps is beatable. If you can place a bet (or increase your stake) on DON'T PASS LINE after point is established, you would gain a very good edge. Make sure you don't get caught of course. Well, if stickman catches you, you can say you don't know rules very well, say sorry etc, lol.

In order to succeed in craps, you have to HANDICAP the shooters. I was at Cyprus last weekend, Cratos Premium, had very good time in craps table and made some profit also.

There was 2 guys, keep betting on PASS LINE. They were lookin' so frustrated. One of them said, let's bet our taxi money. I jumped in and bet on DON'T PASS. They went 1-5, cold as ice. I went 5-1. The law of attraction is a fact. Not only in life but also in gambling. Then a super self-confident guy came in. He was wearing a blazer jacket, a luxurious shirt and his golden watch was probably worht of 10k or more. He was looking super confident, he had a devilish smile on his face. I stopped betting after he took the dice. He rolled 7 in his 1st roll, 11 in second, made a 2-0 start since he was betting pass line. He nailed the point and won in his 3rd shoot. He bombed the table, placing huge stakes. He played some and then his lady showed up. She was a super sexy blonde with a super mini skirt. They played 2-3 more turns then left the table, probably headed to their room, lol.

Then those 2 loser guys took the dice again and they're SEVENED OUT again. While they were losing, I was winning..

Handicap the Shooters. If the shooter is looking lucky, sharp, self-confident then you can consider PASS LINE bet.
If the shooter looks not-self-confident, not hopeful, loser, shaky, then consider DON'T PASS LINE bet.

Craps is one of the best games in casino. Bet Don't Pass Line bet with odds. Don't bet sucker bets like the field.

**akphidelt** · 05-28-14, 03:02 AM

Originally posted by Sawyer

Craps is beatable. If you can place a bet (or increase your stake) on DON'T PASS LINE after point is established, you would gain a very good edge. Make sure you don't get caught of course. Well, if stickman catches you, you can say you don't know rules very well, say sorry etc, lol.

In order to succeed in craps, you have to HANDICAP the shooters. I was at Cyprus last weekend, Cratos Premium, had very good time in craps table and made some profit also.

There was 2 guys, keep betting on PASS LINE. They were lookin' so frustrated. One of them said, let's bet our taxi money. I jumped in and bet on DON'T PASS. They went 1-5, cold as ice. I went 5-1. The law of attraction is a fact. Not only in life but also in gambling. Then a super self-confident guy came in. He was wearing a blazer jacket, a luxurious shirt and his golden watch was probably worht of 10k or more. He was looking super confident, he had a devilish smile on his face. I stopped betting after he took the dice. He rolled 7 in his 1st roll, 11 in second, made a 2-0 start since he was betting pass line. He nailed the point and won in his 3rd shoot. He bombed the table, placing huge stakes. He played some and then his lady showed up. She was a super sexy blonde with a super mini skirt. They played 2-3 more turns then left the table, probably headed to their room, lol.

Then those 2 loser guys took the dice again and they're SEVENED OUT again. While they were losing, I was winning..

Handicap the Shooters. If the shooter is looking lucky, sharp, self-confident then you can consider PASS LINE bet.
If the shooter looks not-self-confident, not hopeful, loser, shaky, then consider DON'T PASS LINE bet.

And finally, never roll any dice. Give the dice to other shooters. Spot the losers and fade them.

No offense but this is one of the dumbest posts I've read. Absolutely none of this coincides with basic mathematics. "Confident well dressed" people do not have any advantage against math.

**Sawyer** · 05-28-14, 04:43 AM

It's not about being well dressed. It's all about energy. There's well dressed high roller losers too. Some people are neatural born losers. If you can feel it, you may have a chance to make money.You may not be understanding it but it's not your fault. It's not for everyone.

Still, you should not play these games with a great expectation to make money. If you're breakeven after hours, or made some profit, you must be happy, just pack your winings and go to your room.

Akphidelt, did you ever saw a Rhythm Roller? That's what I'm talking about. Just spot a RR and ride his streak. The hardest part of course, is to spot the RR.

**floridagolfer** · 05-28-14, 05:23 AM

There's never been a person in history, there isn't a person in history, there never will be a person who is able to knowingly influence the rolls of dice at a craps table. End of story, end of "positive energy" angle. Craps, as much as virtually all casino games, is much about timing — when to play for higher stakes, when to take money off the table and when to walk away.

**jjgold** · 05-28-14, 05:26 AM

The dice control docs were true, definitely if you throw dice a certain way you have edges

**Sawyer** · 05-28-14, 07:03 AM

Originally posted by floridagolfer

There's never been a person in history, there isn't a person in history, there never will be a person who is able to knowingly influence the rolls of dice at a craps table. End of story, end of "positive energy" angle. Craps, as much as virtually all casino games, is much about timing — when to play for higher stakes, when to take money off the table and when to walk away.

You don't know about Rhythm Rollers I guess, lol. Like JJ said, if you can throw the dice in a certain way, you can have an edge. In addition, You can make money even without rolling a dice. If the shooter is skilled, you can make money by riding his streak. Shooter bets pass line? Then you bet pass line too.

**jjgold** · 05-28-14, 07:55 AM

Yes

I am going to take a course on this and gain an edge

**darkhat** · 05-28-14, 08:23 AM

the dominator is a master at dice manipulation

is he allowed in any casinos??!!

**jjgold** · 05-28-14, 09:10 AM

The dominator is band at most casinos which reinforces there is such a thing as dice control and craps is beatable.

**BarstoolProphet** · 06-16-14, 08:03 PM

ppl think they can control the dice?

**robert_wrath** · 06-16-14, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by BarstoolProphet

ppl think they can control the dice?

Much to learn dear Watson.

**sweethook** · 06-16-14, 11:06 PM

the game is math , go with it

**jjgold** · 06-17-14, 04:31 AM

I need to get some dice and shotw you guys the tricks

**darkhat** · 06-17-14, 07:36 AM

it takes years of intensive study and practice, but the dom mastered dice control

there was a time he was making so much money at craps he had to literally hire someone to help him spend it

**jjgold** · 06-17-14, 08:02 AM

Arm has to be at a Certain angle when tossing dice

Every toss has to be the same

**Sam Odom** · 06-17-14, 08:09 AM

Please move to 'Fantasy Forum' ...

**Sam Odom** · 06-29-14, 01:24 PM

JJ , check this out... $5K profit per DAY

**tony_come** · 06-29-14, 01:45 PM

Thanks for the video sammmy

I can win now!

**Sam Odom** · 06-29-14, 01:46 PM

The guy wouldn't lie to us...

**TheCentaur** · 06-29-14, 03:29 PM

This guy Sawyer is an unreal hamburger

Can't believe this thread is at 5 pages

And I just bumped it

**ChiLLx** · 06-29-14, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by Sawyer

Craps is beatable. If you can place a bet (or increase your stake) on DON'T PASS LINE after point is established, you would gain a very good edge. Make sure you don't get caught of course. Well, if stickman catches you, you can say you don't know rules very well, say sorry etc, lol.

In order to succeed in craps, you have to HANDICAP the shooters. I was at Cyprus last weekend, Cratos Premium, had very good time in craps table and made some profit also.

There was 2 guys, keep betting on PASS LINE. They were lookin' so frustrated. One of them said, let's bet our taxi money. I jumped in and bet on DON'T PASS. They went 1-5, cold as ice. I went 5-1. The law of attraction is a fact. Not only in life but also in gambling. Then a super self-confident guy came in. He was wearing a blazer jacket, a luxurious shirt and his golden watch was probably worht of 10k or more. He was looking super confident, he had a devilish smile on his face. I stopped betting after he took the dice. He rolled 7 in his 1st roll, 11 in second, made a 2-0 start since he was betting pass line. He nailed the point and won in his 3rd shoot. He bombed the table, placing huge stakes. He played some and then his lady showed up. She was a super sexy blonde with a super mini skirt. They played 2-3 more turns then left the table, probably headed to their room, lol.

Then those 2 loser guys took the dice again and they're SEVENED OUT again. While they were losing, I was winning..

Handicap the Shooters. If the shooter is looking lucky, sharp, self-confident then you can consider PASS LINE bet.
If the shooter looks not-self-confident, not hopeful, loser, shaky, then consider DON'T PASS LINE bet.

Craps is one of the best games in casino. Bet Don't Pass Line bet with odds. Don't bet sucker bets like the field.

This is one of the more hilarious posts I've read on this website.

**Want2Win** · 07-11-14, 07:25 AM

Originally posted by darkhat

Dom is a living legend in casinos

i hear as soon as security sees him they kick him out

that video is a documentary they can not lie on it

This past June, I took a seminar from the Dominator at Golden Touch Craps. I have an engineering degree with a minor in physics, so dice influencing has always interested me. The idea behind it makes sense if you know about the 6 degrees of movement that all moving projectiles go through....similar to why a bullet shoots straight from a gun or rifle.

Anyway, I was lucky enough to play with him at Paris casino and he shot lights out. I made all my money back for the cost of the seminar from his roll. He was in a disguise of sorts. He said at the seminar if we see him at the tables just to be cool and that is what I did.

Monday night I saw him at the Bellagio. IMHO his disguise wasn't as good as before. He bought in and within 15 minutes a suit walked over to him and banned him from the Bellagio. I know this because I saw them walk him to the cage to cash out. I also asked someone that knows him and asked her.

Believe it or not, I saw him roll and then I saw him get banned. All the stories are true.

**darkhat** · 07-11-14, 07:57 AM

Originally posted by Want2Win

This past June, I took a seminar from the Dominator at Golden Touch Craps. I have an engineering degree with a minor in physics, so dice influencing has always interested me. The idea behind it makes sense if you know about the 6 degrees of movement that all moving projectiles go through....similar to why a bullet shoots straight from a gun or rifle.

Anyway, I was lucky enough to play with him at Paris casino and he shot lights out. I made all my money back for the cost of the seminar from his roll. He was in a disguise of sorts. He said at the seminar if we see him at the tables just to be cool and that is what I did.

Monday night I saw him at the Bellagio. IMHO his disguise wasn't as good as before. He bought in and within 15 minutes a suit walked over to him and banned him from the Bellagio. I know this because I saw them walk him to the cage to cash out. I also asked someone that knows him and asked her.

Believe it or not, I saw him roll and then I saw him get banned. All the stories are true.

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**inputfour** · 07-20-14, 09:28 AM

Dice setting is not to "control" the dice. It simply allows you more opportunities to hit certain numbers based on the set up. Yes a lot of math but anyone can bet situationally and profit.

**inputfour** · 07-20-14, 09:29 AM

I dont consider someone controlling the dice when a 4,10, hard 8, 5,5, 7 rolls out. Even if you are buying the 4 and 10. 1 hit on each and you are still down on the roll.

**Fishhead** · 07-20-14, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by ChiLLx

This is one of the more hilarious posts I've read on this website.

ya think

**Want2Win** · 07-20-14, 11:09 AM

Why so you guys think it is so funny? People have seen others control the dice and casinos wouldn't ban someone if they thought that person couldn't best them.

**fishtaco02** · 07-20-14, 11:13 AM

So I'm suppose to just sit there and wait till roll number 9 comes around? Except how many times do ppl crap out before they even get to roll #5.

**Want2Win** · 07-20-14, 11:42 AM

I don't understand what you mean by waiting till roll #9.

**jjgold** · 07-20-14, 12:10 PM

Dominator is not allowed in many casinos

It proves dice can be controlled

**darkhat** · 11-05-14, 03:52 PM

reports are circulating that the dom was banned from an iowa casino last week

**BriGuy** · 11-05-14, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

All you do is wait for the roller to win 8 rolls in a row and then bet against him and keep doubling up. In dice they are not huge runs like in roulette where red can come out 20 times in a row. The dice game this will not happen or rarely happen and plus your are already have the odds in your favor betting the 9 consective roll. The only thing is you might be there for log periods of time and need a paper and pencil to keep track. It is a good way to grind like 60 to 80 a day.

I went last night and this happened twice and I then made my don't pass line bet on the nine roll, the first time I won on the first try and the second time on the 3rd try.

I made $200 and left.

What do you mean by winning "8 rolls in row"? Do you mean winning 8 consecutive pass line bets? The odds of that happening for any shooter are about 300 to 1 against, so good luck in seeing one of those every 24 hours or so.

**BriGuy** · 11-05-14, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by kfranz31

At stations casinos they have afire bet which is 6 different pass line bets which has been hit but 8 pass line wins is way too high-- I have different system that works good for me

I have a system too. Once a point is established, then every time the stickman sends the dice out I say a Hail Mary. I call it "The Fredo Corleone Strategy".

Of course, we all know what happened to him.....

**BriGuy** · 11-05-14, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by Sawyer

Craps is beatable. If you can place a bet (or increase your stake) on DON'T PASS LINE after point is established, you would gain a very good edge. Make sure you don't get caught of course. Well, if stickman catches you, you can say you don't know rules very well, say sorry etc, lol.

So if you can figure out a way to cheat and not get caught, you increase your edge. Gee, thanks for the brilliant insight.