Not got the lungs to play long rallies like he use to
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homie1975
SBR Posting Legend
12-24-13
15448
#73
Originally posted by slayer14
Not got the lungs to play long rallies like he use to
he shot his load in 2011 and 2015. took everything out of him. his body reached the mountain top, now it is only going down. when you have not just 1 but two of the greatest years in tennis history and you are doing it against the depth the men's game had those two years, it takes a lot out of you. he left everything on the court.
before anyone says that roger had tremendous years as well winning 3 out of 4 majors, you have to understand that the competition roger did it against in 03 and 04 was way less than it is now and what Joker faced those two years he did it. also, roger is an absolute technician and extremely efficient in his movement around the court. joker is more like a right handed rafa, chasing down every ball and playing extremely physical points. it has taken a major toll.
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DavidGoliath5003
SBR MVP
03-20-18
4100
#74
Joker has been dealing with an elbow injury for the past 18 months... how is he done? Has nothing to do with Movement. Guy wasnt bad today, he played probably the second best clay guy on tour. Hes progressing
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SCI
SBR Sharp
12-09-05
423
#75
Originally posted by DavidGoliath5003
Joker has been dealing with an elbow injury for the past 18 months... how is he done? Has nothing to do with Movement. Guy wasnt bad today, he played probably the second best clay guy on tour. Hes progressing
Yeah. Not a bad loss at all today.
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388189
#76
He is done
Elbows for over about coming back
Damaged goods
He needs to quit be is embarrassing himself now
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europe_baller
SBR Wise Guy
11-01-12
859
#77
Originally posted by jjgold
He is done
Elbows for over about coming back
Damaged goods
He needs to quit be is embarrassing himself now
Says who?? Even top 10 player on the world is amazing accomplishment.. What is there to be embarrassed of? People keep writing dumb stuff...
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Grivas_Digeni
SBR Hall of Famer
05-08-15
5307
#78
Originally posted by jjgold
He is done
Elbows for over about coming back
Damaged goods
He needs to quit be is embarrassing himself now
You need to stop embarrassing yourself. Last I checked Monte-Carlo isn't a major.
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europe_baller
SBR Wise Guy
11-01-12
859
#79
Originally posted by DavidGoliath5003
Joker has been dealing with an elbow injury for the past 18 months... how is he done? Has nothing to do with Movement. Guy wasnt bad today, he played probably the second best clay guy on tour. Hes progressing
Exactly what I said..After Rafa might be best clay guy.. and in decent form too..
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jtoler
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
12-17-13
30967
#80
Thiem can get mental. He was up 5-2 and lost the 1st set 6-7. Was up 5-4 and 40-15 also, had many chances, I had him 2-0 in parlay.
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homie1975
SBR Posting Legend
12-24-13
15448
#81
Originally posted by SCI
Yeah. Not a bad loss at all today.
ummmm he should have been more competitive at least in sets two and three.
joker has a french title. thiem has never even made a final. djokovic should have played him tougher on clay
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DavidGoliath5003
SBR MVP
03-20-18
4100
#82
As long as hes injury free and keeps getting these tournaments under his belt i think he may win the US open
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sunshineSpecial
SBR Sharp
03-09-17
379
#83
It's incredible how athletes fade in individual sports. You see it more perhaps in boxing/mma, but tennis is pretty tragic too. Novak is finished, doesn't have the mental fortitude to come back.
Lost against Edmund on clay court another bad loss
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388189
#86
He is finished
Dummies bet him
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BennyBigNuts
SBR Hall of Famer
04-16-12
8700
#87
Originally posted by slayer14
Lost against Edmund on clay court another bad loss
Wasn't a bad loss at all for a guy who's played 10 matches in 5 months.
Blew a big chance in the 3rd 2-2 at 0-40 to break Edmund and really should have won the match right there and couldn't convert, but overall he's definitely showing signs and battled hard.
Edmund played out of his mind as well.
Any educated tennis fan can see he's getting healthier and will probably make a run somewhere before the year is over.
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Honeybadger44
SBR MVP
01-03-14
1675
#88
Originally posted by BennyBigNuts
Wasn't a bad loss at all for a guy who's played 10 matches in 5 months.
Blew a big chance in the 3rd 2-2 at 0-40 to break Edmund and really should have won the match right there and couldn't convert, but overall he's definitely showing signs and battled hard.
Edmund played out of his mind as well. Any educated tennis fan can see he's getting healthier and will probably make a run somewhere before the year is over.
Spot on.
He was not as sharp as vs Nishikori, but it was still a solid performance and a clear sign that he's on his way back. And for some reason, people underestimate Edmund on clay. It actually could be his best surface, considering amount of top spin that he can put on the forehand when give time to get a proper swing on that side. Think he was averaging slightly better then 3000 rpm yesterday. Rafa usually has it at 3200.
To be an educated tennis fan, you gotta watch some tennis first. I believe that many here give assesments, just based on the final score.
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moojoo
SBR Wise Guy
09-02-16
938
#89
Best thing for Novak would be if he could play some lover level tournaments,to get match routine and get some confindence boost by winning them.
I think he might be in top form by Aussie open,best chance to take that GS.
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388189
#90
Do you guys realize Nadal, Fed, Del Potro even Wawrinka all rose to the top pretty quickly off layoffs and injury??
NONE got beat early rounds week after week like Joker
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Honeybadger44
SBR MVP
01-03-14
1675
#91
Originally posted by jjgold
Do you guys realize Nadal, Fed, Del Potro even Wawrinka all rose to the top pretty quickly off layoffs and injury??
NONE got beat early rounds week after week like Joker
What does that have to do with properly gauging Novak's current form? I was just saying that I don't agree with the thinking of some that he is in poor form atm. He was in Indian Wells and Miami. Actually, he was awfull there. Played much better since clay court season started. Monte Carlo loss vs Thiem was no tragedy. He lost to Klizan in Barcelona, but everyone know that Klizan is one of those crazy bastards that can beat anybody on a good day and loss to everybody on a bad one. After beating Novak, he came the closest to take a set from Nadal on clay, in last 30 matches or so...
And now he lost to Edmund. Most of guys here treated that as a bad loss. And that same Edmund just swept Goffin off the court in 70 minutes and got himself a QF.
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moojoo
SBR Wise Guy
09-02-16
938
#92
Originally posted by jjgold
Do you guys realize Nadal, Fed, Del Potro even Wawrinka all rose to the top pretty quickly off layoffs and injury??
NONE got beat early rounds week after week like Joker
Because Djokovic hurry up to play,and he fkd up elbow.
Nadal was injured very long time,Federer take time to recover too,Andy too.
Check Wawrinka results he did same as Novak and he decide its better to recover.
Maybe Novak is under pressure ffom his sponsors and he must play as much tournaments,even tho injured...
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388189
#93
Joker cannot compete with young talent now, it is much stronger than before he left
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nuxx??
SBR Sharp
06-06-17
473
#94
You're just repeating yourself. Do you even watch tennis jjgold, or just semis+ of Grandslams?
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388189
#95
Hey is terrible he loses every single tournament easy and early
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europe_baller
SBR Wise Guy
11-01-12
859
#96
Originally posted by jjgold
Do you guys realize Nadal, Fed, Del Potro even Wawrinka all rose to the top pretty quickly off layoffs and injury??
NONE got beat early rounds week after week like Joker
Go back and see how many bad losses Nadal had before coming back to his level..quite a few..roger is the only one that came back after 6 months and won AO....
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DavidGoliath5003
SBR MVP
03-20-18
4100
#97
Originally posted by europe_baller
Go back and see how many bad losses Nadal had before coming back to his level..quite a few..roger is the only one that came back after 6 months and won AO....
This is False... Roger was bad back in 2012-2013... people were calling for him to retire... losing to guys like Stakhovsky in the 1st round at wimbeldon... it Took Roger changing his racket snd alot of time/rhythm to get it going again
I had Edmund to win Novak this match, Novak needs more power
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europe_baller
SBR Wise Guy
11-01-12
859
#99
Originally posted by DavidGoliath5003
This is False... Roger was bad back in 2012-2013... people were calling for him to retire... losing to guys like Stakhovsky in the 1st round at wimbeldon... it Took Roger changing his racket snd alot of time/rhythm to get it going again
I agree I meant this second time around just before he won AO.. but yeah all of them needed couple of months at least to be consistent..
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homie1975
SBR Posting Legend
12-24-13
15448
#100
french open starts monday.
we all know who the 1 seed is. the 28 seed? mr. djokovic
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sunshineSpecial
SBR Sharp
03-09-17
379
#101
Tempted to take Nishikori 2 - 1 @ 5.00
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homie1975
SBR Posting Legend
12-24-13
15448
#102
Just a few days away and RG real action gets going
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JC1186
SBR MVP
02-21-14
1070
#103
Djokovic isn't going to win RG this year. Everyone knows he's still improving and RG is by far and away the most difficult Slam for him to win.
So it doesn't mean jack if he loses early or not.
It only matters to the losers in this thread clutching at straws.
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homie1975
SBR Posting Legend
12-24-13
15448
#104
Originally posted by JC1186
Djokovic isn't going to win RG this year. Everyone knows he's still improving and RG is by far and away the most difficult Slam for him to win.
So it doesn't mean jack if he loses early or not.
It only matters to the losers in this thread clutching at straws.
Max 1 more slam in his career then he's done. Done. Hope his fans enjoyed the 12 slams to this point.