why do college basketball teams suck so much a FT%

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  • UntilTheNDofTimE
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 05-29-08
    • 9285

    #1
    why do college basketball teams suck so much a FT%
    Watching college basketball alone makes me want to puke but how can you only hit 55-65% of your free throws. I dont watch many games but seems like any game i watch its simply a brick fest with like 110 points scored in 40 minutes of play
  • UntilTheNDofTimE
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 05-29-08
    • 9285

    #2
    8-17 15-26 in this GT NCST game
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    • Naz18
      SBR MVP
      • 09-10-09
      • 4277

      #3
      Yeah i've noticed this also, kind of frustrating, but the players that suck at shooting FT are not likely going pro.
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      • Ralphie1412
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-29-08
        • 13963

        #4
        Its all different for all teams. BYU makes every one of them, Duke hits them all, that kid on cal didnt miss one all tournament. If you are watching a mid major conference you are going to get midmajor players. And yes they miss sometimes.
        "This is why my basketball intelligence is unmatched on this site. I'm sure there are better cappers but no one can tell you the strategies of most coaches before the game even starts "
        Goat Milk
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        • remmy358
          SBR MVP
          • 07-18-07
          • 2199

          #5
          it's tough because a lot of it is mental for some players. you see it in the nba, but not as much as ncaab. the problem is you can sit there and shoot FT's in the gym all day, but there is no way to simulate the pressure of a real game. you hear stories that there are players who hit 70%-80% alone in the gym but hit 50% for the year. keep in mind, these are not professional athletes, they are kids, and you can't expect perfection.
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          • ZetaPsi808
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 09-18-08
            • 12119

            #6
            scores are lower like 63-60 b/c the shot clock is 35 seconds. very different compared to 24 seconds in nba
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            • eidolon
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-02-08
              • 9531

              #7
              because they are mainly blacks that shouldn't be at a university. They can't concentrate.
              There was a study done about free-throws compared to race: average white guy shoots 79%, while average black person shoots 67%.
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              • dollarbill
                SBR MVP
                • 03-22-09
                • 1289

                #8
                Interesting, I was just looking at scores and when I saw 55-45 final my thought was to eliminate any teams scoring less then on average of 70 pts a game and you have the Champ.. Add points to the team with a average of less then 70 if their FT % is above 65%.

                From the old school and watching these kids today is tough. No organization but Miss.St showed some life.......
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                • newjerseydevils
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-11-08
                  • 3110

                  #9
                  ft's have hurt me so much in ncaab
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                  • stealthyburrito
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 05-12-09
                    • 21562

                    #10
                    Originally posted by eidolon
                    because they are mainly blacks that shouldn't be at a university. They can't concentrate.
                    There was a study done about free-throws compared to race: average white guy shoots 79%, while average black person shoots 67%.
                    is there a source to this study?
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                    • chrisharvard01
                      Restricted User
                      • 10-24-08
                      • 2943

                      #11
                      For any college team to shoot 60% at the charity stripe is pretty pathetic, yet it happens all year.



                      You just have to hope the team that f_ucks you has a good amount of seniors that will never, ever, play a game of basketball again.

                      then they can sit at their dining room table thinking about the free throws they missed from the charity stripe...
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                      • Doug
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 08-10-05
                        • 6324

                        #12
                        Originally posted by stealthyburrito
                        is there a source to this study?
                        BEANTOWNJIM ?
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                        • Chi_archie
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-22-08
                          • 63172

                          #13
                          i've never seen a kid practicing free throws in the gym or on the playground here in the hood.

                          if there is 1 kid all by himself on the playground he is shooting 25 footers, practicing and one dribble moves, or trying to dunk it or do crazy layups.

                          if there are 2 kids... its one on one

                          if there are 3 kids its one on one on one.

                          if there are 4 kids " """""""""""""""


                          and this is what gets me.... if there are 10 kids.... they still play "every man for himself" half court ball

                          hell i've seen as many as 20 kids play this way.

                          another reason why i'm never suprised to see a college kid in a tight game go 1 against 3 or 4 after a steal, loose ball or rebound. Heck, many kids are used to 1 against 19
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                          • tonyhomo
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 01-10-10
                            • 749

                            #14
                            They are college kids, it's not like ft shooting is the only thing they are bad at.
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                            • stealthyburrito
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 05-12-09
                              • 21562

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Doug
                              BEANTOWNJIM ?
                              those soon to be overpaid janitors cant make those free throws
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                              • Chi_archie
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-22-08
                                • 63172

                                #16
                                Originally posted by tonyhomo
                                They are college kids, it's not like ft shooting is the only thing they are bad at.


                                ???????

                                I mean it is all relative.....

                                but 99% of D-1 college basketball players are better at 99% of basketball skills/talents ect than I am.....


                                but yet an old washed up guy like me can shoot better free throws than them.... and prob do useless ball handling/hand eye drills better than half of them....

                                you see the disconnect?
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                                • skrtelfan
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 10-09-08
                                  • 1913

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by eidolon
                                  because they are mainly blacks that shouldn't be at a university. They can't concentrate.
                                  There was a study done about free-throws compared to race: average white guy shoots 79%, while average black person shoots 67%.
                                  I call shenanigans!
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                                  • AZUC8
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 02-20-10
                                    • 112

                                    #18
                                    So you might as well pull a hack a shaq and foul them every play.
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                                    • pavyracer
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 04-12-07
                                      • 82880

                                      #19
                                      My guess is the same reason teams miss FG's in football and PK's in soccer. If it was automatic they wouldn't have to shoot them.
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                                      • Chi_archie
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-22-08
                                        • 63172

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                                        My guess is the same reason teams miss FG's in football and PK's in soccer. If it was automatic they wouldn't have to shoot them.
                                        the point isn't that they should make ALL of them..... but that there is a disproportionate and extremely valuable discrepancy on how good their free throw shooting skills are in comparison to other skills.....

                                        the point is that it takes minimal effort for the majority of players on a team to move from shooting 65-70% up to 80%

                                        over the course of the year that will equal a 1-3 or more extra wins for a team...

                                        a team like Marquette would have won 6 or 7 more games if they shoot an extra 5-10% better on their free throws
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                                        • Chi_archie
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-22-08
                                          • 63172

                                          #21
                                          by the way that wasn't a knock on marquette's free throw shooting, because I know that Buzz williams emphasizes it and they are a good ft shooting team relatively speaking.


                                          I used them as an example because they've had some many close games this year...
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                                          • Rixsaw
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-23-08
                                            • 4532

                                            #22
                                            You gotta realized that these are students, not professionals. At their age, they have school, party and girls on their mind. The few who have skill, and have put more emphasis on basketball over party and girls makes the NBA.
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                                            • Powderguy
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 09-18-09
                                              • 6939

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by eidolon
                                              because they are mainly blacks that shouldn't be at a university. They can't concentrate. There was a study done about free-throws compared to race: Average white guy shoots 79%, while average black person shoots 67%.
                                              no doubt!
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                                              • MrTwiz
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 01-26-10
                                                • 913

                                                #24
                                                Their kids for christ sake! Playing normally on he biggest stage of their lives. Its pressure, causes u to second guess your self and u miss. Its just being human...............and if they got paid off or not
                                                God hates cowards
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                                                • pavyracer
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 04-12-07
                                                  • 82880

                                                  #25
                                                  Why do golfers miss 3 foot putts?
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                                                  • beach nut
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 03-18-09
                                                    • 589

                                                    #26
                                                    Some college kids can't take the pressure.
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                                                    • jayroy25
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-18-09
                                                      • 1578

                                                      #27
                                                      tell me about it in high skool practice thats all u do is shoot free throws for like 30 minutes at end of practice. some of these teams could have 3-6 more wins if they could hit from the charity strip
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                                                      • Carson05
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 10-02-08
                                                        • 506

                                                        #28
                                                        we used to shoot 100 FT's in practice, i used to make around 90. in the games i was probably around a 60% FT shooter.

                                                        however, i was about a 36% 3 pt shooter, and made more threes than anyone at my HS ever. its mental

                                                        oh and white guys arent as athletic, so they tend to work more on form and touch early on while blacks get by on raw athleticism and then go back and learn to shoot. obviously there are exceptions
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                                                        • Extra Innings
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 02-26-10
                                                          • 15058

                                                          #29
                                                          Comes down to priorities and discipline. FT's can make or break a game.
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                                                          • CaptainPrice
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 10-29-09
                                                            • 1064

                                                            #30
                                                            not the nba...
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                                                            • Yi
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 03-19-09
                                                              • 646

                                                              #31
                                                              Partly because they're not professional players.
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                                                              • dollarbill
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 03-22-09
                                                                • 1289

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                                Why do golfers miss 3 foot putts?
                                                                About 3% of the time they miss meanig they make 97%

                                                                Teams with most made FT's this afternoon are 3-0 Duke & Temple 85%

                                                                Ohio St cruises.... from the 3 point line!

                                                                Ohio State 72, Minnesota 63
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                                                                • ttwarrior1
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 06-23-09
                                                                  • 28467

                                                                  #33
                                                                  anyone else agree players of the past are better than current players at least overall
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                                                                  • Chi_archie
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 07-22-08
                                                                    • 63172

                                                                    #34
                                                                    where have you gone Rick Barry?
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                                                                    • Chi_archie
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 07-22-08
                                                                      • 63172

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                                      My guess is the same reason teams miss FG's in football and PK's in soccer. If it was automatic they wouldn't have to shoot them.

                                                                      Pavy, how many D-1 scholarship kickers can you beat out in a best of ten fg kicking contest from 45 yards outs?

                                                                      how often would a team of SBR posters beat a D-1 soccer team in a traditional soccer OT shootout?

                                                                      this would actually be kind of interesting. you could have Shark, you, and the crazy guy with all that tats? I can't think of his name right now
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