Legendz - This is a book you should look at

SBR_John · 08-11-07, 10:32 AM

Reports like maritimes can't be part of the Legendz future. Collars are fine but $50 is insulting.

We have made four visits there. They have continued to invest in themselves. The new facility, which they own including the land, is the most modern sportsbook facility this side of the Atlantic.

Where they are weak is in marketing. And maybe weak is a poor choice of words. They do not believe in enticing players with a big bonus. They want to offer the best customer service in the industry. Let’s face it, customer service has slipped rather dramatically at nearly all sportsbooks. Can they live up to their own expectations? Is their service really that much better? Stay tuned.

Omnivorous Frog · 08-11-07, 10:37 AM

Thank you very much for the input. I see it was a couple of years ago in the friendlier environment also. In other words, it has nothing to do with professional action, they don't like winners. Might have to go against my Muslim beliefs and sample some swine just to see what happens, oink oink.

At least this thread shows what this forum is capable of without jj and friends contaminating the discussion. Finally a good informative thread. This boot winners strategy would never occur at Jazz, or any of their shops.

I can just picture jj as Ralph Wiggums standing in the shallow end of the pool saying the water is green around me, what color with blue makes green?

Omnivorous Frog · 08-11-07, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by SBR_John

Reports like maritimes can't be part of the Legendz future. Collars are fine but $50 is insulting.

We have made four visits there. They have continued to invest in themselves. The new facility, which they own including the land, is the most modern sportsbook facility this side of the Atlantic.

Where they are weak is in marketing. And maybe weak is a poor choice of words. They do not believe in enticing players with a big bonus. They want to offer the best customer service in the industry. Let’s face it, customer service has slipped rather dramatically at nearly all sportsbooks. Can they live up to their own expectations? Is their service really that much better? Stay tuned.

I really don't give a rat's ass about marketing or customer service. But getting your account cutoff and then reinstated with a $50. limit is too VIP/MVP like for me. The Shrink was always wanting me to go there but I had heard the same things, win and gone. They had better come to the realization that a lot of the recreationals are gone and the sharps are here to stay. If you can't handle that customer mix your time is up. First rating I disagree with, but this is not an A shop.

RickySteve · 08-11-07, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by SBR_John

Actually I don't. I've seen and met more books and bookmakers than probably anyone. When we stamp an A+ on a book and tell you they are a professional book you can cash it. I still respect your opinion however.

Professional books don't have $500 limits. Professional books also don't kick out professionals. I'm sure the money they're offering you is really juicy, and that's great, but don't call a Ford a Rolls Royce.

RickySteve · 08-11-07, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by SBR_John

Where they are weak is in marketing. And maybe weak is a poor choice of words. They do not believe in enticing players with a big bonus. They want to offer the best customer service in the industry. Let’s face it, customer service has slipped rather dramatically at nearly all sportsbooks. Can they live up to their own expectations? Is their service really that much better? Stay tuned.

In my experience, their CS was rather poor, even by sportsbook standards.

RickySteve · 08-11-07, 11:03 AM

Originally posted by SBR_John

When we stamp an A+ on a book and tell you they are a professional book you can cash it.

Cascade and WWTS?

Omnivorous Frog · 08-11-07, 11:10 AM

I must not comprehend the grading criteria. But I would think not wanting professional action and cutting off winners would have some negative consequences. Maybe there should be another column besides the country. Can we put a sharp with a red circle and line covering him?

Zeroed · 08-11-07, 11:28 AM

I guess John means Legenz is run by good guys, in a professional way..that´s a difference to a book that takes on "professional action". Because in the recommended list, i see them as R and not P which is correct..

RickySteve · 08-11-07, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by Zeroed

I guess John means Legenz is run by good guys, in a professional way..that´s a difference to a book that takes on "professional action". Because in the recommended list, i see them as R and not P which is correct..

Good point. If he's talking about making them an A+ recreational book, that's a different story. I don't understand why he would have that terminology in the ratings and then completely misuse it when discussing them though.

Omnivorous Frog · 08-11-07, 11:39 AM

Then on that undesirable professional action they determine whether it is or not. So a more accurate description would be winning action not desired. If you were professional, and followed steam and lost, I would tend to think you would stay longer than a recreational on a hot streak. That is just my interpretation on it.

Mudcat · 08-11-07, 12:07 PM

Indeed that looks to be the size of it.

RickySteve · 08-11-07, 12:37 PM

I was small net loser when I cashed out and they still booted me.

Omnivorous Frog · 08-11-07, 12:40 PM

What was the reason for this booting? Did they give you one? Or just lost the daily boot out lottery there?

RickySteve · 08-11-07, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by Omnivorous Frog

What was the reason for this booting? Did they give you one? Or just lost the daily boot out lottery there?

No idea. I tried to make a small deposit a while later and they said my account was closed at manager's discretion.

Omnivorous Frog · 08-11-07, 01:29 PM

austintx05 · 08-11-07, 04:52 PM

what it boils down to is SBR gets paid to promote so you feel comfortable playing there. No Matchbook promo, but your money is safe there. Other than MB, if I was looking for a book that welcomed pro action and would never cut my limits...I go to WSEX & Olympic

SBR_John · 08-11-07, 05:11 PM

This will be an excellent book for this football season. If anyone has a problem with them write us. Most guys get the boot for only betting stale numbers at 4am or just being trouble making angle shooters.

For the other 99% of the players out there this is going to be a great out as long as their processing holds up and I think it will.

austintx05 · 08-11-07, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by SBR_John

This will be an excellent book for this football season. If anyone has a problem with them write us. Most guys get the boot for only betting stale numbers at 4am or just being trouble making angle shooters.

For the other 99% of the players out there this is going to be a great out as long as their processing holds up and I think it will.

I have accounts at

)Matchbook
)WSEX
)Olympic

What will Legendz offer me for football that these 3 won't?

SBR_John · 08-11-07, 05:50 PM

Well I think we will have to wait and see. You may want to open an account at one of the two Panama books because of the processing issue.

Your three books are of course three great books. They are also 3 of the best processors over the past 6 months although WSEX had a few problems early on.

The banking in Panama is friendly for those books for now. So an account there could give you faster access in case you need some cash fast. Otherwise, just stay with those three.

austintx05 · 08-11-07, 05:52 PM

when you say Panama books, do you mean the pig?

pags11 · 08-11-07, 05:52 PM

austin,

I've found WSEX's CS to be average at best...it's unbelievable when you call legendz...dudes on there speak excellent english, they are very knowledgable and don't give you half answers like I've received from WSEX...don't get me wrong, WSEX is in my top five as well, but I just think they are so big they don't give a shit sometimes in dealing with customers...

Mudcat · 08-11-07, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by austintx05

I have accounts at

)Matchbook
)WSEX
)Olympic

What will Legendz offer me for football that these 3 won't?

If you were brand new to Legendz you could get a 20% sign-up bonus. Just expect a lot of frustration meeting rollovers because, with those other 3 books, Legendz will very seldom have the best line on anything you want.

All Legendz really has to sell is customer service. I agree that their CS is above average. You just have decide how much you are willing to give away for a little upgrade in CS. Personally I can deal with the CS departments of most books so IMO that factor is being over-sold here.

In all other aspects of being a sportsbook, it would be rare to find a someone that offers less than Legendz.

austintx05 · 08-11-07, 06:54 PM

pags - you know I respect you, but I cannot see a reason to go there. If they choose the reduce juice route, then sure I will give them a shot. Its good to have threads like this though. I didn't know they existed until I read this.

pags11 · 08-11-07, 07:20 PM

thanks austin...most people don't know much about them but I've been following them steady for 3 years...they have a sister website called the pig, you get -108 on all bets I believe...I've never played there, but I think they are A rated as well...-108 isn't the best, but it's better than -110...GL this season my friend...