NASCAR betting problem tonight?

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  • exstatman
    SBR MVP
    • 11-02-06
    • 1060

    #1
    NASCAR betting problem tonight?
    All books have a rule that says they can void a bet if there's an "obviously" bad line. Well, in tonight's NASCAR race, the top 2 choices were Carl Edwards at about 6/5 and Denny Hamlin at about 2-1. Due to travel problems, Denny didn't make it to the track in time to race. One would figure bets on Hamlin would be refunds, but what about bets on Edwards? The books could clearly argue the odds on Edwards would have been even lower than 6/5, but I don't think there's a provision for adjusting the line like they can in baseball. Also, Bookmaker had a prop on Edwards versus the field; Edwards at +165 and the field at -210. Again, the same argument could be made that without the clear second choice in the field, the odds would have been different.

    What will/should happen?
  • zootiehead
    SBR MVP
    • 12-09-06
    • 1715

    #2
    Hamlin is in now so it's a moot point.
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    • BigBollocks
      SBR MVP
      • 06-11-06
      • 2045

      #3
      Exstat the bet would have stood. In addition, all outright bets on Hamlin to win the race would have been a loser, as outright bets are considered "all in." The only bets that would have been graded no-action and refunded would have been head to head bets involving Hamlin.
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      • exstatman
        SBR MVP
        • 11-02-06
        • 1060

        #4
        OK, maybe a silly question, but a heads up with Edwards versus the field with Hamlin winning the race means what? He won't be considered the "official" winner, but the guy who would be declared the winner wasn't part of the "field" before the race. Maybe just a refund of everything if Hamlin wins?
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        • BigBollocks
          SBR MVP
          • 06-11-06
          • 2045

          #5
          Exstat, the field is anyone but Edwards, regardless of driver changes, scratches, date of the race changing, race shortening, etc.....
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          • exstatman
            SBR MVP
            • 11-02-06
            • 1060

            #6
            This was an extreme case,as the guy who qualified Hamlins car started the race and was replaced. In theory, before the race started, if a book offered wagering on EVERY driver, the guy who was declared the winner would not have been offered. So my thinking is all the head to head props that didn't involve Hamlin or Edwards would stand as written, but any that involved Hamlin, which would include the field, would be refunds. BTW, would a Edwards/Hamlin matchup go to Edwards?
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            • exstatman
              SBR MVP
              • 11-02-06
              • 1060

              #7
              When bets involve the "field", one expects that the "field" includes any entrant that one could have wagered on separately. One could not have wagered on the driver that was ultimately declared the winner had any book offered wagering on EVERY driver.
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              • zootiehead
                SBR MVP
                • 12-09-06
                • 1715

                #8
                The Greek's rule on the field is:

                * Wagering on the "Field" includes any driver that odds have not been assigned to.
                I'm not too happy since I had Hamlin to win outright and it ended up being a refund, but I knew it would end up that way after Arimola started the race.
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