That's why Bill is one of the top coaches in the league
He plays to win, not LOSE!
Lots of gamblers need to take lessons from him.
CONGRATS COLTS on remaining undefeated.
StraitShooter
SBR Posting Legend
07-22-09
10464
#2
Originally posted by Fishhead
He plays to win, not LOSE!
Lots of gamblers need to take lessons from him.
CONGRATS COLTS on remaining undefeated.
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ZetaPsi808
SBR Posting Legend
09-18-08
12119
#3
he is too cocky and it always bites him in the ass
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Fishhead
SBR Aristocracy
08-11-05
40179
#4
Only those that understand football understand why he did what he did......EVER A GREATER DECISION THE MORE I THINK ABOUT IT.
The thing everyone should be knocking 3x more is the wasting of their timeouts.
But again, you have to understand football to realize this.
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tullamore
SBR MVP
07-17-07
3586
#5
The timeouts were the bigger issue, without a timeout you can challenge the spot.
Also I have to think on 3rd down they knew they were going to go for it 4th if they were stopped. The play call on 3rd could have been better. I would have ran the 2 straight downs, make Indy use another timeout.
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MrMonkey
SBR MVP
11-09-08
2278
#6
Originally posted by Fishhead
Only those that understand football understand why he did what he did......EVER A GREATER DECISION THE MORE I THINK ABOUT IT.
The thing everyone should be knocking 3x more is the wasting of their timeouts.
But again, you have to understand football to realize this.
Fish, your probably at the moment the best at picking winners and I have the utmost respect for your knowledge, but go to bed and tell us how you feel when you wake up? Colts had 1 timeout and maybe 60 yards say to go? Shows absolute no confidence in your defense! Fourth and 2 on your own 28? Bill went brain dead for the moment!
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tullamore
SBR MVP
07-17-07
3586
#7
Originally posted by MrMonkey
Fish, your probably at the moment the best at picking winners and I have the utmost respect for your knowledge, but go to bed and tell us how you feel when you wake up? Colts had 1 timeout and maybe 60 yards say to go? Shows absolute no confidence in your defense! Fourth and 2 on your own 28? Bill went brain dead for the moment!
Who cares about showing confidence in your D, when you had no confidence in your D?
The lack of confidence in the D is why the Pats went for it.
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bpw6
SBR High Roller
10-24-09
235
#8
Fishhead lol you make no sense... that was the worst call of the year and as Al Michaels just said, that call will live in infamy as one of the worst decisions he has ever made.
Not to mention he is just pathetic scum.. You look at a guy like Caldwell or Dungy and it is incredible how much more respectible these guys are
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Nicky Santoro
SBR Posting Legend
04-08-08
16103
#9
you can rule out 1 thing... Fishler did NOT have N.E pick em.. or he'd not be saying this. my guess is fishler had N.E +2.5 OR IND -1..
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MrMonkey
SBR MVP
11-09-08
2278
#10
Originally posted by tullamore
Who cares about showing confidence in your D, when you had no confidence in your D?
The lack of confidence in the D is why the Pats went for it.
Would have been nice to let them earn it instead of giving the Colts an early Christmas present. The guy is one of the best coaches ever who just fuked up one time!
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tullamore
SBR MVP
07-17-07
3586
#11
Originally posted by bpw6
Fishhead lol you make no sense... that was the worst call of the year and as Al Michaels just said, that call will live in infamy as one of the worst decisions he has ever made. Not to mention he is just pathetic scum.. You look at a guy like Caldwell or Dungy and it is incredible how much more respectible these guys are
Why is Belichick scum? Because he doesn't pander to the media liked Dungy did when coached. Talk to ex players and listen to what they have to say about Belichick, they love him.
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PorkChop
SBR Hall of Famer
09-18-08
8193
#12
He's the best coach in the league, and that is why. On the Road, he played to win. It Faulk didnt bobble the ball the game is over, and he looks like a genius. It's a game of inches, and he made the right call.
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MrMonkey
SBR MVP
11-09-08
2278
#13
Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
you can rule out 1 thing... Fishler did NOT have N.E pick em.. or he'd not be saying this. my guess is fishler had N.E +2.5 OR IND -1..
Nickaayy!!!
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tullamore
SBR MVP
07-17-07
3586
#14
Originally posted by MrMonkey
Would have been nice to let them earn it instead of giving the Colts an early Christmas present. The guy is one of the best coaches ever who just fuked up one time!
I guess he felt they couldn't earn it. If Faulk doesn't bobble the ball this argument is moot, people are calling it a ballsy move.
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jellobiafra
SBR Hall of Famer
03-08-09
6291
#15
Totally inexcusable/irresponsible/retarded call.
I did not have action on this game, but you are wrong here.
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marabdl86
SBR MVP
10-06-09
1067
#16
Once Addai got to the goaline he should have let them score. he would have had over a minute and some change to do something. A field goal would have won him the game.
Anyways, the Pats got the first down. Refs up to their cheating ass ways like usual. sickening. You can't win in this shit
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tacomax
SBR Hall of Famer
08-10-05
9619
#17
LOLZ at someone questioning Fishhead. Do you know who is he???
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tullamore
SBR MVP
07-17-07
3586
#18
Everyone is talking about the lack of confidence Belichick had in the D, but no one talks about the confidence he had in the offense to get the 1st down.
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jellobiafra
SBR Hall of Famer
03-08-09
6291
#19
Originally posted by tacomax
LOLZ at someone questioning Fishhead. Do you know who is he???
He's one of the greatest gambling minds of our generation - right behind Phil Ivey and Stanford Wong. I hate to disagree with him on anything, but I just really feel like he's wrong here.
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frostno98
SBR Hall of Famer
09-11-07
9769
#20
I lost, but I liked the call! I mean the Colts D didn't really do d1ck all day either.
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MrMonkey
SBR MVP
11-09-08
2278
#21
Originally posted by tullamore
Everyone is talking about the lack of confidence Belichick had in the D, but no one talks about the confidence he had in the offense to get the 1st down.
My friend, bottom line it is an idiotic call! No other way to look at it! Nothing to debate!
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Dark Horse
SBR Posting Legend
12-14-05
13764
#22
Bellichik is arrogant enough to gamble with something that nobody else would try. But Brady is out of blind luck. These things always used to go his way. Not anymore.
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marabdl86
SBR MVP
10-06-09
1067
#23
Not anymore because of cheating refs that called off the first down and it wasn't supposedly reviewable!!!
Tell me that isn't BS
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poker_dummy101
Restricted User
11-03-08
6395
#24
I think we should start counting how many times Fish is right instead of how many wrong.. it would save us alot of time
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Dark Horse
SBR Posting Legend
12-14-05
13764
#25
Originally posted by marabdl86
Not anymore because of cheating refs that called off the first down and it wasn't supposedly reviewable!!!
Tell me that isn't BS
It was close. But in the past they made up the 'tuck rule' especially for Brady. Luck and the refs are not separate. He once was the luckiest QB on the planet.
Not anymore.
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jellobiafra
SBR Hall of Famer
03-08-09
6291
#26
"But again, you have to understand football to realize this." - Fishhead
"This decision was ludicrous. It was absolutely ridiculous. I can not believe...in my time watching football, studying it I have never seen this type of decision made that cost a team a game... That's what this decision did. It cost his team the ability to win the football game. It put them in the position of failure." - Trent Dilfer
If only Dilfer understood the game like Fishhead does.
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rezkoness69
SBR High Roller
02-16-09
249
#27
"it put them in the position of failure"
Trent Dilfer is a joke, along with most of the other guys over at ESPN. Why does he have credability? Because he quarterbacked a super-bowl team with arguably the greatest defense ever?
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rm18
SBR Posting Legend
09-20-05
22291
#28
It was the right call i calculated the Pats -300 if they went for it and -200 if they punted.
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tblues2005
SBR Hall of Famer
07-30-06
9235
#29
Originally posted by Fishhead
He plays to win, not LOSE!
Lots of gamblers need to take lessons from him.
CONGRATS COLTS on remaining undefeated.
I do see your point Fishhead. I do think it was not too smart to use up your timeouts that you had and you did that certain play at that time also. I would have used Welker or Moss in that situation on fourth down if I would have gone for it. I think he even knows now that he probably did make a mistake. You can tell by the look on his face after the Colts scored to win the game that he made a mistake. He did gamble and he lost on that gamble. I think he thought if the Colts stopped him they would score quick. In fact I would have told my defense to let them score with some time left on the clock. It did not work that way and they got beat. My opinion is that the Pats did not trust their defense because Manning was torching them in the 4th Quarter.
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Scorpion
SBR Hall of Famer
09-04-05
7797
#30
Originally posted by Fishhead
He plays to win, not LOSE!
Lots of gamblers need to take lessons from him.
CONGRATS COLTS on remaining undefeated.
He sure lost the game for his team tonight
He also sent a message to his defense:
"YOU ALL SUCK", thats why I am not punting
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Scorpion
SBR Hall of Famer
09-04-05
7797
#31
Originally posted by jellobiafra
"But again, you have to understand football to realize this." - Fishhead
"This decision was ludicrous. It was absolutely ridiculous. I can not believe...in my time watching football, studying it I have never seen this type of decision made that cost a team a game... That's what this decision did. It cost his team the ability to win the football game. It put them in the position of failure." - Trent Dilfer
If only Dilfer understood the game like Fishhead does.
Its because FH played football and won a super bowl and Dilfer did not
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Wheell
SBR MVP
01-11-07
1380
#32
This post is an IQ test. Those who agree with Fishhead pass. Those who disagree fail. The call to go for it was correct. That the Patriots lost the game doesn't change the fact that Belichick made the mathematically correct call to go for it.
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dimon
SBR MVP
08-14-09
1159
#33
Big deal...NE still remains better team...and will take care of the things down the season...
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Scorpion
SBR Hall of Famer
09-04-05
7797
#34
Belichick handled his press conf like you would expect. Rather than take any blame, his response was something to the effect of "You would think we would be able to get 1 yard on a pass play, but we didn't."
way to throw your players under the bus for YOUR call, and secondly, way to try and make your decision look better by saying you only needed one yard, when you needed two.
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Nicky Santoro
SBR Posting Legend
04-08-08
16103
#35
If NE was up by 2, then i believe it would have been the right call, cause a FG and you lose.. but they were up by 6 and IND would have needed to get in the END ZONE.. tough to do with 1 timeout and probably 1:46 to go and on your own 20 yd line..