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  • Fishhead
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-11-05
    • 40179

    #1
    That's why Bill is one of the top coaches in the league
    He plays to win, not LOSE!

    Lots of gamblers need to take lessons from him.


    CONGRATS COLTS on remaining undefeated.
  • StraitShooter
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-22-09
    • 10464

    #2
    Originally posted by Fishhead
    He plays to win, not LOSE!

    Lots of gamblers need to take lessons from him.


    CONGRATS COLTS on remaining undefeated.
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    • ZetaPsi808
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 09-18-08
      • 12119

      #3
      he is too cocky and it always bites him in the ass
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      • Fishhead
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-11-05
        • 40179

        #4
        Only those that understand football understand why he did what he did......EVER A GREATER DECISION THE MORE I THINK ABOUT IT.


        The thing everyone should be knocking 3x more is the wasting of their timeouts.

        But again, you have to understand football to realize this.
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        • tullamore
          SBR MVP
          • 07-17-07
          • 3586

          #5
          The timeouts were the bigger issue, without a timeout you can challenge the spot.

          Also I have to think on 3rd down they knew they were going to go for it 4th if they were stopped. The play call on 3rd could have been better. I would have ran the 2 straight downs, make Indy use another timeout.
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          • MrMonkey
            SBR MVP
            • 11-09-08
            • 2278

            #6
            Originally posted by Fishhead
            Only those that understand football understand why he did what he did......EVER A GREATER DECISION THE MORE I THINK ABOUT IT.


            The thing everyone should be knocking 3x more is the wasting of their timeouts.

            But again, you have to understand football to realize this.
            Fish, your probably at the moment the best at picking winners and I have the utmost respect for your knowledge, but go to bed and tell us how you feel when you wake up? Colts had 1 timeout and maybe 60 yards say to go? Shows absolute no confidence in your defense! Fourth and 2 on your own 28? Bill went brain dead for the moment!
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            • tullamore
              SBR MVP
              • 07-17-07
              • 3586

              #7
              Originally posted by MrMonkey
              Fish, your probably at the moment the best at picking winners and I have the utmost respect for your knowledge, but go to bed and tell us how you feel when you wake up? Colts had 1 timeout and maybe 60 yards say to go? Shows absolute no confidence in your defense! Fourth and 2 on your own 28? Bill went brain dead for the moment!
              Who cares about showing confidence in your D, when you had no confidence in your D?

              The lack of confidence in the D is why the Pats went for it.
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              • bpw6
                SBR High Roller
                • 10-24-09
                • 235

                #8
                Fishhead lol you make no sense... that was the worst call of the year and as Al Michaels just said, that call will live in infamy as one of the worst decisions he has ever made.

                Not to mention he is just pathetic scum.. You look at a guy like Caldwell or Dungy and it is incredible how much more respectible these guys are
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                • Nicky Santoro
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 04-08-08
                  • 16103

                  #9
                  you can rule out 1 thing... Fishler did NOT have N.E pick em.. or he'd not be saying this. my guess is fishler had N.E +2.5 OR IND -1..
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                  • MrMonkey
                    SBR MVP
                    • 11-09-08
                    • 2278

                    #10
                    Originally posted by tullamore
                    Who cares about showing confidence in your D, when you had no confidence in your D?

                    The lack of confidence in the D is why the Pats went for it.

                    Would have been nice to let them earn it instead of giving the Colts an early Christmas present. The guy is one of the best coaches ever who just fuked up one time!
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                    • tullamore
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-17-07
                      • 3586

                      #11
                      Originally posted by bpw6
                      Fishhead lol you make no sense... that was the worst call of the year and as Al Michaels just said, that call will live in infamy as one of the worst decisions he has ever made. Not to mention he is just pathetic scum.. You look at a guy like Caldwell or Dungy and it is incredible how much more respectible these guys are
                      Why is Belichick scum? Because he doesn't pander to the media liked Dungy did when coached. Talk to ex players and listen to what they have to say about Belichick, they love him.
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                      • PorkChop
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-18-08
                        • 8193

                        #12
                        He's the best coach in the league, and that is why. On the Road, he played to win. It Faulk didnt bobble the ball the game is over, and he looks like a genius. It's a game of inches, and he made the right call.
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                        • MrMonkey
                          SBR MVP
                          • 11-09-08
                          • 2278

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                          you can rule out 1 thing... Fishler did NOT have N.E pick em.. or he'd not be saying this. my guess is fishler had N.E +2.5 OR IND -1..
                          Nickaayy!!!
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                          • tullamore
                            SBR MVP
                            • 07-17-07
                            • 3586

                            #14
                            Originally posted by MrMonkey
                            Would have been nice to let them earn it instead of giving the Colts an early Christmas present. The guy is one of the best coaches ever who just fuked up one time!
                            I guess he felt they couldn't earn it. If Faulk doesn't bobble the ball this argument is moot, people are calling it a ballsy move.
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                            • jellobiafra
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 03-08-09
                              • 6291

                              #15
                              Totally inexcusable/irresponsible/retarded call.

                              I did not have action on this game, but you are wrong here.
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                              • marabdl86
                                SBR MVP
                                • 10-06-09
                                • 1067

                                #16
                                Once Addai got to the goaline he should have let them score. he would have had over a minute and some change to do something. A field goal would have won him the game.

                                Anyways, the Pats got the first down. Refs up to their cheating ass ways like usual. sickening. You can't win in this shit
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                                • tacomax
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 08-10-05
                                  • 9619

                                  #17
                                  LOLZ at someone questioning Fishhead. Do you know who is he???
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                                  • tullamore
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 07-17-07
                                    • 3586

                                    #18
                                    Everyone is talking about the lack of confidence Belichick had in the D, but no one talks about the confidence he had in the offense to get the 1st down.
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                                    • jellobiafra
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 03-08-09
                                      • 6291

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by tacomax
                                      LOLZ at someone questioning Fishhead. Do you know who is he???
                                      He's one of the greatest gambling minds of our generation - right behind Phil Ivey and Stanford Wong. I hate to disagree with him on anything, but I just really feel like he's wrong here.
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                                      • frostno98
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 09-11-07
                                        • 9769

                                        #20
                                        I lost, but I liked the call! I mean the Colts D didn't really do d1ck all day either.
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                                        • MrMonkey
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-09-08
                                          • 2278

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by tullamore
                                          Everyone is talking about the lack of confidence Belichick had in the D, but no one talks about the confidence he had in the offense to get the 1st down.
                                          My friend, bottom line it is an idiotic call! No other way to look at it! Nothing to debate!
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                                          • Dark Horse
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 12-14-05
                                            • 13764

                                            #22
                                            Bellichik is arrogant enough to gamble with something that nobody else would try. But Brady is out of blind luck. These things always used to go his way. Not anymore.
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                                            • marabdl86
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 10-06-09
                                              • 1067

                                              #23
                                              Not anymore because of cheating refs that called off the first down and it wasn't supposedly reviewable!!!

                                              Tell me that isn't BS
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                                              • poker_dummy101
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 11-03-08
                                                • 6395

                                                #24
                                                I think we should start counting how many times Fish is right instead of how many wrong.. it would save us alot of time
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                                                • Dark Horse
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 12-14-05
                                                  • 13764

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by marabdl86
                                                  Not anymore because of cheating refs that called off the first down and it wasn't supposedly reviewable!!!

                                                  Tell me that isn't BS

                                                  It was close. But in the past they made up the 'tuck rule' especially for Brady. Luck and the refs are not separate. He once was the luckiest QB on the planet.

                                                  Not anymore.
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                                                  • jellobiafra
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 03-08-09
                                                    • 6291

                                                    #26
                                                    "But again, you have to understand football to realize this." - Fishhead


                                                    "This decision was ludicrous. It was absolutely ridiculous. I can not believe...in my time watching football, studying it I have never seen this type of decision made that cost a team a game... That's what this decision did. It cost his team the ability to win the football game. It put them in the position of failure." - Trent Dilfer



                                                    If only Dilfer understood the game like Fishhead does.
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                                                    • rezkoness69
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 02-16-09
                                                      • 249

                                                      #27
                                                      "it put them in the position of failure"

                                                      Trent Dilfer is a joke, along with most of the other guys over at ESPN. Why does he have credability? Because he quarterbacked a super-bowl team with arguably the greatest defense ever?
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                                                      • rm18
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 09-20-05
                                                        • 22291

                                                        #28
                                                        It was the right call i calculated the Pats -300 if they went for it and -200 if they punted.
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                                                        • tblues2005
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 07-30-06
                                                          • 9235

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                          He plays to win, not LOSE!

                                                          Lots of gamblers need to take lessons from him.


                                                          CONGRATS COLTS on remaining undefeated.
                                                          I do see your point Fishhead. I do think it was not too smart to use up your timeouts that you had and you did that certain play at that time also. I would have used Welker or Moss in that situation on fourth down if I would have gone for it. I think he even knows now that he probably did make a mistake. You can tell by the look on his face after the Colts scored to win the game that he made a mistake. He did gamble and he lost on that gamble. I think he thought if the Colts stopped him they would score quick. In fact I would have told my defense to let them score with some time left on the clock. It did not work that way and they got beat. My opinion is that the Pats did not trust their defense because Manning was torching them in the 4th Quarter.
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                                                          • Scorpion
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 09-04-05
                                                            • 7797

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                            He plays to win, not LOSE!

                                                            Lots of gamblers need to take lessons from him.


                                                            CONGRATS COLTS on remaining undefeated.
                                                            He sure lost the game for his team tonight

                                                            He also sent a message to his defense:

                                                            "YOU ALL SUCK", thats why I am not punting
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                                                            • Scorpion
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 09-04-05
                                                              • 7797

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by jellobiafra
                                                              "But again, you have to understand football to realize this." - Fishhead


                                                              "This decision was ludicrous. It was absolutely ridiculous. I can not believe...in my time watching football, studying it I have never seen this type of decision made that cost a team a game... That's what this decision did. It cost his team the ability to win the football game. It put them in the position of failure." - Trent Dilfer



                                                              If only Dilfer understood the game like Fishhead does.
                                                              Its because FH played football and won a super bowl and Dilfer did not
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                                                              • Wheell
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-11-07
                                                                • 1380

                                                                #32
                                                                This post is an IQ test. Those who agree with Fishhead pass. Those who disagree fail. The call to go for it was correct. That the Patriots lost the game doesn't change the fact that Belichick made the mathematically correct call to go for it.
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                                                                • dimon
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 08-14-09
                                                                  • 1159

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Big deal...NE still remains better team...and will take care of the things down the season...
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                                                                  • Scorpion
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 09-04-05
                                                                    • 7797

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Belichick handled his press conf like you would expect. Rather than take any blame, his response was something to the effect of "You would think we would be able to get 1 yard on a pass play, but we didn't."

                                                                    way to throw your players under the bus for YOUR call, and secondly, way to try and make your decision look better by saying you only needed one yard, when you needed two.
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                                                                    • Nicky Santoro
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 04-08-08
                                                                      • 16103

                                                                      #35
                                                                      If NE was up by 2, then i believe it would have been the right call, cause a FG and you lose.. but they were up by 6 and IND would have needed to get in the END ZONE.. tough to do with 1 timeout and probably 1:46 to go and on your own 20 yd line..
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