Does eating PORK reduce your life expectancy ?

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  • Sam Odom
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    • 10-30-05
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    #1
    Does eating PORK reduce your life expectancy ?
    Or are the Jews and Muslims full of it
  • DrStale
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    • 12-07-08
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    #2
    Well bombing the shit out of each other probably reduces life expectancy but there doesn't seem to be a rule against that.

    At least pork is delicious.
    Originally posted by Dark Horse
    If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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    • Sam Odom
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      #3
      Doctor, that is the paradox isnt it. Jews & Muslims are blood kin and religiously closer to each other than either one are to Christians, yet they (hardliners) hate each other.

      Back to pork. Today's processed pork is probably better/healthier for human consumption than chicken.
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      • CS-Cedrick
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        #4
        No, pork is good for ya!
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        • zubzub
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          • 09-09-09
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          #5
          Originally posted by Sam Odom
          Or are the Jews and Muslims full of it
          This is just another of the thousands upon thousands of myths that surround the religions of mankind but there are certain ways that Pork can be prepared for consumption that are more healthy than others.

          Of course a key with Pork is that you want to be sure its properly cooked.





          Registered Dietitian Lanah J. Brennan (pictured here holding a tray of Bell Peppers and Celery....she's kinda cute so I believe what she says) proclaims that Heating pork to 145 degrees Fahrenheit for 15 seconds meets the FDA’s minimal internal temperature guidelines. This is enough to kill the parasites that may cause trichinosis. However, there is still concern around possible E. Coli or Listeria contamination so the USDA recommends that pork should be cooked to an internal temperature of 160 degrees.





          Cooking pork to a higher temperature is especially important for pregnant women, children, the elderly and those with decreased immune function. Medium rare to raw pork should always be avoided.


          Of note also, as it relates to Jews and Pigs and is relevant also to a Sports Discussion Forum: In the early days of Football's invention, the ball was covered in pigskin so Jews were forbidden from taking part in Football because of Leviticus 11:6-8 which declared: "And the swine, though he divide the hoof (note: whatever the hell that means), and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you. Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch.


          Jews coulda been kickers I guess...back in the day...but even then the risk of a ball bouncing up and contacting the flesh of a Jewish head or hand would have been run.
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          • DeeWizzle
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            #6
            Bacon is good for your heart
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            • Sam Odom
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              #7
              Originally posted by zubzub
              This is just another of the thousands upon thousands of myths that surround the religions of mankind but there are certain ways that Pork can be prepared for consumption that are more healthy than others.

              Are you saying old-time observant jews & muslims can 'legally' eat pork?
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              • zubzub
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                • 09-09-09
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                #8
                Originally posted by Sam Odom
                Are you saying old-time observant jews & muslims can 'legally' eat pork?
                NO! Absolutely not. If one has committed themselves to adhering to the tenets of a religion, they need to do that and not be wishy-washy, regardless of whether I personally find merit in the tenets of their chosen Faith and regardless also of the indisputable fact that Bacon is delicious.

                Again...if properly prepared.



                Bacon should be as crispy as possible without being burnt. Even thats a matter of personal preference though. I've encountered a handful of people who like Bacon slightly blackened.


                (Wo)men should follow their heart, trust their instincts. If a a man or a woman is compelled to follow a religion they should do that. They really should also though stop hurting and killing (wo)men who are compelled to follow a religious pathway that is different from their own.

                I just don't see this happening though.
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                • Mikail
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                  • 07-19-09
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                  #9
                  Uric acid! Look it up.
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                  • yisman
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                    • 09-01-08
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Sam Odom
                    Are you saying old-time observant jews & muslims can 'legally' eat pork?
                    Sam, what on earth are you talking about?

                    Jews and Muslims not eating pork has nothing to do with whether pork is 'healthy' or whether it increases or decreases life expectancy.

                    Where did you get such an absurd idea from?
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                    • Sam Odom
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by yisman
                      Sam, what on earth are you talking about? Jews and Muslims not eating pork has nothing to do with whether pork is 'healthy' or whether it increases or decreases life expectancy. Where did you get such an absurd idea from?

                      Ok, what was/is the reason? Just asking because if it isnt 'bad' for you then why the prohibition?
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                      • Dark Horse
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                        • 12-14-05
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                        #12
                        There's a reason the life expectancy in Japan is the highest in the world. They eat fish, not meat. Man is not a meat eater. He doesn't have the teeth for it, and his intestinal tract is too long for it. As a result little particles of meat get caught in the intestines, where they rot for years. You don't want to know how many diseases start in the intestines.
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                        • durito
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                          • 07-03-06
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                          #13
                          That depends on how much chicharron you eat
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                          • Sam Odom
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by durito
                            That depends on how much chicharron you eat
                            That stuff is good with a cold beer. I have a Mex market close to me that cooks them up each day. They sell out by 2pm.
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                            • RogueJuror
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                              • 07-08-08
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by durito
                              That depends on how much chicharron you eat
                              you are one of us

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                              • illmatick
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                                #16
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                                • CS-Cedrick
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                  There's a reason the life expectancy in Japan is the highest in the world. They eat fish, not meat. Man is not a meat eater. He doesn't have the teeth for it, and his intestinal tract is too long for it. As a result little particles of meat get caught in the intestines, where they rot for years. You don't want to know how many diseases start in the intestines.
                                  I probably have a life expectancy of 30 years (8 to go ), I eat meat like if there's no tomorrow, but of course, even though it is the pillar of my diet I eat my veggies, fruit and grains, and in a very balanced way, but I cannot just imagine myself having a meal without meat in it. By meat I mean all that is considered meat (pig, poultry, fish, beef and all other edible animals).
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                                  • CS-Cedrick
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by durito
                                    That depends on how much chicharron you eat
                                    Chicharron should be an essential part of your regular diet.
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                                    • Sam Odom
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by CS-Cedrick
                                      Chicharron should be an essential part of your regular diet.


                                      I have to admit, chicharrons do not look healthy. I see these guys, mostly Mexican, eating these things most every day. The market I visit fry them about 6-8 inches long and 2 inches thick. The ones I have eaten are damn good & tasty!
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                                      • durito
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by RogueJuror
                                        you are one of us
                                        i'm so sorry i bailed man

                                        my fault
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                                        • CS-Cedrick
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Sam Odom


                                          I have to admit, chicharrons do not look healthy. I see these guys, mostly Mexican, eating these things most every day. The market I visit fry them about 6-8 inches long and 2 inches thick. The ones I have eaten are damn good tasting!
                                          They are not healthy, that's what makes them so good, and simple as hell to make them (with the appropriate equipment of course). And that cut you wrote about, the traditional chicharron, just made me drool really bad.
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                                          • durito
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                                            #22
                                            I can't make a decent chicharron, I need someone to show me how.

                                            Cedrick, you are only 22?
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                                            • Nastrovje
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                                              • 09-01-09
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by DeeWizzle
                                              Bacon is good for your heart
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                                              • raydog
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                                                #24
                                                nobody ever even heard of cholesterol 30yrs ago and you really think that anyone gives a flying fukk if they live to be 79 instead of 78??? sure, if you eat some shit day after day, it could clog your arteries and shorten your life...its a chance you fukking take. i know more fat fukking unhealthy people who dont eat meat because they think it will kill them..... really, like the cheese and bread thats making you an overweight fat fukk isnt killing you??? sorry to some of you who really think that your religion will save you from something, but the honest truth is you are all a bunch of fukking puppets who, after you die, will be no better than the common cussing, stealing, murdering, lying, alcoholic, drug addicted, meat eating person next to you. you religious people need to get your fukking head out of your ass and just be a good person. you know what, dont be a good person...if you dont get caught being an asshole, it will never matter. eat or drink whatever the fukk you want or do drugs as much as you want. when you die, you wont be any different than the cleanest,most religious person who ever lived...we will all be bones in the fukking ground. dont believe me, go dig someone up.... and dont you dare come at me without some fukking evidence of something different...which nobody has and nobody ever will.

                                                i figure this will touch a soft spot with guys, but the truth is what it is....paco, eat whatever the fukk you want to pal. peemike, believe whatever the fukk you want to pal...it doesnt make a rats fukking ass when you die. thousands and thousands of years without the smallest piece of proof that anything you eat or believe in, ever matters. maybe you die sooner if you eat bad shit, but not believing in a religion never killed anyone before their time.
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                                                • CS-Cedrick
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by durito
                                                  I can't make a decent chicharron, I need someone to show me how.

                                                  Cedrick, you are only 22?
                                                  I'll give you official chicharron making lessons and yes durito, I'm only 22.
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                                                  • Sam Odom
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Nastrovje
                                                    I realize this is anecdotal -- My maternal grandfather & grandmother lived to be in their 90s. They ate 5-6 strips of bacon each and every morning. At least in their last 20yrs that I knew of.
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                                                    • durito
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                                                      #27
                                                      Nice Ced, I just assumed you were older.

                                                      Hopefully I'll get up to Costa Rica some day soon, haven't been there in 8 years -- since I was 22.
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                                                      • CS-Cedrick
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by durito
                                                        Nice Ced, I just assumed you were older.

                                                        Hopefully I'll get up to Costa Rica some day soon, haven't been there in 8 years -- since I was 22.
                                                        Let me know when you're around the place and we'll go have the best chicharrones you will ever have.
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                                                        • romanowski
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                                                          #29
                                                          Jews and Moslems are closer to each other moreso then either is to christians only racially fat frank

                                                          religiously Jews and Christians are brothers

                                                          as for why pork was prohibited amongst semites it is because of several reasons

                                                          a fowl animal

                                                          did not keep as long as cured beef

                                                          and it was considered an "indulgence" the kind the romans partook in and worthy of being a sacrifice to god not to eat

                                                          as for being "healthy" it is ok in moderation, especially lean pork loin. Pig protein is good for ya
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                                                          • 20Four7
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                                                            #30
                                                            Processed anything isn't good for ya....... Man is not designed to eat meat..... that being said I"m gonna have a veal sammioch with hot peppers......
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                                                            • jellobiafra
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                                              Ok, what was/is the reason? Just asking because if it isnt 'bad' for you then why the prohibition?
                                                              It's just another in a long line of archaic, nonsensical mandates from people who lived in a fantasy world. The fact that anybody still adheres to this kind mythological ridiculousness is a testament to the fragility of the human psyche. More accurately, it's an example of our insecurities as a race of people - the need to have answers to the unknown and the blind faith we'll attach to even the most outlandish of explanations as long as they are said to have come down from on high.

                                                              Jews and Muslims don't eat pork not because of health reasons, but because a long, long time ago it was determined that swine was unworthy of human consumption. We probably could never really know the reason behind this decision, but rest assured it is an edict delivered straight from the Almighty Himself. He has a lot of spare time on his hands to micromanage things such as our daily diet.
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                                                              • Sam Odom
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                                                                #32
                                                                jello,

                                                                It is all good.
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                                                                • jellobiafra
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Don't get me started on religion Sam. Nothing in this world frustrates me more.
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                                                                  • CS-Cedrick
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by jellobiafra
                                                                    Don't get me started on religion Sam. Nothing in this world frustrates me more.
                                                                    Make a thread sir, go for it!
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                                                                    • jellobiafra
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by CS-Cedrick
                                                                      Make a thread sir, go for it!
                                                                      I have nothing to say that hasn't been said before. If there is a God and he/she does have a plan: We know nothing. We don't need to know any more than we do. We probably couldn't comprehend it if we were shown. We are unforgivably arrogant to act as if any of us knows any more than another. We are insignificant ants in the grand scheme of the universe. We are not that important, and certainly are not that smart.

                                                                      But I'm just a nonbeliever going straight to hell, so what do I know?
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