Another classic shot against the players from Fanduel

[goduke]

I’m going to continue sharing some of the moves these guys are doing so people know that if they play there you got to be careful and punish them for their shot taking.
Yesterday Cincinnati Bearcats vs Tulane….if you bet Cincinnati pre game a cash out option was not available for the entire game but if you bet Tulane a cash out option was available. Now obviously this tells you the books had a strong lean on Tulane and were willing to let you out of your winning bet but would hold onto your money tight if you had Cincinnati
Simple solution to this is to hammer Tulane live when this happens.
If you think this is happening to you bet a small amount on the other side and see if the cashout option is available for that side. If it is you know the winner and bet accordingly

I think as a forum we should start posting shitty behaviors like this from US books and hold them accountable. As more of the states get the big share of tax revenue they are going to get from the books the more they are going to care less about players. The states will just call us degenerate gamblers and say we are mad about losing while the books take more shots picking and choosing what they offer and making it even harder for the player to win.

Maybe some of you won’t care about this because we are all inherently selfish and only care about ourselves sometimes until something happens directly to you but I ask you this….are you trying to win real money doing this or are you trying to lose 90% of the time and every now and then get a check for 1500 dollars. Hopefully it’s not the latter. Thanks for listening post below if you see any other bullshit from US books that you think we should know. Let’s make this a useable resource

[goduke]

This was the other thread I made about another one of their moves

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3714538-those-use-fan-duel-check-me-please.html

[gauchojake]

Interesting. Please keep us updated. I'm in CA so no legal wagering, but good info.

[jjgold]

I rarely play at them anymore

zero value

[Booya711]

Interesting. Please keep us updated. I'm in CA so no legal wagering, but good info.

No legal wagering in Florida either…it was legal for about 34 seconds then something got it banned again. It is held up in appeals court now. I think it was the horse racing conglomerate that got all pissy in Florida

[goduke]

I rarely play at them anymore

zero value

Im pivoting more of my action towards DK because of this. So far I haven’t seen the same shitty practices from them but I don’t play with them as regularly so I’ll need to evaluate as I do play there more.

[gauchojake]

No legal wagering in Florida either…it was legal for about 34 seconds then something got it banned again. It is held up in appeals court now. I think it was the horse racing conglomerate that got all pissy in Florida

I placed a few legal wagers in FL before they shut it down. Hardrock app was pretty good.

[Booya711]

I placed a few legal wagers in FL before they shut it down. Hardrock app was pretty good.

I had downloaded the app, but was traveling so never got to use it

[Brock Landers]

No legal wagering in Florida either…it was legal for about 34 seconds then something got it banned again. It is held up in appeals court now. I think it was the horse racing conglomerate that got all pissy in Florida

Indian tribes, plus it was illegal based on the contracts with the department of interior.
Desantis got it up his ass hard on that

[lakerboy]

I've seen this but today I took Poland -1.5+205 when they were up 1-0. They never gave me the cashout option. Dk

[stevenash]

Im pivoting more of my action towards DK because of this. So far I haven’t seen the same shitty practices from them but I don’t play with them as regularly so I’ll need to evaluate as I do play there more.

Yes, DK is the US option.

FD pulled a fast one on me.
I'm big on the kicking props, they took down the kicking points on the Mexico City NFL Game one me once they realized they hung soft numbers.

DK had no problem hanging the kicking prop numbers.

[gauchojake]

Let us know of any shenanigans in the big games today.

[stevenash]

Let us know of any shenanigans in the big games today.

No funny business anywhere so far.
I've got Heritage, FD, and DK in game live screens up.
I'm looking for in game live edges, so far none.

[goduke]

I've seen this but today I took Poland -1.5+205 when they were up 1-0. They never gave me the cashout option. Dk

Next time do me a favor and bet a dollar on the +1.5 other side and see if you are given that option.
I’m ok if they don’t offer the cashout on both sides for whatever reason but not just solely one side

[goduke]

Yes, DK is the US option.

FD pulled a fast one on me.
I'm big on the kicking props, they took down the kicking points on the Mexico City NFL Game one me once they realized they hung soft numbers.

DK had no problem hanging the kicking prop numbers.

The amount of money and volume that FD has over the other books right now makes it even more absurd.
They are like the selfish friend who is always asking for favors and then when you ask for one they act like their world is turned upside down

[goduke]

Another thing I was just remembering they did for a couple days last week I had forgotten about was in their NHL screen instead of offering pregame the standard spread+1.5 or -1.5/moneyline/total. They were putting up some games as -.5/+.5, -1/+1 and -1.5/+1.5 but not the same for all.
Now I didn’t dive into it to see the correlation of the outcome of these games based on what they did but I will test that out the next time they do it

[OldBill]

i hate fan duel now they changed thier geo location software to some new thing and no matter what browser i use i cannot get get verified on my desktop pc even made sure in settings my location was set wi fi capable every thing tried to use google chrome as recommended by rep no good cant even get the safari browser

but get this im good to go on draft kings or any other online casino sportsbooks

so i have $153 balance and the i phone i have an old i phone 7 works but it's a small screen and hard to navigate

[Booya711]

Indian tribes, plus it was illegal based on the contracts with the department of interior.
Desantis got it up his ass hard on that

Surprised about the Indian tribes since the largest casino had the app and the book….which is run by the largest tribe in Florida…the Seminoles

[lakerboy]

Another thing I was just remembering they did for a couple days last week I had forgotten about was in their NHL screen instead of offering pregame the standard spread+1.5 or -1.5/moneyline/total. They were putting up some games as -.5/+.5, -1/+1 and -1.5/+1.5 but not the same for all.
Now I didn’t dive into it to see the correlation of the outcome of these games based on what they did but I will test that out the next time they do it

I saw that as well. I don't bother with them anymore except to compare here and there on a game that interested in.

[goduke]

Another interesting thing i found today. After Ohio States lost today FD has updated their National Championship odds with 7 teams omitting Ohio State.
Now one might say well they lost today so they are out. Within the 7 teams they have Oregon at +5000. One might argue that Oregon has a harder time to get into the playoffs than Ohio State
Are they leaving them out because they dont want to take a hit on the big moneyline but will put them in later when everything clears out and they can offer it at a lower price point

Current odds at FD
Georgia -160
Michigan +250
TCU +1200
USC +1200
Alabama +2000
LSU +4000
Oregon +5000

Where is Ohio State. Lets see when they decide to add them into the odds and then match that up with the timing of events around college football. These guys man....

[Natty68]

Fan duel not gonna let you win for long before they limit you to nothing. That's actually not that bad a price on Georgia

[d2bets]

Fan duel not gonna let you win for long before they limit you to nothing. That's actually not that bad a price on Georgia

Yes, they will.

[d2bets]

I never even check cash out live. Only idiots take that. Always a ripoff. Only time to cash out is pregame when it's free because it's the same line.

I disagree that this implies any lean. They're not even that smart.

[goduke]

I never even check cash out live. Only idiots take that. Always a ripoff. Only time to cash out is pregame when it's free because it's the same line.

I disagree that this implies any lean. They're not even that smart.

If you are going to lose a bet and you can cash out for a profit then not sure why you wouldnt. If you take a big underdog and it plays till the end and you can win 2/3s of your money why wouldnt you? It takes discipline and to know when to do it and when not but i disagree that its not a useful tool.

I took Chargers last Sunday night, cashed out after they went up before Mahomes got the ball. Make 2/3s of my winning bet. Would have lost.

And books are smarter than you think, this is a company with alot of interest from many different places to succeed and make money.

[d2bets]

If you are going to lose a bet and you can cash out for a profit then not sure why you wouldnt. If you take a big underdog and it plays till the end and you can win 2/3s of your money why wouldnt you? It takes discipline and to know when to do it and when not but i disagree that its not a useful tool.

I took Chargers last Sunday night, cashed out after they went up before Mahomes got the ball. Make 2/3s of my winning bet. Would have lost.

And books are smarter than you think, this is a company with alot of interest from many different places to succeed and make money.

It's not useful. In literally ever situation you will lose more than if you hedged betting the other side. They know this. Many bettors can't do the math. Sorry to break it to you. It's always a function of the live line and then juiced to death. You haven't done the math, have you?

Further, you almost always can hedge with an alt line, if you really want to.

Just because it saved you a few bucks that game does not make it a wise bet. Next time just bet the other side. Less juice. Offering the cash out at all at a ripoff offer is the shade shit that Fanduel does.

I see it all the time with people cashing out parlays at utter ripoff prices, when they could hedge and make more.

I repeat, the ONLY time to cash out is when it is free because the line is the same and it is no longer favorable. I actually did this the other day. I had Char +5.5-106. It had not changed at FD but I was able to instead bet +6-110 elsewhere.

[goduke]

It's not useful. In literally ever situation you will lose more than if you hedged betting the other side. They know this. Many bettors can't do the math. Sorry to break it to you. It's always a function of the live line and then juiced to death. You haven't done the math, have you?

Further, you almost always can hedge with an alt line, if you really want to.

Just because it saved you a few bucks that game does not make it a wise bet. Next time just bet the other side. Less juice. Offering the cash out at all at a ripoff offer is the shade shit that Fanduel does.

I see it all the time with people cashing out parlays at utter ripoff prices, when they could hedge and make more.

I repeat, the ONLY time to cash out is when it is free because the line is the same and it is no longer favorable. I actually did this the other day. I had Char +5.5-106. It had not changed at FD but I was able to instead bet +6-110 elsewhere.

I'm not disagreeing with some of what you said but I am saying its a tool. You have to know how to use it. I think people dont use it correctly in certain spots

[d2bets]

I'm not disagreeing with some of what you said but I am saying its a tool. You have to know how to use it. I think people dont use it correctly in certain spots

It's a tool for fools. It is never wise to cash out live. Ever. Very simple. The ONLY time to cash out is if it's free. That's it. Never else. Period.

[trytrytry]

never never never cash out live epic bad value Keno like stealing unless the starting QB you need is in your personal ambulance and nobody knows.

however this thread is starting a new term that could be interesting "the fanduel lean"

[goduke]

It's a tool for fools. It is never wise to cash out live. Ever. Very simple. The ONLY time to cash out is if it's free. That's it. Never else. Period.

It’s fine. That’s not really the point of this thread anyway though. We are getting off topic lol

[jjgold]

Suckers cash out live

Biggest sucker tool on any site

[TommieGunshot]

I took Chargers last Sunday night, cashed out after they went up before Mahomes got the ball. Make 2/3s of my winning bet. Would have lost.

Almost certainly would have been more profitable to not bet the Chargers pre-game and then bet the Chiefs in game.

[big joe 1212]

The cash outs that I’ve seen are ripoffs

Ive never taken one

[bhoor]

Books knew most of the outcomes, at least, 75% of them.

[d2bets]

Books knew most of the outcomes, at least, 75% of them.

[bhoor]

You laugh whatever you want. Again, I think books knew most of the outcomes, at least, in the spread side.