All you INDY backers should thanks Rex

onlooker · 02-04-07, 10:32 PM

Well they were lucky to get this far. With the smoke and mirrors they have at QB.

Their defense is called apon to much, along with their special teams. It started fast for them, but you cant rely on that.

Sam Odom · 02-04-07, 10:33 PM

The gm was a blow out forget the score and Rex

Razz · 02-04-07, 10:36 PM

The Bears have a lot more holes than just QB. Getting Harris and Brown healthy are a good start, but this team isn't equipped to compete with any of the AFC powers right now.

Sam Odom · 02-04-07, 10:37 PM

IMHO -- I believe Razz is correct, any AFC playoff team this yr could beat da Bears

EBone · 02-04-07, 10:46 PM

I think the Bears should consider themselves lucky to have scored 17 points tonight. Certainly, the rain was a factor on both sides but I just could not believe how Grossman just could not hold onto the ball. It was like he forgot basic football at times. No team is going to win a football game (covering is a different story) by being totally dominated in the time of possession like they were. That was unreal.

E

Mudcat · 02-04-07, 10:56 PM

All you INDY backers should thanks Rex

Thanks Rex.

It's so true though. I almost felt more comfortable when the Chicago offense had the ball than Indy. When Indy had the ball there was always the chance for some disaster resulting in a Chicago score. I didn't feel threatened at all when Rex had the ball.

BuddyBear · 02-04-07, 10:59 PM

You see the difference between a man and a boy in Manning and Grossman. If the Bears had anything that resembled a consistent QB they may have won. Indy gave them way too many chances to cover the number or win outright. This was a total annihilation just like most AFC/NFC matchups this year.

mad · 02-04-07, 11:00 PM

Rex is a homo.

slacker00 · 02-04-07, 11:21 PM

Don't write off Rex, guys. I was down on him for this game, but the kid might still have a future in the NFL. He needs a top notch QB coach in his ear and get a lot of reps. I question his heart, but it's tough to know. I don't think he's been coached up quite right for the NFL level yet. I'm not sure if that problem will be fixed in Chicago or not. I see a lot of talent with the kid. It just might take a couple years before he really can come up big in a game like this.

bigboydan · 02-04-07, 11:33 PM

Originally posted by onlòóker

Well they were lucky to get this far. With the smoke and mirrors they have at QB.

I would agree with that statement looker.

Lovy just was so dead set against changing QB's, and didn't see the big picture in regards to the "smoke and mirrors". He knew how bad Rex was playing tonight, and still refused to change. Hell, even the 72 Dolphins benched Bob Greasie, and put in Earl Morrall in the 2nd half. I think we all know what happen.

WileOut · 02-04-07, 11:41 PM

I disagree that it was all on Rex. Yeah he made some stupid plays but who calls bombs to be thrown like every 3rd play in pouring down rain? Whoever was calling the plays deserves as much or more of the blame.

I had the colts/under 6pt teaser.

Razz · 02-04-07, 11:46 PM

Originally posted by bigboydan

Hell, even the 72 Dolphins benched Bob Greasie, and put in Earl Morrall in the 2nd half. I think we all know what happen.

Evidently you don't. Bob Griese broke his leg in Week 5, and missed the rest of the year until the Super Bowl, where he played the entire game and led the Dolphins to a 14-7 win.

bigboydan · 02-04-07, 11:52 PM

It was basically the 2nd half of the season when he had to bench him due to the broken leg. Back then though it was only like a 14 game schedule too though.

BuddyBear · 02-04-07, 11:54 PM

lot of NFL history buffs here...

slacker00 · 02-05-07, 12:06 AM

I'm not convinced that Griese or Orton would have done any better than Rex today. Rex still gives this team the best chance to win. He needs to be coached up a little. I don't know where to look in the organization, if it's the OC or QB coach or what. But something needs to happen to help Rex get to the next level. It's a team game from coaching to playing and the QB problems for the bears are not all on Rex.

Seattle Slew · 02-05-07, 12:27 AM

Grossman sucks. He sucked in the Seattle game and he sucked in the NO game. He got lucky in the latter because of some bad plays by NO and that lucky TD grab on an underthrown ball toward the end zone.

That said, Brian Griese isn't exactly a good QB either. He did nothing in Denver in several seasons, failed badly in Miami, and had a few good games last season for Tampa before getting hurt. Don't think he would have made any difference, although I'd try him out next season because Grossman is so bad.

Originally posted by slacker00

I'm not convinced that Griese or Orton would have done any better than Rex today. Rex still gives this team the best chance to win. He needs to be coached up a little. I don't know where to look in the organization, if it's the OC or QB coach or what. But something needs to happen to help Rex get to the next level. It's a team game from coaching to playing and the QB problems for the bears are not all on Rex.

Dark Horse · 02-05-07, 12:55 AM

Grossman can't play from behind. Everybody knew that. That's when he throws his picks. Can't blame the guy for losing a bet.

I feel worse for bettors on the over (47 or 48), because there was no reason not to kick a FG at the end, and instead turn it over on 4th down. Not sure if it was fear (of giving up a 15 pt lead with less than 2 minutes left?) or not rubbing it in (coaches are friends), but that's not the way to end a season or proclaim a championship.

Seattle Slew · 02-05-07, 01:26 AM

I was surprised at that play as well since it only would have been a 32-yard FG. I think he did it because the Bears had no timeouts left, and he felt better about leaving them at 15 with no timeouts down 12, as opposed to up 15 and kicking off where maybe they break one for a TD and then get an onsides kick try. Or a rare blocked FG and return.

Originally posted by Dark Horse

I feel worse for bettors on the over (47 or 48), because there was no reason not to kick a FG at the end, and instead turn it over on 4th down. Not sure if it was fear (of giving up a 15 pt lead with less than 2 minutes left?) or not rubbing it in (coaches are friends), but that's not the way to end a season or proclaim a championship.

Willie Bee · 02-05-07, 07:49 AM

I thought Dungy's decision to run it on 4th-down instead of the field goal was the best decision and the perfect way to play it. Dungy has no obligation to think about coaching the game in the best manner to satisfy totals bettors.

Sam Odom · 02-05-07, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by Willie Bee

Dungy has no obligation to think about coaching the game in the best manner to satisfy totals bettors.

Are you kidding! Tony had the Under

EBone · 02-05-07, 08:33 AM

My opinion on Grossman is that he was awful in the Super Bowl but he might be more mentally tough than most. I remember when Spurrier picked him over QB Dean or maybe QB Johnson (can't remember for sure) in Florida when Grossman was a freshman. Spurrier rode Grossman his entire time while at Florida. I don't think you can mentally break down Grossman. Now, if he's not a good enough talent for the NFL, then so be it.

The decision making can be rectified but my concern is that you have to hold on to the football. I think I counted 6-7 mishandles by Grossman alone in that game and they didn't even run that many plays!!!!!!!! You have to be able to take a friggin snap in a 60 degree rain shower. Period.

E

onlooker · 02-05-07, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by Willie Bee

I thought Dungy's decision to run it on 4th-down instead of the field goal was the best decision and the perfect way to play it. Dungy has no obligation to think about coaching the game in the best manner to satisfy totals bettors.

So you did end up watching the game. I knew you couldnt stay away from it yesterday.

nosuzieno · 02-05-07, 12:13 PM

I knew if given the chance, Tony D would in no way run up the score against his buddie and the failure to attempt field goal in no way surprised me...As far as Rex goes (22-28), picks were as much Off Coord Turner's fault as they were his. Same goes with 2 and one debacle where according to turner post-game, plan was to go for long ball anytime they had 2nd and short... Bears could have thrown to Mush all day long underneath.

Bottom line: Chicago failed to execute in every area including, all-in-all, on special teams with fumble on squib and Indy starting from 30+ yard line everytime they had the ball...

AFC continues to dominate (9-2 last 11) and will again next year.

Willie Bee · 02-05-07, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by onlòóker

So you did end up watching the game. I knew you couldnt stay away from it yesterday.

Got home from the movie and dinner with about 12 minutes left in the game, proceeded to sneak back into my office and pretended to be working on my college hoops article while watching the end of the game

BigDog · 02-05-07, 01:56 PM

the bears defense has really not been the same lately....A great defense will win vs a great offense more times than not but the bottom line is this,the Bears defense right now is average @ best

slacker00 · 02-05-07, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by BigDog

the bears defense has really not been the same lately....A great defense will win vs a great offense more times than not but the bottom line is this,the Bears defense right now is average @ best

Give the Bears D some credit. They just played the best two offenses in the NFL, not to mention the two best QBs. Brees & Manning will make any Defense look average. Do you think any less about the Patriots D, or the Ravens D? If you don't think any of these defenses are the best the NFL has to offer, I'm not sure who you do like.

BigDog · 02-05-07, 07:11 PM

slacker00,I would take the Ravens and Pats D in a second over the Bears.....The Bears were damn lucky this game was played in a pour down rain or the Colts wouldve beat them by 35 pts.....That kickoff return to start the game was enough momentum to keep it interesting for a lttle while but the Colts were in COMPLETE control of this game as soon as that kickoff return was complete.....I bet on the Colts and while I can honestly say that I was never worried about the Colts losing I just kept waiting for the blowout because by the end of the 3rd qtr the Bears were out of the game....Grossman was a joke and while their defense wasn't a joke it was pretty close to it