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  • jackpot269
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-24-07
    • 12842

    #36
    Without thinking about changing anything about to way you pick games /teams/ lines or find + ev. Think about this part of gambling. I bet maybe 75% less than I did 5 years ago for many reasons. That being said hear is something that has worked for me over that time. Before I started betting less most weeks were a roller coaster Id be up $750 then down $350 then the next day would be similar ,my week depended on if I was up or down after Monday, payday was Tuesday. What I try to do Now, is once I get down $350 Im done that week, but I also do it on the winning side, If I get up $500 I'm done that week! Those are hard stops when I get up over $350 I start thinking about quitting for the week. After the 2015 bowl season I looked back at the football season betting sheets for that year, it was the worst id ever had after going back thru ever week I noticed if I had stop time that I got up around $300 it would have been a great year, for me its hard to stop when your on a roll but it pays!! When Im down now over a 3 or 4 week span its because I didn't follow my plan!! It May not help or work for anyone else but it helps me a lot!! I also do this at the tables now.
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #37
      Originally posted by jackpot269
      Without thinking about changing anything about to way you pick games /teams/ lines or find + ev. Think about this part of gambling. I bet maybe 75% less than I did 5 years ago for many reasons. That being said hear is something that has work for me over that time. Before I started betting less most weeks were a roller coaster Id be up $750 then down $350 the next day would be similar ,my week depended on if I was up or down after Monday, payday was Tuesday. What I try to do Now is once I get down $350 Im done that week, but I also do it on the winning side, If I get up $500 I'm done that week! Those are hard stops when I get up over $350 I start thinking about quitting for the week. After the 2015 bowl season I looked back at the football season betting sheets for that year, it was the worst id ever had after going back thru ever week I noticed if I had stop ever week that I got up around $300 it would have been a great year for me its hard to stop when your on a roll but it pays!! When Im down now over a 3 or 4 week span its because I didn't follow my plan!! It May not help or work for anyone else but it helps me a lot!! I also do this at the tables now.
      Great strategy

      Spot betting seems to have a decent return too
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      • clockwise1965
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 10-01-13
        • 6753

        #38
        Originally posted by pilebuck13
        How many people in here can honestly grind out any season of major sport and bet 2 percent of roll never lay juice and consistently beat the closer…… lol like no one really in here. But yet this is the advice they give everyone damn well knowing they probably have 0 idea of value and will never beat the numbers…. Nor do they have the time to beat the number…..
        Not me. Ive lost 12 in a row on 2 separate occasions.
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        • stevenash
          Moderator
          • 01-17-11
          • 65603

          #39
          Originally posted by clockwise1965
          Not me. Ive lost 12 in a row on 2 separate occasions.
          I've lost 12 straight on several occasions, and 17 straight once.
          After the 12th win my local even starting to tail me.
          True story, how flattering is that when the book tails the customer.
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          • pilebuck13
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 05-15-15
            • 17918

            #40
            Originally posted by jackpot269
            Without thinking about changing anything about to way you pick games /teams/ lines or find + ev. Think about this part of gambling. I bet maybe 75% less than I did 5 years ago for many reasons. That being said hear is something that has worked for me over that time. Before I started betting less most weeks were a roller coaster Id be up $750 then down $350 then the next day would be similar ,my week depended on if I was up or down after Monday, payday was Tuesday. What I try to do Now, is once I get down $350 Im done that week, but I also do it on the winning side, If I get up $500 I'm done that week! Those are hard stops when I get up over $350 I start thinking about quitting for the week. After the 2015 bowl season I looked back at the football season betting sheets for that year, it was the worst id ever had after going back thru ever week I noticed if I had stop time that I got up around $300 it would have been a great year, for me its hard to stop when your on a roll but it pays!! When Im down now over a 3 or 4 week span its because I didn't follow my plan!! It May not help or work for anyone else but it helps me a lot!! I also do this at the tables now.
            Yes discipline obviously I’m up 4K on the week. Cashing out is half the battle when you bet offshore. It’s easy to get greedy and always want more. Like today card is not the best don’t see much value now when you know you should walk the card…. But you don’t that’s when you need to do some soul searching.
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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388179

              #41
              To make that a year it’s probably +2500
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              • Hu$tle
                SBR MVP
                • 03-31-15
                • 1365

                #42
                heavy faves
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                • stevenash
                  Moderator
                  • 01-17-11
                  • 65603

                  #43
                  Originally posted by jjgold
                  To make that a year it’s probably +2500
                  I don't feel like playing with SQL right now I'd say yeah, that's about right, 20:1 or so.

                  I don't bet big, but I scalped the Super Bowl, you know, you read my posts.
                  That was a 4.5 point middle, if you're lucky you get that kind of opportunity maybe, what? six times a season, where you can cash the favorite on the money line and cash on the dog as well.
                  And then in the summer you gotta get hot with a string of +140 - + 160 baseball dogs too.

                  Yeah, it can be done, it's a serious grind and you had best be on top of your game.

                  To the poster above me, are you serious with the heavy faves?
                  Do you not remember what happened last April at the start of the MLB season.

                  Nine out ten -200 or better favorites all got beat outright.
                  It was a blood bath for every chalk bettor alive.
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                  • pilebuck13
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 05-15-15
                    • 17918

                    #44
                    Not possible with heavy faves be better of blindly betting dogs
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                    • mcaulay777
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-13-10
                      • 1769

                      #45
                      With no limits by books i think i could do it. Baseball, College Football and Wnba and a little premier league. I seem to do better on the oddball sports. That is why i hated to see the AAFL AND The Xfl go when the Xfl shutdown i think i hit every game but one!
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                      • mcaulay777
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-13-10
                        • 1769

                        #46
                        Yes cashing out too
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                        • pilebuck13
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 05-15-15
                          • 17918

                          #47
                          Originally posted by stevenash
                          I don't feel like playing with SQL right now I'd say yeah, that's about right, 20:1 or so.

                          I don't bet big, but I scalped the Super Bowl, you know, you read my posts.
                          That was a 4.5 point middle, if you're lucky you get that kind of opportunity maybe, what? six times a season, where you can cash the favorite on the money line and cash on the dog as well.
                          And then in the summer you gotta get hot with a string of +140 - + 160 baseball dogs too.

                          Yeah, it can be done, it's a serious grind and you had best be on top of your game.

                          To the poster above me, are you serious with the heavy faves?
                          Do you not remember what happened last April at the start of the MLB season.

                          Nine out ten -200 or better favorites all got beat outright.
                          It was a blood bath for every chalk bettor alive.
                          Nash hard to take you serious after you defended Kevin cash decision of pulling snell game 6.
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                          • TheMoneyShot
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 02-14-07
                            • 28672

                            #48
                            In a way (the more I think of it) 16k isn't even worth your time. You still have to study and align your wagers. You still have to do some rational thinking. To blindly wager dogs.... I still think you could run into some trouble.

                            My feeling is.... everyone's goal is different... it's not even worth my time to do all the research for 16k a year.

                            Take about 8k for a bankroll..... (don't be afraid to lose any of it). Wager wisely.... sound wagers... and roll with it.

                            1. When you "have to win" everyone always loses.

                            2. When you tell yourself "I need to win" everyone loses....

                            I always succeed when I never need the money. Could be all in my head.... but it's the truth.

                            Again.... take an 8k bankroll..... don't be afraid to lose it.... and run your system. If you lose it.... just quit gambling for awhile... and wait for your favorite sport to return from the off-season.
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                            • pilebuck13
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 05-15-15
                              • 17918

                              #49
                              Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                              In a way (the more I think of it) 16k isn't even worth your time. You still have to study and align your wagers. You still have to do some rational thinking. To blindly wager dogs.... I still think you could run into some trouble.

                              My feeling is.... everyone's goal is different... it's not even worth my time to do all the research for 16k a year.

                              Take about 8k for a bankroll..... (don't be afraid to lose any of it). Wager wisely.... sound wagers... and roll with it.

                              1. When you "have to win" everyone always loses.

                              2. When you tell yourself "I need to win" everyone loses....

                              I always succeed when I never need the money. Could be all in my head.... but it's the truth.

                              Again.... take an 8k bankroll..... don't be afraid to lose it.... and run your system. If you lose it.... just quit gambling for awhile... and wait for your favorite sport to return from the off-season.
                              Definitely not worth my time either yet most spend countless hours to never clear that amount yearly. Once you hit 6 figures in a account hard to grind out small… there is definitely a psychological aspect to this….
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                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388179

                                #50
                                You gotta get great numbers meaning really low juice and off market lines most of the time
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                                • stevenash
                                  Moderator
                                  • 01-17-11
                                  • 65603

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by pilebuck13
                                  Nash hard to take you serious after you defended Kevin cash decision of pulling snell game 6.
                                  I'm still taking a beating on that one Bucker.

                                  It's all good.

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                                  • konck
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 10-17-06
                                    • 12554

                                    #52
                                    Chasing a loser NEVER works
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                                    • str
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 01-12-09
                                      • 11776

                                      #53
                                      It can be done and to a larger profit margin but... the time, effort and sacrifices of events, relationships, etc. you must make to do it correctly and be successful are not worth it for the majority of people.

                                      You can do it with games as well as with the horses. However, you better know what you are doing. Best to learn from someone that has done it and will share what is important so your time is spent wisely.

                                      But don't break it down to an hourly wage example though or you will be sorely disappointed.
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                                      • stevenash
                                        Moderator
                                        • 01-17-11
                                        • 65603

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by konck
                                        Chasing a loser NEVER works
                                        Right?
                                        That's the first thing any newbie should be taught.
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                                        • pilebuck13
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 05-15-15
                                          • 17918

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by stevenash
                                          Right?
                                          That's the first thing any newbie should be taught.
                                          100 percent correct This whole thread was simply discussion any one who chases a loss is impossible to be a disciplined bettor and if your not disciplined your done period.
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                                          • pilebuck13
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 05-15-15
                                            • 17918

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by stevenash
                                            I'm still taking a beating on that one Bucker.

                                            It's all good.

                                            Lol I know I’m just razzing yah dodgers World Series? Lol
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                                            • stevenash
                                              Moderator
                                              • 01-17-11
                                              • 65603

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by pilebuck13
                                              Lol I know I’m just razzing yah dodgers World Series? Lol
                                              I know that.

                                              I'm old school meets analytics geek nerd.
                                              I am a big fan of Bill James and Billy "Money Ball" Beane since day one.
                                              But the old school in me says it's OK to throw out the percentages book and let the field manager ride his hunch and the hot hand if the percentages say otherwise.

                                              You were there in the thread aa it was happening, you know I endorsed that move as he was making it, no backpedaling here, I knew what Cash was doing, but man, did that ever blow up!

                                              I had fun jabbing myself too afterwards.
                                              You dish it out, you gotta roll with it when it fails is what I say.
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                                              • CanuckG
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 12-23-10
                                                • 21978

                                                #58
                                                Just lost 14 straight roulette spins betting black. Yes I can clear 16k in losses in the casino.
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                                                • ChuckyTheGoat
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 04-04-11
                                                  • 37433

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by pilebuck13
                                                  Definitely not worth my time either yet most spend countless hours to never clear that amount yearly. Once you hit 6 figures in a account hard to grind out small… there is definitely a psychological aspect to this….
                                                  Buck, I think you hit on it. Is it worth YOUR TIME?

                                                  10k into 26k. Sounds great. What do you have to do to prep for that?

                                                  First off, you need 2 or 3 sports that you know like the back of your hand. Markets that you know better than the oddsmaker.

                                                  And now the work starts. You have to be ready to strike early, mid-week, and late. That's where the problem is, too much time-commitment.
                                                  Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                  • eberetta1
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 03-27-09
                                                    • 1157

                                                    #60
                                                    Could you live on the 16k a year you win betting, or would you still need to work the day job. If it isn't enough to pay living expenses, it isn't worth the risk.
                                                    I have lost 8 roulette spins in a row. Always wondered what the 9th spin would have been.
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                                                    • jjgold
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                      • 388179

                                                      #61
                                                      16,000 is below poverty level just so you will know that
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                                                      • ChuckyTheGoat
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 04-04-11
                                                        • 37433

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                                        16,000 is below poverty level just so you will know that
                                                        Goldy, you're missing the point.

                                                        If that's ALL you did...sure, it's not a lot of $$.

                                                        What if you could turn it over daily on 20 minutes of work? Why not?
                                                        Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                        • pilebuck13
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 05-15-15
                                                          • 17918

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by stevenash
                                                          I know that.

                                                          I'm old school meets analytics geek nerd.
                                                          I am a big fan of Bill James and Billy "Money Ball" Beane since day one.
                                                          But the old school in me says it's OK to throw out the percentages book and let the field manager ride his hunch and the hot hand if the percentages say otherwise.

                                                          You were there in the thread aa it was happening, you know I endorsed that move as he was making it, no backpedaling here, I knew what Cash was doing, but man, did that ever blow up!

                                                          I had fun jabbing myself too afterwards.
                                                          You dish it out, you gotta roll with it when it fails is what I say.
                                                          Hopefully this Covid bull shit will be over soon and sports can return to normal. I’m excited for a normal baseball season.
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